Hebi Sasuke VS 3T Kakashi

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Distance: 10 Meters
 

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Sasuke destroys him.
 

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Sasuke speedblitzes him just like he did Naruto and Deidara
 

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Loool. Is this Shippuden 3 tomoe Kakashi? Part 1 3 tome Kakashi already showed to be faster and with better reflexes than Hebi Sasuke, seeing as he could react and counter every fast ninjutsu and bushinjutsu by Itachi with his own while Hebi Sasuke was overwhelmed by Itachi's jutsu execution.

Shippuden 3 tomoe Kakashi is far faster than Hebi Sasuke and a lot better in CQC, he would completely pressure and school him if not speedblitz. Kakashi counterblitzed Sharingan and Rinnegan equipped V2 Bijuu landing Raikiri on them and keeping pace with 6th Gate Gai, outspeeded Obito who was physically as fast as no Shunshin KCM Naruto that is as fast as V1 Ei, was called fast by Obito and managed to intecept and stop the truly Chidori of Sasuke schooling them him in taijutsu (and don't tell that Sasuke wasn't in shape because Karin healed him a minute before). Kakashi is also a lot smarter and more versatile, he can counter and overcome anything Sasuke tries to throw at him. 3 tome Kakashi wins mid diff, MS Kakashi wins low diff with Kamui GG.
 

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Have to go with Sasuke since he has manda on top of everything else.
 

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Kakashi wins mid diff at worse, Selan already explained why.
 

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Have to go with Sasuke since he has manda on top of everything else.

Manda is dealt with Sharingan genjutsu, or his head is pierced with Raikiri, or he is bisected with Raiden, or he is shocked with a Suiryodan + Raiju Hashiri no jutsu combo. He is powerful but too slow to be a problem for Kakashi, even Tsunade could intercept him and Kakashi is much, much, much faster than her and has Sharingan precognition and clones too. Also 3 tomoe Kakashi was fighting holding his own well against real Bijuu... Manda is really screwed. And so is Sasuke.
 

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Was it Taka or Hebi that got fodderized by Bee, who is most definitely not that much better than 3T Kakashi.
Yeah, Sasuke isn't winning. You specifically out Hebi Sasuke, which is a specific timeframe that Sasuke was a pretty bad shinobi in.
This could be war-arc Kakashi, just restricted to 3T. Either way Sasuke gets blitzed.
 

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Kalashi mid diff.

He was keeping up with Itachi in Taijutsu fight, and Itachi completely overwhelmed Hebi Sasuke in Taijutsu. Not to mention he can open 1 gate, increasing his physical capabilities 10x times fold. In no world Sasuke is blitzing Kakashi nor fighting him on par in CQC. Ninjutsu goes for Kakashi as well. He combines his intellect with Raiton Bunshin where they fooled Itachi and Pain; so Sasuke is falling a prey for that. Genjutsu is non-factor, since Kakashi broke that of Obito's. Sasuke gets utterly stomped.​
 

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Sasuke takes this with ease. Hebi Sasuke has shown speed superior if not = to Kakashi add cm and cm2 Sasuke would clearly have the advantage in cqc. He has superior ration skillz which would also be a big factor plus he has oral rebirth and raition is useless against Sasuke. L0l @ him stabbing Manda in the head and killing it Manda is far to fast and huge to get caught by a ration head plus Kakashi will still have to fight off a cm2 Sasuke.

Sharingan genjutsu get's countered via Sharingan genjutsu. Sasuke and Itachi already showed that visual genjutsu on top of visual genjutsu max each other out.
 

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Kakashi couldn't overwhelm a blind ms sasuke in cqc I don't see how he can overwhelm cm2 sasuke. In addition to his kenjutsu, sasuke has usage of to give him the upper hand. Genjutsu won't be a factor in this battle. Sasuke is shown pushing itachi back with his fire style with just so he would have the advantage in ninjutsu. Sasuke wins mid-high diff.
 

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Kalashi mid diff.

He was keeping up with Itachi in Taijutsu fight, and Itachi completely overwhelmed Hebi Sasuke in Taijutsu. Not to mention he can open 1 gate, increasing his physical capabilities 10x times fold. In no world Sasuke is blitzing Kakashi nor fighting him on par in CQC. Ninjutsu goes for Kakashi as well. He combines his intellect with Raiton Bunshin where they fooled Itachi and Pain; so Sasuke is falling a prey for that. Genjutsu is non-factor, since Kakashi broke that of Obito's. Sasuke gets utterly stomped.​

So...

1. Events occuring in Genjutsu realm are always possible in the first realm.

2. Sasuke was using Curse Mark when fighting with Itachi in terms of CQC.

3. Hachimon's first gate enhances your strength much more than Senjutsu Curse Mark.

4. Kakashi was fighting Itachi alone all the time.

5. Itachi in his third is as powerful as in his full strength.

6. Base Naruto from the start of Part II managed to surprise Itachi with a Rasengan while B and KCM Naruto didn't even land a hit on 2 vs. 1.

7. Itachi's intent was to kill these people.

If you can convince me on even 4 points, I'll agree with you.​
 

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Was it Taka or Hebi that got fodderized by Bee, who is most definitely not that much better than 3T Kakashi.
Yeah, Sasuke isn't winning. You specifically out Hebi Sasuke, which is a specific timeframe that Sasuke was a pretty bad shinobi in.
This could be war-arc Kakashi, just restricted to 3T. Either way Sasuke gets blitzed.

Kalashi mid diff.

He was keeping up with Itachi in Taijutsu fight, and Itachi completely overwhelmed Hebi Sasuke in Taijutsu. Not to mention he can open 1 gate, increasing his physical capabilities 10x times fold. In no world Sasuke is blitzing Kakashi nor fighting him on par in CQC. Ninjutsu goes for Kakashi as well. He combines his intellect with Raiton Bunshin where they fooled Itachi and Pain; so Sasuke is falling a prey for that. Genjutsu is non-factor, since Kakashi broke that of Obito's. Sasuke gets utterly stomped.​

Yeah, I agree with this and also there are my other points. And I lol at Kakashi not being able to stomp Sasuke in CQC, because he literally intercepted his point blank Chidori appearing from nothing, stopped it, then dodged his counterattack and kicked away his ass. Both didn't have Sharingan (Sasuke was disactivated and Kakashi has the eye covered by the headband) in that episode, and Sasuke wasn't having any eyesight problem and had been healed by Karin. It's also worth remembering that Kakashi had no killing intent (like he stated multiple times) until the time after Naruto's arrive, when he saw that Sasuke was completely out any possible talk no jutsu.
 

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Yeah, I agree with this and also there are my other points. And I lol at Kakashi not being able to stomp Sasuke in CQC, because he literally intercepted his point blank Chidori appearing from nothing, stopped it, then dodged his counterattack and kicked away his ass. Both didn't have Sharingan (Sasuke was disactivated and Kakashi has the eye covered by the headband) in that episode, and Sasuke wasn't having any eyesight problem and had been healed by Karin. It's also worth remembering that Kakashi had no killing intent (like he stated multiple times) until the time after Naruto's arrive, when he saw that Sasuke was completely out any possible talk no jutsu.
Counter my post i really need to see what your bringing to the table.
 

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Sasuke smacks him low-med diff
 

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Sasuke doesn't lolblitz, but he wins mid diff. w/ better stamina, supplementary jutsu & elemental skill.

and CS2 mercs kakashi in CQC
 

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So...

1. Events occuring in Genjutsu realm are always possible in the first realm.

2. Sasuke was using Curse Mark when fighting with Itachi in terms of CQC.

3. Hachimon's first gate enhances your strength much more than Senjutsu Curse Mark.

4. Kakashi was fighting Itachi alone all the time.

5. Itachi in his third is as powerful as in his full strength.

6. Base Naruto from the start of Part II managed to surprise Itachi with a Rasengan while B and KCM Naruto didn't even land a hit on 2 vs. 1.

7. Itachi's intent was to kill these people.

If you can convince me on even 4 points, I'll agree with you.​

2. If Sasuke was using CM1 and got overwhelmed by Itachi in CQC, then it would be a good assumption that they would be equal in CQC if he was in CM2.

3. 1st gate and CM1 are not stronger than the other.

4. Naruto was pretty irrelevant considering how he wasn't with Kakashi at the time. "But Itachi still had to look out for," Doesn't matter.

5. He had 20% chakra. Everything else was the same. His Taijutsu skills, his smarts and analytical skills. He didn't lose out on Ninjutsu.

6. When did Bee and Naruto fight Itachi 2v1? As far as I know, Nagato was with him. Also, the ten seconds of fighting they did, and didn't land a hit on him, doesn't really count.

7. Who specifically is he trying to kill?
 
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