[VS] Hebi Sasuke Vs 3 Tailes Naruto

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Did this guy just say that KN4's Bijuu Dama is stronger than Kirin? Bruh. No. Even if we were to compare using size alone, Uchiha Hideout Mountain>>Rashomon Gates in size.

Just like your shitty claim nagatos ct being mountain ranges to every set of mountains in nv.

 

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How is this even a fair comparison?

Kirin is a more concentrated blast that converges with the ground in a mere instant whereas KN4 Naruto's Bijuudama was concentrated chakra that was then released outward and was constantly being applied to the environment.

 

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Just like your shitty claim nagatos ct being mountain ranges to every set of mountains in nv.

What the hell is this moron even talking about?

 

[Waltz]

The presumed intention that he is replying to me with OT material. I did not think twice about any of his posts revolving around v2 KN4 Naruto because I assumed his posts were on-topic. Furthermore, by your and apparently his logic, Oro's statement is debunked and thus Kishi was wrong merely because Naruto could turn KN8 and vaporise Sasuke with a punch. Therefor Kishi stating Sasuke>Naruto was fallacious. But again, just like Draegod, your ignorance of context is the reason you are lead to such erroneous conclusions about Kishi's statement, it's not kishi's statement itself that is misleading. It is clear to an 8 year old that when Kishi is referencing Naruto's jinchuriki powers he's talking about the ones he was utilising at the time, then when Naruto turns v2 the sensation turns 'quite different' and the previous statement that Sasuke>Naruto no longer applies. It's like somebody fighting Ay for the first time while Ay is in Base, and they say "Tsunade shits on you fam." Then Ay turns v1, that statement no longer applies, it's a new game from thereon out. It doesn't mean Tsunade can't win, it just means the previous statement is no longer relevant. When I said Sasuke "was without a doubt stronger" it was obviously in reference to that particular Naruto, and assuming I meant KN8 Naruto is only your failed assumption.

@ Bold: Alright.

@ Red: Here you begin to fail. According to my logic Orochimaru made an exaggeration on Sasuke's abilities to say that Naruto had ways more to be on par with him strength wise because Orochimaru did not know the full extent of Naruto's abilities at the very moment he issued his statement which you tried to alter. That does not attempt in anyway to debunk the statement, it simply label's it an exaggeration. Since I know your skull is thick I'll let you know something. I don't give a fuck how much you want to try to label it as being "Kishimoto's words" none of that is going to change the fact that the statement at that time was an exaggeration; by definition, a statement that represents something as better or worse than it really is because again as you fail to realize Naruto did not have "Ways" to go in order to be at Sasuke's level because the only thing Sasuke truly had above him was Genjutsu and the Blue is irrelevant because is already agreed that Sasuke would win (this thread) and was obviously the stronger of the two at the time. Bruh, the only failure that occurred was you failing to realize that Dreagod was simply stating that Orochimaru was making an exaggeration; I literally had to come to this thread and waste posts to bring that to the attention of someone of your caliber who should be reasonable and unbaised. ​

So I'm guessing you believe Manda cannot constrict his opponent?

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Yes Apex because Manda can wrap his enormous body around 4T Naruto. ​

I'm guessing you believe Manda's tail whip does not inflict massive damage

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There was a reason why i said bite/swallow Apex. If It's not going to do shit to the TBV2 Cloak there's no need to mention it and Naruto is faster. ​

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Sasuke fires the Katon a couple of seconds after;

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The sky becomes FILLED with the clouds just a few seconds after the Katon reaches the sky

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Yes Apex, The sky was very clear indeed and the intense heat from Amaterasu which could be seen for miles contributed nothing at all to warming up the atmosphere and the very heat from Amatearsu did not make it rain again after their battle. ​

So all in all it'll take Sasuke like 5-10 seconds of prep, something Manda can easily buy time for.

"Sasuke takes 5-10 seconds to prep Kirin" #Dead. I hope that you are indeed attempting to be funny. ​

Naruto can create clones in KN4 now? Just another one of Waltz's fan-fics, not surprised. That's not a clone, that's just chakra in the form of the Kyuubi like a chakra arm in the form of his hand.

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Clone: a person or thing that appears to be an exact copy of another person or thing.

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. Nowhere near the power his actual strike is, obviously.

Proof and proof against Naruto Moderating his own striking power? :ilu:​

. Manda survives the epicentre of a 10km large explosion for a few moments before he got teleported away. His body didn't disintegrate, even though the heat of a much smaller bomb would be in the ~100,000,000 degrees Celsius range.

...Tre mother fucking Mercer.

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Sasuke states that he was also hit with the blast so Sasuke's skin can tank over 100million degree's Celsius of Heat? The core of the sun is roughly 15,000,000 degrees Celsius are you saying that Manda, a gigantic Snake can live comfortably in the center of the sun? You've made my night, friend.
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First of all, this is all somehow assuming Naruto will take the long ass time needed to prep his TBB in v2 against an attack he doesn't even expect. LMFAO. Good one bro, bestest logic. Second of all, why the fuk are you calculating their power capacity via their sizes? That makes no sense at all. You'd ned to calculate the pulverisation that the Kirin inflicted. KN4 TBB is low TOWN level ~15 kilotons whereas Kirin is calced at low CITY level aka 9.4 MEGATONS. No, don't take those energies literally, but does that change the fact that Kirin is LOGICALLY much stronger? Fuk no. I don't care if you want to amp KN4 by 100, it's still much, much smaller than Kirin's yield. Hilarious how you just tried to tell me KN4 TBB>Kirin because the substance of Rashomon>substance of bricks. Smh, so we established KN4 Naruto won't know anything is coming to counter, we established he can't counter for the simple fact his attack is much weaker, and while we're at it let's also establish that the process of swallowing TBB and regurgitating it won't work in time versus an attack which happens instantly, unless you give me reason to believe Naruto can react to Kirin and TBB is used intentionally after being swallowed.

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] panels which has a time lapse of under 2 minutes for Naruto to create and blast a Bijuu Dama. How long did it take Sasuke to prep Kirin in those 8+ panels and how much longer would it take him to prep it without the tremendous help of Amatearsu? Bro, there is no way that Sasuke's Katon's are gathering rain clouds on such a clear day, heavy rain and a storm in under 2 minutes. Sasuke at that time did not know what the function of a Bijuu-Dama was and there's nothing in his defense besides Boss summon's that could potentially defend against such a blast. If Naruto gets the right opportunity he could kill Sasuke with such an attack.

@Bold: This is why you make absolutely no sense:

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Whats this? Earth is weak against lightening? OMG look how easily Chidori demolishes the wall. It must be 9.4 Megatons!

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Whats this? Rasengan doesn't even do as much damage to Kabuto as Chidori did to that wall! 15 Kilotons!

Therefore Chidori > Rasengan. Dumb! Haha and yes Apex, the substance and sturdiness of a material determines ALOT about the inflict it can take from an attack especially in the world of Naruto where there are elemental attacks and certain elements have an abnormal superiority over other elements or substances. I never stated 4T Naruto's Biju Dama is stronger than Kirin but that it should at the very least cancel it out.@ Red: If the attack was instant Itachi wouldn't have had time to react.​

 

[Waltz]

He's measuring it against the trees, although I'm unsure of how he knows the size of those trees being the same as one another. Although it's still wrong since the amount of trees isn't comparable in the first place @waltz

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plus the trees are huge. Trees are larger than that platform on the top of the building

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. Those platforms are this massive

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in contrast to the mini trees in Naruto's fight

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My point was the Area of effect, not the number of trees.

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Itachi's complete Susano'o when in combat was bigger than one of your claimed giant trees [

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@ Bold: Alright.

@ Red: Here you begin to fail. According to my logic Orochimaru made an exaggeration on Sasuke's abilities to say that Naruto had ways more to be on par with him strength wise because Orochimaru did not know the full extent of Naruto's abilities at the very moment he issued his statement which you tried to alter. That does not attempt in anyway to debunk the statement, it simply label's it an exaggeration. Since I know your skull is thick I'll let you know something. I don't give a fuck how much you want to try to label it as being "Kishimoto's words" none of that is going to change the fact that the statement at that time was an exaggeration; by definition, a statement that represents something as better or worse than it really is because again as you fail to realize Naruto did not have "Ways" to go in order to be at Sasuke's level because the only thing Sasuke truly had above him was Genjutsu and the Blue is irrelevant because is already agreed that Sasuke would win (this thread) and was obviously the stronger of the two at the time. Bruh, the only failure that occurred was you failing to realize that Dreagod was simply stating that Orochimaru was making an exaggeration; I literally had to come to this thread and waste posts to bring that to the attention of someone of your caliber who should be reasonable and unbaised. ​

Yet he saw felt Naruto's chakra

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, he saw Naruto's chakra power

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, he saw Naruto's chakra arm

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and he saw Naruto's strength

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. And this is with the further ability to assess the difference in power between Naruto's 3T and Naruto's 1T strength

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. He knows the full extent of his physical capabilities, and Naruto's physical capabilities in his mindless state are the ONLY thing he has going for him. @bold, no need to get sad here, everyone knows I'd destroy you in an actual debate ever since people realised how overrated you are.

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@red, get me something that supports this claim you continuously seem to assert as a fact. And dude, you are clearly also not comprehending the initial part of this thread. I replied to Tozisho saying "typical Kishimoto bullshit hype" and referenced the Sasuke>Naruto part is a statement being incapable of being hyperbolised. Sasuke being ways stronger can be hyperbole, but the statement that Sasuke>Naruto cannot. It's like someone stating Yata can repel Sanbi's TBB which is ways beyond Shukaku's. Sanbi's TBB is stronger but it being much stronger is not necessarily true or false. Fact is, Draegod did NOT say what you are suggesting he did. This is Draegod's logic; "Blunt sword is stated to crush any and all defense manga fact stated correct? Yata was stated to block everything yes? No defense for Kamui yes? Sasori stronger then Deidara yes? Kingin>2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage yes?" The bold are things which can be hyperbolised but then he fallaciously catgorises these hyperboles with a statement of Sasori>Deidara which cannot be hyperbole when it's so blatant. Same with Kingin>Kages, if hypothetically it was stated that Kingin beat the Kages then obviously they are stronger, it would be a fact. No hyperbole potential at all. No idea why you are misinterpreting Drae's claims so terribly but he was never talking about Orochimaru's exaggeration, but rather Orochimaru's statement as a whole signifying Sasuke>Naruto. I don't believe I have denied in this thread that ways to go can be a hyperbole, but fact is, Sasuke>Naruto is not.

Yes Apex because Manda can wrap his enormous body around 4T Naruto. ​

He obviously can engulf him can he not? He does not need to warp several times around Naruto when all he's doing is buying Sasuke time.

There was a reason why i said bite/swallow Apex. If It's not going to do shit to the TBV2 Cloak there's no need to mention it and Naruto is faster. ​

And when did I ever talk about KN4 being damaged by Manda? Will he be sent away? Fuk yes. That's all there is to it, he bought Sasuke enough time to use Kirin.

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Yes Apex, The sky was very clear indeed and the intense heat from Amaterasu which could be seen for miles contributed nothing at all to warming up the atmosphere and the very heat from Amatearsu did not make it rain again after their battle. ​

I hope tis is a joke lmfao. Here's the sky at the very beginning

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. Pretty clear sky, no thunder clouds present. Amaerasu is used in chapter 389

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. More Amaterasu here

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and half the forest is on fire here

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. The bottom of that page aka subsequently to the forest being set ablaze by Amaerasu shows the sky. Here it is fam;

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Looks similar if not identical to the beginning prior to Amaterasu's presence. About 6 pages later we see the sky again;

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Nowhere near a lot of clouds and those are not thunder clouds in the first place. 2 FUKIN PAGES LATER:

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Notice how these clouds are DARK GREY. Not white, DARK GREY. I sincerely hope you don't try to suggest Amaterasu was highly relevant here, Katon was clearly the extremely relevant role here whereas Amaterasu was just a slight bonus.

"Sasuke takes 5-10 seconds to prep Kirin" #Dead. I hope that you are indeed attempting to be funny. ​

Yes 2 pages/ a couple of sentences is a very very long time

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And that's identical to the KN4 Naruto? Lmfaoo.. just like Raikiri chain cutting through chakra arms I guess those are identical to the Bijuu's body which outright tanked Raikiri. That's one clone, you suggested he can use several, and you suggested they had the same power as the original. I'll wait for proof on ALL of these before I take you seriously.

Proof and proof against Naruto Moderating his own striking power? :ilu:​

He's mindless smh, plus baseless claim since if you want to assert that he's moderating his own striking power then the burden of proof is on you.

...Tre mother fucking Mercer.

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Sasuke states that he was also hit with the blast so Sasuke's skin can tank over 100million degree's Celsius of Heat? The core of the sun is roughly 15,000,000 degrees Celsius are you saying that Manda, a gigantic Snake can live comfortably in the center of the sun? You've made my night, friend.
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"Right before I flew.. Manda and I received the hit." Yet Sasuke was inside Manda's mouth, so this is in reference to them being attacked and not Sasuke's body directly taking the attack lmfao. Talk about twisting context to create a fallacious argument. And LOL at bold. First of all, Manda was in that explosion for a few moments. Second of all, those few moments killed him so I don't know where comfortably is even coming from. Either way, this is what an explosion smaller than 10km would do, I'm simply low-balling here. Not to mention you aren't taking into account the blast of the explosion which sent shockwaves over 500-1000+km away

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. Either way, this is Manda's op feat since he didn't vaporise from the heat or scatter into small pieces from the balst.

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] panels which has a time lapse of under 2 minutes for Naruto to create and blast a Bijuu Dama. How long did it take Sasuke to prep Kirin in those 8+ panels and how much longer would it take him to prep it without the tremendous help of Amatearsu? Bro, there is no way that Sasuke's Katon's are gathering rain clouds on such a clear day, heavy rain and a storm in under 2 minutes. Sasuke at that time did not know what the function of a Bijuu-Dama was and there's nothing in his defense besides Boss summon's that could potentially defend against such a blast. If Naruto gets the right opportunity he could kill Sasuke with such an attack. ​

Already addressed. Either way, where exactly did you reply to the part where KN4 Naruto can't react to Kirin in order to counter in the first place? I can't seem to find it. Where did you reply to TBB being involuntary since he either regurgitates it or self-explodes, so it is no counter to Kirin in the first place since the process cannot be put to a temporary halt?

@Bold: This is why you make absolutely no sense:

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Whats this? Earth is weak against lightening? OMG look how easily Chidori demolishes the wall. It must be 9.4 Megatons!

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Therefore Chidori > Rasengan. Dumb! Haha and yes Apex, the substance and sturdiness of a material determines ALOT about the inflict it can take from an attack especially in the world of Naruto where there are elemental attacks and certain elements have an abnormal superiority over other elements or substances. I never stated 4T Naruto's Biju Dama is stronger than Kirin but that it should at the very least cancel it out.@ Red: If the attack was instant Itachi wouldn't have had time to react.

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Whats this? Rasengan doesn't even do as much damage to Kabuto as Chidori did to that wall! 15 Kilotons!

First of all the comparison is completely retarded since Naruto did more damage to steel than he did to Kabuto/Sasuke did to the wall [

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]. Second of all, the calc was based on pulverisation and Raiton is strong against Doton/rock because it can dissipate it and not pulverise it. Third of all, your argument hinges upon size/AOE when this is the size of the Uchiha hide-out [

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] and this is the size of the barely visible mini-platforms atop of the building [

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]. It should at the very least cancel it out is nothing but baseless trash given Kirin is much larger, Kirin illustrated far more destructive force, Kirin is calculated at ~700x + the power of KN4 TBB, something which makes any elemental advantage claim a laughable matter. So to dumb it down for you, there's NOTHING going on for your argument and EVERYTHING going on for mine.

Won't bother with your second post seeing how I've pretty much established the KN4 TBB is not comparable in AOE to Kirin.

 

[Waltz]

Yet he saw felt Naruto's chakra

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, he saw Naruto's chakra power

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, he saw Naruto's chakra arm

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and he saw Naruto's strength

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. And this is with the further ability to assess the difference in power between Naruto's 3T and Naruto's 1T strength

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. He knows the full extent of his physical capabilities, and Naruto's physical capabilities in his mindless state are the ONLY thing he has going for him. @bold, no need to get sad here, everyone knows I'd destroy you in an actual debate ever since people realised how overrated you are. @red, get me something that supports this claim you continuously seem to assert as a fact. And dude, you are clearly also not comprehending the initial part of this thread. I replied to Tozisho saying "typical Kishimoto bullshit hype" and referenced the Sasuke>Naruto part is a statement being incapable of being hyperbolised. Sasuke being ways stronger can be hyperbole, but the statement that Sasuke>Naruto cannot. It's like someone stating Yata can repel Sanbi's TBB which is ways beyond Shukaku's. Sanbi's TBB is stronger but it being much stronger is not necessarily true or false. Fact is, Draegod did NOT say what you are suggesting he did. This is Draegod's logic; "Blunt sword is stated to crush any and all defense manga fact stated correct? Yata was stated to block everything yes? No defense for Kamui yes? Sasori stronger then Deidara yes? Kingin>2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage yes?" The bold are things which can be hyperbolised but then he fallaciously catgorises these hyperboles with a statement of Sasori>Deidara which cannot be hyperbole when it's so blatant. Same with Kingin>Kages, if hypothetically it was stated that Kingin beat the Kages then obviously they are stronger, it would be a fact. No hyperbole potential at all. No idea why you are misinterpreting Drae's claims so terribly but he was never talking about Orochimaru's exaggeration, but rather Orochimaru's statement as a whole signifying Sasuke>Naruto. I don't believe I have denied in this thread that ways to go can be a hyperbole, but fact is, Sasuke>Naruto is not.

The red is a bunch of useless and irrelevant information for the simple fact that none of it denounces what I stated before. You haven't dis-proven the fact that it was an exaggeration nor have you provided any evidence to show that Sasuke at that time had anything over Naruto besides Genjutsu beside some self deluded rambling. I already showed you how Naruto at that point counters everything in Sasuke's arsenal besides Genjutsu also that Chakra wise and physical strength wise Nartuo trashes Sasuke about and would outlast him. @Bold: Haha so you could tell Waltz more bed time stories about Manda being able to withstand over 500 million degrees Celsius? Sure ;p

@ Blue: So essentially you're saying that the terminology was not the issue as I initially suggested but that Dreagod erroneously aligned the implication of Orochimaru's statement to Yata > All attacks and tried to support it with probable incompetence on Orochimaru's behalf and in doing so made other erroneous correlations? Could buy it but the bold below seems to suggest that he was pointing towards the actual statement and seems to suggest that he was calling you a fanboy for using Oro's statement to establish some sort of extreme superiority to Sasuke----collectively, overalll at the time over Naruto----collectively, overall.

Nobody argued with the manga, it was oru opinion not fact since they've yet to fight. What mine and others are saying is you choose what phrase or hype or he said she said is true based on who you like. Which is retarded unless you take it all as fact with out question and disregard feats! Is kingin stronger then the 2 hokage a in there prime? Based on manga hype they are with out question!! Based on feats displayed tobirama appears to be superior. Get it?

Your posts at a point also seemed to suggest the same as you refuse to acknowledge that Sasuke had nothing over Naruto sides Gejutsu but then again I'll have to buy it because the red portion of Draegod's post goes back into what you just explained, out of context correlations.
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He obviously can engulf him can he not? He does not need to warp several times around Naruto when all he's doing is buying Sasuke time.

I disagree. Naruto can create replica's of himself from any point of his body. Several 4T clones, wielding such striking power would trash Manda about in very small time and during this time NAruto could simply use chakra arms from underground to engage Sasuke and create even more replica's of himself via these arms. ​

And when did I ever talk about KN4 being damaged by Manda? Will he be sent away? Fuk yes. That's all there is to it, he bought Sasuke enough time to use Kirin.

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. During all of this Naruto has arms intercepting Sasuke. ​

I hope tis is a joke lmfao. Here's the sky at the very beginning

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. More Amaterasu here

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and half the forest is on fire here

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. The bottom of that page aka subsequently to the forest being set ablaze by Amaerasu shows the sky. Here it is fam;

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Looks similar if not identical to the beginning prior to Amaterasu's presence. About 6 pages later we see the sky again;

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Nowhere near a lot of clouds and those are not thunder clouds in the first place. 2 FUKIN PAGES LATER:

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Notice how these clouds are DARK GREY. Not white, DARK GREY. I sincerely hope you don't try to suggest Amaterasu was highly relevant here, Katon was clearly the extremely relevant role here whereas Amaterasu was just a slight bonus.

The day can't be clear if its that cloudy no matter how much you try to play it off as being clear, it was not. I never stated or implied that Amaterasu was directly responsible for the thunderstorm but the simple fact that Amaterasu much is hotter than a regular Katon simply means that it would have aided greatly in warming the atmosphere especially since it was already consuming half of the forest you referenced and was growing every second. It's not a hard concept to comprehend. ​

Yes 2 pages/ a couple of sentences is a very very long time

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And that's identical to the KN4 Naruto? Lmfaoo..

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Look at it. Looks just like Naruto, identical in every way but I forgot, you're Apex, the Master of logic and reason so no it's not identical and the dictionary's definition of clone is wrong. These claimed Tier-2 individuals on that list I tell you

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just like Raikiri chain cutting through chakra arms I guess those are identical to the Bijuu's body which outright tanked Raikiri. That's one clone, you suggested he can use several, and you suggested they had the same power as the original. I'll wait for proof on ALL of these before I take you seriously.

Next on the list of Apex's logic is: because Chidori can disperse Naruto's bunshin means that the Clone does not have the same physical strength as Naruto. More ignorance. Well obviously Naruto can make replica's of himself or parts of his body protrude from any part of his body and the bold is Ad ignorantiam since the burden of proof of the contrary is on your shoulders so it's good to know you're now resorting to fallacy's. ​

"Right before I flew.. Manda and I received the hit." Yet Sasuke was inside Manda's mouth, so this is in reference to them being attacked and not Sasuke's body directly taking the attack lmfao. Talk about twisting context to create a fallacious argument.

The question to Sasuke is why he was so torn up, it obviously means he endured some sort of damage from the blast. Inside of Manda's mouth are his tongue and Oral cavity, soft fleshy tissue. In your previous post you claimed that the blast was over 100,000,000°C. Since Manda still had an oral cavity and was able to talk just before talking away it suggests that even such phenomenally intense heat bypassed the inner portions of his mouth and affected Sasuke to the point he was so torn up. You're funny! xD ​

And LOL at bold. First of all, Manda was in that explosion for a few moments. Second of all, those few moments killed him so I don't know where comfortably is even coming from. Either way, this is what an explosion smaller than 10km would do, I'm simply low-balling here. Not to mention you aren't taking into account the blast of the explosion which sent shockwaves over 500-1000+km away

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. Either way, this is Manda's op feat since he didn't vaporise from the heat or scatter into small pieces from the balst.

What do you mean by where's comfortably coming from? Alright. I'll explain your own post to you since your brain is running out of juice.

1) Deidara's explosion > a much smaller bomb.
2) A much smaller bomb would be in the 100,000,000°C range in terms of heat.
3) Therefore Deiddara's explosion >>> 100,000,000°C in terms of heat.
4) Manda survived direct exposure to such heat for a few seconds.

If the Sun's core is only 15% (15,000,000°C) of the heat of a bomb much smaller than Deidara's explosion which Manda survived direct exposure to for a few seconds; then by your dumb logic, Manda can live comfortably inside the core of the Sun. The red shaded information is irrelevant. ​

Already addressed. Either way, where exactly did you reply to the part where KN4 Naruto can't react to Kirin in order to counter in the first place? I can't seem to find it. Where did you reply to TBB being involuntary since he either regurgitates it or self-explodes, so it is no counter to Kirin in the first place since the process cannot be put to a temporary halt?

Your attempt to address failed because besides that 5-10 seconds BS you still haven't proven that it took Sasuke less time to form Kirin than it would take Naruto to fire A Bijuu-Dama into the Sky. @ Bold: If Naruto kills (and he can, save Genjutsu) Sasuke, Kirin fails and based on the AoE and intensity; If Naruto blasts a Bijuu-Dama at Kirin it would cancel it out. The only thing that can Bro, V1 Susano'o/Susano'o ribcage/what ever portion of Susano'o Itachi was able to muster up tanked almost all of the damage Kirin was trying to inflict. @ Underlined: The part about Naruto was senseless to mention because he's going to regurgitate it and Naruto doesn't need to stop Kirin's process.​

First of all the comparison is completely retarded since Naruto did more damage to steel than he did to Kabuto/Sasuke did to the wall [

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Apex did you mention this to say that Kabuto's stomach can tank more damage than a giant drum or to agree with what i said before that Earth is weak against lightening or is this more off topic irrelevant information? ​

Second of all, the calc was based on pulverisation and Raiton is strong against Doton/rock because it can dissipate it and not pulverise it.

Pulverize: reduce to fine particles.

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Third of all, your argument hinges upon size/AOE when this is the size of the Uchiha hide-out [

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Yes my comparison is based on AoE but there are other factors that are just as equally important such as elements. Earth is weak against lightening If Sasuke forms a strong enough Chidori he could effortlessly tunnel his way through the entire Uchiha hideout from top to bottom where as Naruto's Rasengan would not be able to do the same even though Naruto's Rasengan may be stronger because it does not have superiority over Earthen material's as Chidori and no Apex, Not because something is bigger means it's stronger. Kirin is a large lightening bolt that was tanked by V1 Susano'o/Ribcage where as the Biju Dama (in this case) is a highly dense concentrated ratio of chakra from a Bijuu that has the explosive power to go through more than 3 Rashoumon gates.

@ Rest: K. ​