[VS] Healthy Itachi(MS) vs Mobile Nagato(Rinnegan)

[Nocturnal Beast]

When did Itachi counter CT he had Bee and Naruto's help but still Itachi would win due to genjutsu and Nagato's trump card is CT.Nagato would win if he has Shurado and Deva in the end.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

When did Itachi counter CT he had Bee and Naruto's help but still Itachi would win due to genjutsu and Nagato's trump card is CT.Nagato would win if he has Shurado and Deva in the end.

Nagato has Intel. He knows not to look in itachi's eyes. He has no reason to look into itachi's eyes since he's a sensor.

 

[Nocturnal Beast]

Nagato can't sense genjutsu.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nagato can't sense genjutsu.

Claims he can't sense chakra buildup in the eyes despite him being a sensor and despite nagato already sensing chakra buildup in the eye.

 

[GodKage]

itachi wins high diff

 

[genii96]

wtf.. If Kakashi doesn't possess Uchiha DNA and thus isn't able to counter Tsukuyomi, Nagato isn't as well.
Orochimaru did experiments on Danzo and modified his body, that wasn't a mere eye transplant. If you say that Danzo obtained Uchiha DNA via the eye transplant, it's about you to prove that.

Itachi clearly said, that a mere eye transplant won't protect you from Tsukuyomi, as you lack the Kekkei Genkai (DNA).

So accept facts, Nagato can't withstand Tsukuyomi.

Okay. Um the wole point of my dna debate with varias was not about tsukiyomi,rather about nagata controlling gedo,have no idea where that came from.

However, now that you mention it,
Orochimaru made experiments on danzo with hashi's dna,nothin about uchih dna was stated,obito believed danzo and oro where in contact onlly after seeing the senju dna. Orochimaru modified danzo's arm with the dna,that's all,nothing else was said, if you have proof of anything else,then show it. Obito didn't see inside danzo's body what gave him the idea that danzo possesed these 2 dna's was what he saw,sharingan and danzo's arm

Nagato also posseses yin-yang relese,something only those with senju uchiha dna have shown like danzo

Having uchiha dna dosent automatically break tsukkkiyomi,sasuke,an uchiha was also oneshotted too.your dojutsu must be powerful enough A 3t sharingan breaking the ultimate genjutsu of an ms is unlikely for anyone who has a 3t,kaksh's 3t could simply not contend with itachi's ms especially as itachi is a genjutsu type.
Sasuke's sharingan was good enough to put a boss summon the size of a bijuu under genjutsu while sasuke was badly weakened,and reverse oro's dimension on him,he had oro's power coupled with the cursed seal. Itachi who said that uchiha blood was ble to break it, was shocked when sasuke did it.
Nagato has the rinnegan,heavily superior to the ms




You keep bringing what itachi said in part 1,he also said he and kisame would draw with jiraiya,hiruzen was called the strongest hokage,jiraiya said only a sannon can beat a sannin,are these true in part 2? No,the same with itachi's statement.

 

[LustyLover]

Okay. Um the wole point of my dna debate with varias was not about tsukiyomi,rather about nagata controlling gedo,have no idea where that came from.

However, now that you mention it,
Orochimaru made experiments on danzo with hashi's dna,nothin about uchih dna was stated,obito believed danzo and oro where in contact onlly after seeing the senju dna. Orochimaru modified danzo's arm with the dna,that's all,nothing else was said, if you have proof of anything else,then show it. Obito didn't see inside danzo's body what gave him the idea that danzo possesed these 2 dna's was what he saw,sharingan and danzo's arm

Nagato also posseses yin-yang relese,something only those with senju uchiha dna have shown like danzo

Having uchiha dna dosent automatically break tsukkkiyomi,sasuke,an uchiha was also oneshotted too.your dojutsu must be powerful enough A 3t sharingan breaking the ultimate genjutsu of an ms is unlikely for anyone who has a 3t,kaksh's 3t could simply not contend with itachi's ms especially as itachi is a genjutsu type.
Sasuke's sharingan was good enough to put a boss summon the size of a bijuu under genjutsu while sasuke was badly weakened,and reverse oro's dimension on him,he had oro's power coupled with the cursed seal. Itachi who said that uchiha blood was ble to break it, was shocked when sasuke did it.
Nagato has the rinnegan,heavily superior to the ms




You keep bringing what itachi said in part 1,he also said he and kisame would draw with jiraiya,hiruzen was called the strongest hokage,jiraiya said only a sannon can beat a sannin,are these true in part 2? No,the same with itachi's statement.

Jesus christ, become literate. If you're going to type, the best you can do is type correctly.

 

[VolatileSoul]

It's sad that people think Itachi actually wins this. Nagato can't break Tsukuyomi, but it's not like he's stupid enough to make eye contact with Itachi. Ama and Magatama get absorbed. This is a simple as uses Chibaku Tensei and watching the fireworks.

 

[LustyLover]

It's sad that people think Itachi actually wins this. Nagato can't break Tsukuyomi, but it's not like he's stupid enough to make eye contact with Itachi. Ama and Magatama get absorbed. This is a simple as uses Chibaku Tensei and watching the fireworks.

Nobody is stupid enough to look into Itachi's eyes. That doesn't mean they won't get caught in it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nobody is stupid enough to look into Itachi's eyes. That doesn't mean they won't get caught in it.

He closes his eyes. Throws ct in the air and kills itachi. Simple.

 

[narutokage99]

Nagato win no diff.

 

[Airbear]

He closes his eyes. Throws ct in the air and kills itachi. Simple.

Not IC for nagato. Itachi waste no time in countering with magatamas, breaks it in its early stages before debri blocks the orb. Nagato foolishly leaves his eyes closed, and gets one shotted again by totsuka which is not chakra based but rather a spiritual weapon. So Nagato isn't sensing shi1.

Yeah close your eyes against itachi... Lol Only Kabuto should be doing that. Bad argument

 

[Phonas]

Why argue over the effectiveness of Tsukuyomi? Are you guys forgetting how insanely fast Itachi can move his Totsuka (under a second, like literally)? Then there's the Yata Mirror, which Nagato can't get passed.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Not IC for nagato. Itachi waste no time in countering with magatamas, breaks it in its early stages before debri blocks the orb. Nagato foolishly leaves his eyes closed, and gets one shotted again by totsuka which is not chakra based but rather a spiritual weapon. So Nagato isn't sensing shi1.

Yeah close your eyes against itachi... Lol Only Kabuto should be doing that. Bad argument

Matanagma isn't strong enough to destroy it. Period.
He senses the perfect susanno needed for totska quite fine and dodges effortlessly.

 

[Conspirator.]

The only real issue is Itachi's tsukuyomi. Providing nagato avoids eye contact, he wins handily. However, if itachi is somehow able to suck nagato into making eye contact early on(via a simple clone feint or a weaker genjutsu) he may be able to trap nagato in tsukuyomi, and if he does nagato definitely loses.

 

[VongolaX]

Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.






Am I stupid? Ask yourself that,izanagi is done only by combining senju and uchiha,

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Thus danzo had both,but couldn't properly control his senju dna nd thus izanagi wasn't complete. This already makes everything else worthless but...meh

As I have said tons of times,taking some dna from n uchiha dosent make you one,kakashi isn't an uchiha and so can't break it. Obito's dn is PRECISELY the reason why kakashi has kamui,,had he taken shiushi's own,theb he would have had ka,isn't that obvious?

Nagato mastered yinyang release at the age of 10,danzo had it(izanagi),ms obito had it(izanagi) so gedo has nothing to do with it,only those with senju uchiha dna has been shown to use it

Madara never used soul dragon,he used chains which is an ability of the outer path,he was boosted by senju dna and further boosted by sge mode allowing him to use it on that scale and capture them quickly.

It is more difficult to handle six bijuus at a time,especially if you are running your chakra through eachj of them via receivers. Obito clearly hd no problem with gedo itselfnthe bijuus inside don't add ny problem,just serve as btteries for the gedo

All the aktsuki used were the ones alive,obito did it with three because no one else was available. The only thing the akatsuki members contributed was a reduction in the sealing time,because none of them cn do jack about gedo,nor can they control it or use it. Nagato summons it,nagto is the one that brings out the dragon,the more they were,the less time.


Transplanting a freaking tissue dosent make you a senju,madar is an uchiha,with senju dna alongside. Aside from his little transplant everything else is uchiha in him,so why would a freakibg tissue turn him to senju?

Oh and speaking of tissues,thhe eye is n ORGAN which posseses several TISSUES,if a tissue gave maddy senju,then an orgn gives nagato uchiha

What the hell?

Are you reading the right manga?

First off, Nagato doesn't have yin yang release not in the slightest.

Nowhere in the manga is this stated, so stop with the @sspull.

Second, all you need is an eye and senju DNA to use the incomplete inzanagi.

The scan you showed doesn't post DNA, it states the power of both uchiha and senju (which is sharingan and mokuton/senju life energy) <----Nagato doesn't have the sharingan

To use the full perfect inzanagi, you need both uchiha and senju DNA which derived off of Creations of all things.

Nagato has neither of them...

Lastly do you even know what a tissue is in the first place?

Madara literally took a tissue from Hashirama and transplant it in the hole in his chest.

He is both uchiha/senju because he acquired Hashirama's tissue, Nagato has nothing in regards to Uchiha.

It's really pathetic that you think that Madara who injected himself with cells/what an organism is made of, is not Senju but you think Nagato getting someone's eyes gives you cells/what Madara is made of.

Madara used the same exact process as DSM Kabuto to achieve Oro/Uzamaki/Houzoki/Tenpin cells tissue.

Nagato gets a little eye transplant, you literally get no cells in uchiha whatsoever... :|

The Gedo mazou thing, I have no idea what you're rambling on about but all I know is that Nagato can barely control Statue and that
The 9 dragon is an akatsuki Justu.

Pain can't do it on his own, even Tobi no rinnegan used the 9 dragon seal with only zetsu and kisame.

 

[VongolaX]

He closes his eyes. Throws ct in the air and kills itachi. Simple.

Do you know how many people didn't look into itachi's eyes or close their eyes, yet still get caught in a genjustu?

The ocular genjustu affects all 5 senses, it's not limited to eye sight and kabuto is a fine example of this.

 

[Bogard]

Oh god the overrated tsukuyomi once again. Kishimoto is never portraying a high level opponent like Nagato losing to this jutsu. It's not for a reason he put 3high lvl opponents(including Itachi) to defeat a fake one

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Do you know how many people didn't look into itachi's eyes or close their eyes, yet still get caught in a genjustu?

The ocular genjustu affects all 5 senses, it's not limited to eye sight and kabuto is a fine example of this.

All genjutsu's affect all senses.
All genjutsu needs a medium in which to be activated
Ocular genjutsu(bar izanagi/izanami) require eye contact to be initiated. Indisputable fact.
No eye contact, no genjutsu. Hence itachi forcing kakashi to look in his eyes or itachi still having to pull kabuto's eyelids up to use tsukuyomi.
Every person that fell for itachi's visual genjutsu looked into his eyes. Nagato's a sensor. He doesn't need eye contact. Plain and simple.

 

[TheTailedSage]

For those in favour of Itachi do realise that Nagato can break out of Any genjutsu he throws at him and that Chibaku tensei can actually end Itachi. anyone bring ing the scan of it being destroyed need to realize it was a 3 man job