[Theory] Hawkins using Kaido as a Voodoo Doll?

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If Luffy and Zoro do end up fighting Hawkins do you think Hawkins is using Kaido as a voodoo doll to tank all damage?
Could that even work? and if so Hawkins could be a strong opponent. Im not to sure how his DF works but i really could see that happening.

I saw the theory somewhere and was wondering what other people thought about the idea. Kaido wants to die and even if Hawkins asked for the voodoo doll why would he say no. It would make Hawkins an unkillable Soldier for Kiado and if he ends up taking lethal damage Kaido gets what he wants lol True?
 

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i dont mean to be off topic so i apologize, but how much does an episode of the anime cover in comparison to the manga?

does OP have a lot of filler?
 

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If Luffy and Zoro do end up fighting Hawkins do you think Hawkins is using Kaido as a voodoo doll to tank all damage?
Could that even work? and if so Hawkins could be a strong opponent. Im not to sure how his DF works but i really could see that happening.

I saw the theory somewhere and was wondering what other people thought about the idea. Kaido wants to die and even if Hawkins asked for the voodoo doll why would he say no. It would make Hawkins an unkillable Soldier for Kiado and if he ends up taking lethal damage Kaido gets what he wants lol True?
The question that should be asked is how the process work of getting one individual as a shield, as a puppet for damage. But there is one thing that we need to know, is Hawkins DF useless against Haki?
 

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i dont mean to be off topic so i apologize, but how much does an episode of the anime cover in comparison to the manga?

does OP have a lot of filler?
There are only a few filler arcs in OP and most happen in the earlier episodes. On top of that those arcs only last like 5-6 episodes. That said one of my favorite arcs is a filler arc, so that says something about the quality.

In later episodes there rarely is any filler left, unless there is a tie in to a movie or a special episode or something. Later on the episodes get padded and stretched a bit to the point where 1 manga chapter is 1 episode. So there is a lot of running and fights drag on a bit longer. to stall for time.

All in all still pretty damn good anime, you won't regret if you start watching it.


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With Hawkins, Apoo and Law in the mix there will be a lot of DF fuckery going on. Can't tell what side Hawkins will end up on, probably the alliance side, but maybe all those crazy powers are the key to bring him down. It doesn't look like physical things can really hurt him.

Big Mom was laughing at a G4th attack and she isn't even known for her toughness.
 
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I don’t think they’ll be able to do anything to Luffy or Zoro unless they permit it. In all honesty Luffy is sitting on a higher level than Hawkins is right now. Do you believe Hawkins can put a voodoo doll on Marco or Katakuri?
 

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There are only a few filler arcs in OP and most happen in the earlier episodes. On top of that those arcs only last like 5-6 episodes. That said one of my favorite arcs is a filler arc, so that says something about the quality.

In later episodes there rarely is any filler left, unless there is a tie in to a movie or a special episode or something. Later on the episodes get padded and stretched a bit to the point where 1 manga chapter is 1 episode. So there is a lot of running and fights drag on a bit longer. to stall for time.

All in all still pretty damn good anime, you won't regret if you start watching it.


On-topic:

With Hawkins, Apoo and Law in the mix there will be a lot of DF fuckery going on. Can't tell what side Hawkins will end up on, probably the alliance side, but maybe all those crazy powers are the key to bring him down. It doesn't look like physical things can really hurt him.

Big Mom was laughing at a G4th attack and she isn't even known for her toughness.
lBig mom isn't known for her toughness yet she's never received a scratch except by herself and broke the leaders of elbafs sword at 5 lol . But Kaido has scars etc. Gtfo
 

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lBig mom isn't known for her toughness yet she's never received a scratch except by herself and broke the leaders of elbafs sword at 5 lol . But Kaido has scars etc. Gtfo
The difference between Kizaru and you is that he acts dumb, you just are dumb.

Never said that Big Mom wasn't hard to injure, all I said that before WCI the information we got going into the yonkou saga is that Kaidou was the immortal beast, Big Mom had no such hype. YET they already had trouble injuring Big Mom which would presumably lead to more trouble when they face off against Kaidou.

Sometimes you shouldn't read so directly what someone said, try to process it, maybe you need to read into some statements more, draw a parallel. Momma bird can only chew your food for you so long before she decides you're a failure and throws you out of the nest.
 
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The difference between Kizaru and you is that he acts dumb, you just are dumb.

Never said that Big Mom wasn't hard to injure, all I said that before WCI the information we got going into the yonkou saga is that Kaidou was the immortal beast, Big Mom had no such hype. YET they already had trouble injuring Big Mom which would presumably lead to more trouble when they face off against Kaidou.

Sometimes you shouldn't read so directly what someone said, try to process it, maybe you need to read into some statements more, draw a parallel. Momma bird can only chew your food for you so long before she decides you're a failure and throws you out of the nest.
Big Mom is called the Iron Balloon, so I think it's pretty unfair to say she isn't known for her defense. It's certainly not the norm for Yonkos seeing how Blackbeard literally writhes in pain, Whitebeard sustained a number of injuries due to fodder, and Shanks lost his arm.
 

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Big Mom is called the Iron Balloon, so I think it's pretty unfair to say she isn't known for her defense. It's certainly not the norm for Yonkos seeing how Blackbeard literally writhes in pain, Whitebeard sustained a number of injuries due to fodder, and Shanks lost his arm.
Also not true, Sanji called her an iron balloon during the fight. It's not like it's an epithet or if she's known for being indestructible. Otherwise we would've heard about it on Zou and made plans accordingly. Being tough is part of the yonkou lifestyle, even Whitebeard tanked a shitload of attacks before he kicked the bucket. But the only yonkou who got an entire chapter dedicated to his immortality is Kaidou. No spears, no guillotine, no cannons, no poison, no fall damage. Oda made pretty clear this man is invincible at this moment.

BB was in pain once because he didn't have his shit together, otherwise his fruit grants him a pretty sick defense where he can absorb anything. His weakness is absorbing damage. Now he has 2 years more experience and is considered a yonkou, I'm sure he doesn't need to take any more hits for the sake of demonstrating his ability.

Shanks' lost an arm due for plot reasons. I don't think it was ab option for Shanks to use CoA in chapter 1 and have the seamonster break his teeth.

Bottomline when we were on Zou there was no doubt about it that Kaidou would be the durable one thanks to the hype. You can try to bring up everything from after the fact that the faced a yonkou but Big Mom did not have the invulnerability hype.
 

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Also not true, Sanji called her an iron balloon during the fight. It's not like it's an epithet or if she's known for being indestructible. Otherwise we would've heard about it on Zou and made plans accordingly. Being tough is part of the yonkou lifestyle, even Whitebeard tanked a shitload of attacks before he kicked the bucket. But the only yonkou who got an entire chapter dedicated to his immortality is Kaidou. No spears, no guillotine, no cannons, no poison, no fall damage. Oda made pretty clear this man is invincible at this moment.

BB was in pain once because he didn't have his shit together, otherwise his fruit grants him a pretty sick defense where he can absorb anything. His weakness is absorbing damage. Now he has 2 years more experience and is considered a yonkou, I'm sure he doesn't need to take any more hits for the sake of demonstrating his ability.

Shanks' lost an arm due for plot reasons. I don't think it was ab option for Shanks to use CoA in chapter 1 and have the seamonster break his teeth.

Bottomline when we were on Zou there was no doubt about it that Kaidou would be the durable one thanks to the hype. You can try to bring up everything from after the fact that the faced a yonkou but Big Mom did not have the invulnerability hype.
She does now, even more than kaido. Kaidos actually been hurt before. Big Mom HAS NEVER EVER BEEN HURT but by herself,
 

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Also not true, Sanji called her an iron balloon during the fight. It's not like it's an epithet or if she's known for being indestructible. Otherwise we would've heard about it on Zou and made plans accordingly. Being tough is part of the yonkou lifestyle, even Whitebeard tanked a shitload of attacks before he kicked the bucket. But the only yonkou who got an entire chapter dedicated to his immortality is Kaidou. No spears, no guillotine, no cannons, no poison, no fall damage. Oda made pretty clear this man is invincible at this moment.

BB was in pain once because he didn't have his shit together, otherwise his fruit grants him a pretty sick defense where he can absorb anything. His weakness is absorbing damage. Now he has 2 years more experience and is considered a yonkou, I'm sure he doesn't need to take any more hits for the sake of demonstrating his ability.

Shanks' lost an arm due for plot reasons. I don't think it was ab option for Shanks to use CoA in chapter 1 and have the seamonster break his teeth.

Bottomline when we were on Zou there was no doubt about it that Kaidou would be the durable one thanks to the hype. You can try to bring up everything from after the fact that the faced a yonkou but Big Mom did not have the invulnerability hype.
You're right. I remembered incorrectly. Big Mom is still relatively tanky as **** though.
 
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