having the most ninjutsu or the most powerful technique or even the most powerful kkg

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does not make one strong and here is why

1 will: if you do not have the will the fight then you obviously can't stand to take hits

2 naruto's examples: naruto time and time again up until the 4th shinobi war that sometimes even the smallest of ninjutsu can turn the tide of battle. like with pain vs naruto. he held off all but 1 of the pains (the deva was omni potent) using only what he learned to do with a jonin level shadow clone and rasangans (granted some were a step above the rest). naruto in his own way showed that all you need is time, a stratagey and or impulse to get the job done

3 that is the theme besides friendship: like sasuke vs kabutomaru with itachi. kabutomaru lost vastly weaker opponets because of itachi's stratagey. his arrogants caused by what he gain got the better of him.

4 things you want to protect: naruto has always been a underdog that is undeniable. until recently when he got bijuu mode did naruto jump up the ranks. but what kept him going was his the things he loved which are his friends, family (sasuke is considered a brother to him) and the dream he holds dear that seems to run in the famliy
 

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Some people are just better suited to fight others, yet people on this site just seem to go by how big the jutsu is (*cough Madara cough*). Its all about strategy an matchups. Shika-hidan was a good example. Another could be if Suigetsu (immune to physical attacks) happened to fight Tsunade (only uses physical attacks).
 

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I agree, and yeah the fight with pain at the last moment he withstood the shinra tensei with bunch of clone were one of my favorite moment of him.
 

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all tremble under true power u.u

-Madara Uchiha
 

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all tremble under true power u.u

-Madara Uchiha

true power is not arrogance he only that way because he can't die now if he could and was not edo he would've had that ass whooped by now
 

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true power is not arrogance he only that way because he can't die now if he could and was not edo he would've had that ass whooped by now

exacly....but hes not lol, he is *was* invincible and no one could stop him. its true you can make the most out of the simplest of moves but when faced with overwhelming power sometimes the chances or below that of zero
 
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exactly it all depends on the situation or else there would be no point the fight would simply be who has the strongest over powerd justu and if that where true i might aswell stop reading the manga since some how madara for no aperant reason just came in and overpowerd everything
 

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does not make one strong and here is why

1 will: if you do not have the will the fight then you obviously can't stand to take hits

2 naruto's examples: naruto time and time again up until the 4th shinobi war that sometimes even the smallest of ninjutsu can turn the tide of battle. like with pain vs naruto. he held off all but 1 of the pains (the deva was omni potent) using only what he learned to do with a jonin level shadow clone and rasangans (granted some were a step above the rest). naruto in his own way showed that all you need is time, a stratagey and or impulse to get the job done

3 that is the theme besides friendship: like sasuke vs kabutomaru with itachi. kabutomaru lost vastly weaker opponets because of itachi's stratagey. his arrogants caused by what he gain got the better of him.

4 things you want to protect: naruto has always been a underdog that is undeniable. until recently when he got bijuu mode did naruto jump up the ranks. but what kept him going was his the things he loved which are his friends, family (sasuke is considered a brother to him) and the dream he holds dear that seems to run in the famliy

Completely agree. Just cause someone has more power, doesn't mean they cant get knocked off by someone below them, but i guess it works the other way around too. Someone like Ten Ten cant automatically be assumed to win over Neji because she is an underdog.
 

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I totally believe that if Deva was active from the beginning Naruto's "strategy" (lol) wouldn't have worked.

Shikamaru fights are always the ones that show this properly.

Oh yeah, your last point about "things you want to protect" seems like a whole lot of plot-no-jutsu to me.
 

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madara madara
tobi tobi

they suck as character

tobi is like guess who eehhhh your wrong
madara talks to damn much
 

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100% true. Shikamaru beat an immortal Akatsuki member with his brains. You can have battlefield destroying jutsus but the person with motivation or a good strategy will win
 

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When it's someone like Madara, those things aren't needed.
 

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here is the thing that wins battles

will
effort
plans
the need to protect someone
 

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When it's someone like Madara, those things aren't needed.

yes but madara is a true uchiha

arrogant and pompus and also very power hungry

that is what did him in the 1st place you think he would learn though

when face with someone that will die fighting for ones they love. you will always loose
 

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yes but madara is a true uchiha

arrogant and pompus and also very power hungry

that is what did him in the 1st place you think he would learn though

when face with someone that will die fighting for ones they love. you will always loose

That's how it is. The evil side would fight for power, glory etc.. And the good side would fight to protect the ones you love, and the good side always wins.
 

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That's how it is. The evil side would fight for power, glory etc.. And the good side would fight to protect the ones you love, and the good side always wins.

in a way though

life is like this in my oppion

light> dark
happiness> sadness
rightious rage> hate
truth maybe painful> then a lie
 

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in a way though

life is like this in my oppion

light> dark
happiness> sadness
rightious rage> hate
truth maybe painful> then a lie

But the opposite side is always more amusing.
 

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so if you have no good ninja skills you can beat a s-rank lmfao
 
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