Have Yondaime and Madara Uchiha fought before? evidence please:)
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This is not mine
I have been thinking and I think I came up with and explanation about this.
Because Kishimoto likes to apply to japanese mythology in most of the manga. He could have done the same in this case.
Explanation
We all know that Madara had the power to summon the Kyuubi, but what if he did it after his fight with Shodai Hokage?
Shodai used all his power to defeat the Kyuubi or at least injure it.
Kyuubi having broken free from Madara's control, and impressed with Shodai's determination, goes into hiding, because she is unable to return to her realm. Kyuubi travels the world, learning more about Humanity using human forms to interact. (Mythology said that Kyuubi liked to transform in humans and play tricks)
Eventually she came to Konoha and used a false identity has Kushina Uzumaki, from the Country of Whirlpools, when Minato was still a gennin, and decided to stay, because she saw a lot of Shodai in him. She eventually grew up to become a beautiful woman, she also used jutsu similar to Naruto.(Kyuubi liked to play pranks on people by transforming in naked and beautiful women). She was also very tomboish, also because she was the Kyuubi.
Marrige and life in Konoha
Kyuubi might have fallen in love because of his selfless personality, or just wanted to spend more time with Minato. Minato never found out about Kushina being Kyuubi until later. They eventually married and were happy together(Mythology states that Kyuubi was a lovable, dependable and loyal wife). She eventually got pregnant with Naruto.
Tragidy
All this time Madara had been searching for Kushina to use her again to take his revenge on Konoha, not that Shodai and Nidaime were dead. He thought no one stood in their way, now.
Kushina might have some point incontered Madara, but he didn't recongnize her.
From here there are a few guesses that could have happned:
- Kushina might have told only Minato about her true identity and tought him sealing or other justu;
- Or she didn't tell him;
-etc.
Birthday
On the even of the birth Madara could have used Tsukuyomi to trick Kushina into thinking that the village found out about her being the Kyuubi and the tricked her into thinking the village killed her child.
Minato tried to resaon with her but she ran away. Madara followed and tricked her again.
Kushina in a fit of rage regressed back into Kyuubi and started to hunt Madara but then she found the village and attacked it.
Minato tried to calm Kushina down or to slow her enough to calm down. (It said that Kyuubi fought with Minato for a long time, he was a genius so he should have realized a lot sooner that any attacks were useless against Kyuubi, so this could be the reason why it took so long)
Loosing all hope for his wife, Minato did the last thing he could, he used his own son to seal the Kyuubi and sacrificed himself. He used Naruto because he was their son and he might be the only one who could control that power. (The Kyuubi's children, that she had while in human form, had special powers, and characteristics.).
I can't tell if Kyuubi knows about her son or if she lost all her memories.
Ehat do you think?
sakum0n0leonmccash
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that's a stab in the dark. a huge one. kinda like a blind, deaf, numb guy trying to stab someone and missing horribly. it doesn't go with the flow of the story
FlashKID124
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my bad.. I wonder what the japanese literal translation says. sometimes words get lost in translation. I think it's odd to be able to summon a bijuu. wouldn't you have to have a contract or something like that? Madara probably summons it by other means other than the normal kuchiyose no jutsu
Naruto1217
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I think Madara did have the power to control and Summon the Kyuubi; In the Flashback where he's fighting the 1st Hokage, The Kyuubi appears out of mid-air; I dont think is was walking along by and Madara was able to control it that way. :headband:
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the 8-tails asks killer B "why did you summon me when you already had the upper hand"........so.....who knows for sure,as i dont think killer B performed hand seals,wiped blood,etc. to do it (i know it doesn't show him doing it in manga)......but it doesn't always show that stuff neways
Naruto1217
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I'm just thinkin logically; I really dont think it was just walking around for Madara to take control of it; He must have summoned it while he was fighting the first; It kinda solidified Jiraiya's point. :headband:
In reponse to whether he summoned the fox(taking into account the arc with the 3 tails) the 3 tails came from another dimension as mentioned by guren.This may also be the case with the 9 tails and it may have been summoned,alot like the snakes that attacked when the sound came to konoha.Also legendary animals like orochimaru's,tsunade's and jiraya's are all summoned this leads me to the idea that it may have been part of a summoning as such.This is just my opinion though.so don't try and bite my head off for it.
yes well thats what i was saying w/o actually saying it........in laymans terms
if he didn't perform seals then he was refering to goin full biju and/or the biju taking control while killer b takes the back seat (as it doesn't appear that killer B was controling full 8-tails,but the 8-tails wasn't out of control either)
like 2 ppl sharing one form and just switching control (like the dude from the sound 4,that fought kiba during rescue sasuke arc)
i just didn't think i had to explain all this for you to understand
