Hashirama's superiority...

[Omnipotent]

Some of you seem to believe Hashirama is near equal to EMS Madara.
I'm here to tell you that I believe that is wrong.

Let me guys show you how manga proof is done, showing Hashirama's superiority:

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Edo Madara calls Hashirama the ultimate shinobi, and says that five Kage with their combined efforts are still nothing compared to Hashirama and himself:

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Madara had to work his way up and EVENTUALLY fought Hashirama, after achieving EMS and becoming the leader of the Uchiha. Not to mention Hashirama was at the top:

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Hashirama could control the Biju too:

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As shown when he took control away of Kurama from Madara and had control over it himself:

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Heck, Madara didn't even fight him in his "prime" because his prime was when he had multiple biju under his control:

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Madara's prime was undoubtedly when he had Kurama under his control. Yet Hashirama was past his prime at that point, because the multiple biju that he had under his control had already been distributed by himself. Not to mention even when Hashirama was past his prime Madara still recognized him as superior to himself. Unless you guys can show me something that counters this.

Otherwise, Hashirama's superior.

 

[Love Uchiha]

I've seen the pic of Hashirama after the battle and it dont seem like it was easy (dont feel like lookin 4 it) and mito was there to aid him GTFOH
You act like he could use Bijuu and battle he can surpress them not controll them

 

[zamki]

ofc

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

this again

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

Soo, basically, Hashirama was more of a boss than anyone would have even thought. To have a number of Bijuu under your control is S06P caliber. Impressive

 

[Omnipotent]

I've seen the pic of Hashirama after the battle and it dont seem like it was easy (dont feel like lookin 4 it) and mito was there to aid him GTFOH

You didn't read the thread.
Know your place.

Soo, basically, Hashirama was more of a boss than anyone would have even thought. To have a number of Bijuu under your control is S06P caliber. Impressive

He's no where near that caliber. The best way he could try to get CLOSE to that would become Kurama (the most powerful biju)'s jinchuuriki, and take Madara's DNA to get the rinnegan. And even then that wouldn't be enough. At all.

 

[BlueSky Garrett]

Edo madara is an undead zombie. Hashirama is life itself, Hashirama is matter and energy itself. And zombie uchiha could only dream of defeating Hashirama Senju or his borther the Space Time God; Tobirama Senju.

 

[FleeOnSight]

I've seen the pic of Hashirama after the battle and it dont seem like it was easy (dont feel like lookin 4 it) and mito was there to aid him GTFOH
You act like he could use Bijuu and battle he can surpress them not controll them

You mad


Op I agree.

 

[Love Uchiha]

You didn't read the thread.
Know your place.

He's no where near that caliber. The best way he could try to get CLOSE to that would become Kurama (the most powerful biju)'s jinchuuriki, and take Madara's DNA to get the rinnegan. And even then that wouldn't be enough. At all.

You said he was past his prime because he got rid of the bijuu He can take the bijuu to battle with him but he can't controll them so saying he's past his prime because he didn't have the bijuu with is usless Kurama already took care of the bijuu with naruto anyways and Hashirama can not make the bijuu fight 4 him

 

[Love Uchiha]

You mad


Op I agree.

No not really Wbu

 

[NOemotions]

nice thread indeed.

 

[-Hatake-]

You said he was past him prime because he got rid of the bijuu He can take the bijuu to battle with him but he can't controll them so saying he's past his prime because he didn't have the bijuu with is usless Kurama already took care of the bijuu with naruto anyways and Hashirama can not make the bijuu fight 4 him

Dude, fix your grammer, I barely know what you're talking about.

 

[Love Uchiha]

Dude, fix your grammer, I barely know what you're talking about.

And do you think i care???? the post wasen't 4 you anyways

 

[Draphsin]

Its obvious he beats EMS madara but its not a large margin. And i dont think bijuu would help hashi cuz madara can just control them, it just depends if hashi can regain control or not, point being bijuu<Uchiha

 

[Omnipotent]

You said he was past him prime because he got rid of the bijuu He can take the bijuu to battle with him but he can't controll them so saying he's past his prime because he didn't have the bijuu with is usless Kurama already took care of the bijuu with naruto anyways and Hashirama can not make the bijuu fight 4 him

What?
He can't control the biju?
This just shows that you didn't read the thread...

"The only few who've achieved true control over biju... are Uchiha Madara and the First Hokage Hashirama... plus Fourth Mizukage Yagura... and Lord Raikage's younger brother, Killer Bee. That's about it.":

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The manga outright states he had multiple biju under his control at one time:

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How else did he take control over Kurama so Mito could seal it inside herself?:

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Read.

Its obvious he beats EMS madara but its not a large margin. And i dont think bijuu would help hashi cuz madara can just control them, it just depends if hashi can regain control or not, point being bijuu<Uchiha

Hashirama already took control of Kurama away from Madara, although I see your point as Madara should be able to do the same.

 

[mimihigurashi]

Doesn't everyone already know this? Way to put fuel on the fire.

 

[PretaPath]

Dude, fix your grammer, I barely know what you're talking about.

lawl

 

[OnPoint]

They were near equals and both children of the destiny, though Hashirama was marginally stronger. There wasn't tiers between them or anything of the sort. Both of them having statues at the End Valley is symbolic and shows that they were destined/eternal rivals.

 

[Love Uchiha]

What?
He can't control the biju?
This just shows that you didn't read the thread...

"The only few who've achieved true control over biju... are Uchiha Madara and the First Hokage Hashirama... plus Fourth Mizukage Yagura... and Lord Raikage's younger brother, Killer Bee. That's about it.":

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The manga outright states he had multiple biju under his control at one time:

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How else did he take control over Kurama so Mito could seal it inside herself?:

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Read.

Notice be and That Mizukage was in that neither of them can force a bijuu to fight against there will only Uchiha have this feat due to genjutsu and eye contact

Hashirama already took control of Kurama away from Madara, although I see your point as Madara should be able to do the same.

Notice be and That Mizukage was in that neither of them can force a bijuu to fight against there will only Uchiha have this feat due to genjutsu and eye contact And i already know Hashirama>Ems Madara but ur saying it like he blew him out with no comp

 

[natzzz]

u have changed my oponion about hashi.*****