hashirama's chakra level

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this has been wondering in my mind for some time people seem to be reluctent that current madara(edo) is weaker then hashi well let me offer some reasons why hashi is the only 1 that can stop madara
firstly i believe even when they fought the first time (hashi vs madara) madara had alot more chakra then hashi reasons for this sasunoo alone consumes alot of chakra ems or ms effects r the same so what i believe is that even now madara has unlimited chakra only hashi can stop him coz of hashi's wide array of jutsus think about it wood element is taking ur chakra and turning it into life force and hashi was a senju meaning he had alot of life force plus sealing jutsus dont require to much chakra as well as having a scroll with summons of weapons not forgeting that he could heal himself meaning his chakra control was insane he could a jutsu without over using chakra so my point is hashi had alot more jutsus then madara and they didnt require alot of chakra and they where effective
secondly to prove this i'ma use the 4th hokage as an example he didnt have alot of jutsus but the 1's he had made him a very dangerous opponent to face his ftg alone was feared let alone his rasengan he didnt seem like he had alot of chakra either but his intelligence and techs made up for his weaknesses
and coming to madara his the kind of person from what we've seen prefers brute force over intellegence meaning even if he was a genius he relied on techs that wasted chakra he seems more like sasuke they rather kill quick then have a genjutsu fight or test u out
which leads me to believe that hashi defeated madara coz of ideal techs rather then chakra level
 

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are u uys kidding me madara is immortal has rinengan now infinite chakra yah hashi will just walk up too him and seal him with a scroll riiiiiiighhhht
If he could woop Madaras ass when he was alive ... he sure as hell can do so now.. hell if anyone it Hashi who knows every single ability Madara can do . . . and again 1k+ seal techs in that scroll he does not need that scroll itself... he just needs to stall the fight long enough to get Madara into a trap of somesort for one of those seals since the seals in the scroll are said to be most powerful ever known in the manga by Uzumakis so yea >_>... that is the only reason WHY he CAN beat him .. but that does NOT mean that he WILL beat him sigh..
 
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i see u madara fans r on the defence then let me ask this what ability does madara have that hashi cannot counter?
their gonna say that hashirama cant counter madaras inferior mokuton and that he cant counter the meteor despite him defeating perfect susano which effortlessly turned the meteor to dust and madara stated that hashirama could also change the landscape like perfect susano.

now despite hashirama beating perfect susano which already destroyed madaras new techs without effort, they will claim that madaras weaker techs can kill him.
 
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