Hashirama was wrong, dead wrong.

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It seems you missed the point of that statement. Hashirama said that on principle, Itachi was a better ninja.

 

[Senju Bean]

I think that you have misunderstood what Hashi said.

No I didn't. I just disagree with the definition.

 

[Smd]

op is an alt troll act.

ot- stop trolling, he saved the manga the most.

thats why hashi praised him the most


and post the rest of the scans, they gave up cuz there leader was defeated and gone

 

[Senju Bean]

It seems you missed the point of that statement. Hashirama said that on principle, Itachi was a better ninja.

I didn't. I'm just pointing out the contradiction.

 

[scorezor]

and this is why you're stupid.

 

[Senju Bean]

op is an alt troll act.

ot- stop trolling, he saved the manga the most.

thats why hashi praised him the most

My threads are better than yours, so no I'm not a troll. Care to read? They're in my sig.

 

[Senju Bean]

and this is why you're stupid.

And yet, my threads are better than yours. So what does that make you?

 

[Tobby17]

he was talking about Itachi enduring a lot just for peace in Konoha. it's got ntn to do with power levels.

 

[Smd]

My threads are better than yours, so no I'm not a troll. Care to read? They're in my sig.

i dont make threads to be "better" than anyone, thats childish.

your definatly making a troll thread then if your not a troll

or

you just need to re read the manga and understand that itachi was the greatest shonbi in the manga saving his village the most out of anyone.


as well as killing his own family for it.

 

[Ovan]

Itachi did something that Hashirama couldn't do in which was in the ninja study guide.

 

[Senju Bean]

he was talking about Itachi enduring a lot just for peace in Konoha. it's got ntn to do with power levels.

Read the bottom of my thread. Its about contradiction.

 

[Senju Bean]

i dont make threads to be "better" than anyone, thats childish.

your definatly making a troll thread then if your not a troll

And what if I am? I'm still more insightful and analytical than you will ever be. Just read those threads. Trust me, you're in for a real treat. Especially the first one.

 

[Da Best Ever]

im agree with everyone else but i want to addres this power issue with the op...u talk as if itachi is weak, u do knw he was still a teenager then, i doubt hashirama had wood forest then, i knw itachi didnt have totsuka or yata at the time had he had them he could most definately put fear in them...but that wasnt the point, if he had put fear in them that would temporarily stop the coup, itachi knew that wouldnt work he knew the only way to stop them was to kill them

 

[Senju Bean]

im agree with everyone else but i want to addres this power issue with the op...u talk as if itachi is weak, u do knw he was still a teenager then, i doubt hashirama had wood forest then, i knw itachi didnt have totsuka or yata at the time had he had them he could most definately put fear in them...but that wasnt the point, if he had put fear in them that would temporarily stop the coup, itachi knew that wouldnt work he knew the only way to stop them was to kill them

I guess Hashi was wrong then. Instead of letting them surrender, he should have just crushed them with Shinsusenju.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I didn't. I'm just pointing out the contradiction.

It's not technically a contradiction as Hashirama WAS talking about morals and intent, he's not saying 'I could have done it better because I have these really big trees and people are scared of them', he's saying- 'wow, he has real balls and did something I could never do'

he's not putting himself in his situation and was probably just trying to stay on Sasuke's good side and show he has empathy for Uchiha unlike his less PC brother shouting about the damn Uchihas. Power literally does not come into it at all, even figuratively.

 

[adeshina365]

Power is but one element of "Shinobi".

 

[Senju Bean]

It's not technically a contradiction as Hashirama WAS talking about morals and intent, he's not saying 'I could have done it better because I have these really big trees and people are scared of them', he's saying- 'wow, he has real balls and did something I could never do'

he's not putting himself in his situation and was probably just trying to stay on Sasuke's good side and show he has empathy for Uchiha unlike his less PC brother shouting about the damn Uchihas. Power literally does not come into it at all, even figuratively.

I guess Hashi was just way too powerful to be a good "Shinobi" then. Kinda funny how there is an inverse relation between the two.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I guess Hashi was just way too powerful to be a good "Shinobi" then. Kinda funny how there is an inverse relation between the two.

There's a little more to solving political genocidal feuds than 'IM GOING TO GO BEAT UP THOSE GUYS IF THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IM HASHI F*CKING AMA'

hashirama was being figurative and so this statement is purely figurative.

 

[jinxedsince1984]

hashirama sealed and imprisoned all the bijuu's.while he took his time deciding whether to kill madara his buddy killed by the plenty.itachi got to the point and ended a war by killin off the remaining uchiha.itachi should've done more for konoha during the current war but dude wasn't perfect. hashirama was right.i don't know exactly how he knew details on itachi when hashirama died generations ago

 

[Senju Bean]

There's a little more to solving political genocidal feuds than 'IM GOING TO GO BEAT UP THOSE GUYS IF THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IM HASHI F*CKING AMA'

hashirama was being figurative and so this statement is purely figurative.

You don't know what I'm getting. Hashi will never be a better "Shinobi" than Itachi because he is just too strong to be forced to make the same sacrifices.

So in a sense, that definition is riduculous because, the stronger you are, the less you have to sacrifice.