Hashirama vs Itachi and Sasuke

[TobisPawn]

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itachi isnt catching any kage level ninjas in finger genjutsu. why did he not do this to tobi, the man he wanted to kill. all he had to do was point a finger at him.

...Tobi =/ Hashirama. And even without the finger Genjutsu, the bros would win.

sasukes susano arrows arent covered in amaterasu. hashirama would just make a tree come from his arm to divert them.

He can cover them in Blaze Release. And how will Hashirama deflect them if he won't see them coming? Itachi can easily distract him, while Sasuke takes him out with a Blaze Release Arrow.

the conditions at the uchiha hideout were perfect for kirin. sasuke isnt prepping shit on a random spot in a battlefield.

You're telling me two MS users using Katon and Amaterasu won't generate enough heat? Fail.

hashirama would outlast itachis izanami. congratulations itachi just lost his sharingan for no reason and the chances for the uchiha bros to beat hashirama is wayyy lower than it was at the beginning.

LOL way to assume something because you have no counter to the argument. This shows you already lost the argument.

now lets get to the most LOL worthy part of your post. you say susano(excluding madaras final susano)protects the feet.

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now all hashirama has to do is spawn mokuton under itachi and sasukes feet. yes mokuton is restraining susano whether you like it or not. mokuton would restrain its arms(the things that carry susano swords)to prevent it from slashing branches. you need to realize that 100% kurama is far stronger than susano in raw power. mokuton doesnt suppress tailed beasts the moment it touches them. you actually have to restrain them first. that part is obvious. also you want me to give evidence of mokuton coming from the ground. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. one more thing, amaterasu couldnt burn the forest around the uchiha hideout but you think its incinerating mokuton LOL. amaterasu wouldnt be able to incinerate an entire forest that is bigger than a meteor anyway.

Fail. Sasuke can summon a hawk or two for both the bros to avoid Mokuton. And Blaze Release around Susanoo can instantly get rid of any Mokuton binding Susanoo.

LOL Mokuton binding a Susanoo can easily be extinguished by Blaze Release. That's a way less amount to burn then a whole forest, which Itachi wasn't even aiming to burn. And there's TWO MS users. They don't need to incinerate a whole forest. They distract and hit Hashirama with either Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Blaze Release Arrows, or Kirin.

Madara's Mokuton >>>> Hashirama's Mokuton size and power-wise.

 

[narutownsyouall]

and you link incomplete susanno?

you ask why he didn't use it on tobi?

honestly?what's wrong with you? do you read the manga?

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1) Sharingan can see through genjutsu
2) did itachi want to fight tobi? He was dieing of sickness and taking medication to prolong his life, you think he wanted to fight tobi? when he inteded on dieing by sasuke's hands?
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-_- You realize moukotoun can supress bijuu chakra right? Moukoton itself can be cut as seen with moukoton.. And sasuke broke it with his chidori, try again

Yea , cause you totally diidn't see sasuke susanno arrow zetsu and set him on fire
maybe you need a reminder

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Out last his izanami? wtf are you talking about? at the cost of an eye itachi puts you in loop... Just like kabuto is just standing there, Sasuke can easily slice his head off right now.. try again


Conditions were perfect for kirin? what shit are you spewing now? The hideout was just a hideout.... Itachi used amaterasu which began heating the air, then sasuke used a katon.. there you go.. kirin


Once again, you try so hard to ignore itachi's finger genjutsu and dusk crow genjutsu, with fail speculation that they are low level, yet itachi got caught in tayuyas "lowlevel" genjutsu

1. Show us where finger gen beats a kage
2.Sasuke can do some awsome things with chidori but he is not taking an entire forst on with just chidori.

That was not a susanoo arrow it was a sword.

How is he getting close enough for Izanami?

 

[TobisPawn]

1. Show us where finger gen beats a kage
2.Sasuke can do some awsome things with chidori but he is not taking an entire forst on with just chidori.

That was not a susanoo arrow it was a sword.

How is he getting close enough for Izanami?

1. Show us where Hashirama can counter two MS users' (at the same time) Genjutsu.

2. With Kirin, he is. And with Itachi w/Amaterasu as backup, he is.

Again, YOU DON'T NEED TO GET "CLOSE" FOR MS TECHS. You have no proof for that.

 

[TheSages456]

and you link incomplete susanno?

you ask why he didn't use it on tobi?

honestly?what's wrong with you? do you read the manga?

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1) Sharingan can see through genjutsu
2) did itachi want to fight tobi? He was dieing of sickness and taking medication to prolong his life, you think he wanted to fight tobi? when he inteded on dieing by sasuke's hands?
sigh

-_- You realize moukotoun can supress bijuu chakra right? Moukoton itself can be cut as seen with moukoton.. And sasuke broke it with his chidori, try again

Yea , cause you totally diidn't see sasuke susanno arrow zetsu and set him on fire
maybe you need a reminder

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Out last his izanami? wtf are you talking about? at the cost of an eye itachi puts you in loop... Just like kabuto is just standing there, Sasuke can easily slice his head off right now.. try again


Conditions were perfect for kirin? what shit are you spewing now? The hideout was just a hideout.... Itachi used amaterasu which began heating the air, then sasuke used a katon.. there you go.. kirin


Once again, you try so hard to ignore itachi's finger genjutsu and dusk crow genjutsu, with fail speculation that they are low level, yet itachi got caught in tayuyas "lowlevel" genjutsu

the way you talk about it it wouldnt even be a fight. using your logic itachi would just catch tobi in finger genjutsu and totsuka seal him. also seeing through genjutsu is far from breaking it.

why are you talking about yamatos mokuton. there is no way you are comparing yamatos mokuton to hashiramas. alright thank you for telling me how izanami works. once itachi wastes his eyes using it on a mokuton clone he gets killed.

that was an amaterasu sword. its gets dealt with the same way hashirama deals with totsuka. he would restrain susanos arms with mokuton. sasukes amaterasu yasaka magatamas get blocked by a wood walls. the uchiha hideout was on a mountain. sasuke isnt prepping kirin. he couldve done this against danzo or killer bee. you act like he could use kirin anytime he wants to.

 

[TobisPawn]

the way you talk about it it wouldnt even be a fight. using your logic itachi would just catch tobi in finger genjutsu and totsuka seal him. also seeing through genjutsu is far from breaking it.

why are you talking about yamatos mokuton. there is no way you are comparing yamatos mokuton to hashiramas. alright thank you for telling me how izanami works. once itachi wastes his eyes using it on a mokuton clone he gets killed.

that was an amaterasu sword. its gets dealt with the same way hashirama deals with totsuka. he would restrain susanos arms with mokuton. sasukes amaterasu yasaka magatamas get blocked by a wood walls. the uchiha hideout was on a mountain. sasuke isnt prepping kirin. he couldve done this against danzo or killer bee. you act like he could use kirin anytime he wants to.

Sasuke can use Blaze Release around Susanoo, no arms required. And you act like the bros will just stand around. Sasuke can summon hawks for them to fly one.

Madara's Mokuton >> Hashirama's Mokuton >>>> Yamato's Mokuton.

And you realize that Kirin will be prepping the whole time, with Amaterasu and Katon being constantly used? Hell, Sasuke can go on a hawk and shoot fireballs into the air.

 

[LegendaryAce]

i am a super hashi fan ..but to beat 2 uchihas he needs to be genjustu proof...ameterasu proof... i dont see him winning at all ...unless he trolls them and activates his long lost rinnegan and ems and summons juubi lol ..i joke i joke i kid i kid

 

[TobisPawn]

i am a super hashi fan ..but 2 beat to uchihas he needs to be genjustu proof...ameterasu proof... i dont see him winning at all ...unless he trolls them and activates his long lost rinnegan and ems and summons juubi lol ..i joke i joke i kid i kid

The first person who isn't overrating Hashirama in this thread, and still likes Hashirama. I applaud you, sir.

 

[Owarij]

i am a super hashi fan ..but 2 beat to uchihas he needs to be genjustu proof...ameterasu proof... i dont see him winning at all ...unless he trolls them and activates his long lost rinnegan and ems and summons juubi lol ..i joke i joke i kid i kid

never thought i'd see a logical hashirama fan on this forum

 

[TheSages456]

...Tobi =/ Hashirama. And even without the finger Genjutsu, the bros would win.
no they dont

He can cover them in Blaze Release. And how will Hashirama deflect them if he won't see them coming? Itachi can easily distract him, while Sasuke takes him out with a Blaze Release Arrow.

he makes 25 mokuton clones. 13 for itachi and 12 for sasuke. there you go. hashirama just countered any "surprise attacks"

You're telling me two MS users using Katon and Amaterasu won't generate enough heat? Fail.

while they are distracted setting kirins conditions, they get put to sleep by the flower tree world

LOL way to assume something because you have no counter to the argument. This shows you already lost the argument.

you lost the argument the moment you said hashirama is getting beaten by finger genjutsu

Fail. Sasuke can summon a hawk or two for both the bros to avoid Mokuton. And Blaze Release around Susanoo can instantly get rid of any Mokuton binding Susanoo.

hashirama merges with his trees and leaves a clone out. when the hawk flies near a branch, hashirama comes out of the branch, grows wood from his arm and smack sasuke and itachi in range of the pollen

LOL Mokuton binding a Susanoo can easily be extinguished by Blaze Release. That's a way less amount to burn then a whole forest, which Itachi wasn't even aiming to burn. And there's TWO MS users. They don't need to incinerate a whole forest. They distract and hit Hashirama with either Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Blaze Release Arrows, or Kirin.

Madara's Mokuton >>>> Hashirama's Mokuton size and power-wise.

hashiramas mokuton is just as big as madaras in this panel:

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[TobisPawn]

hashiramas mokuton is just as big as madaras in this panel:

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Look at the amount of tree stumps Madara's has in the panel you posted. And:

Hashirama's Mokuton:

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Madara's Mokuton (SAME TECH):

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[LegendaryAce]

The first person who isn't overrating Hashirama in this thread, and still likes Hashirama. I applaud you, sir.

never thought i'd see a logical hashirama fan on this forum

Not saying they will take him out easy though..will take alot to take out hashirama but you do have a guy who is so into his genjutsu he pushed his genjutsu skills so far i think would be hard for hashi to break out,susano,the blade and shield ect ..and you also got izanami now lol...also you got sasuke with ems ..amaterasu spamming, susano, manda...kirin ..( by healthy i assume itachi can use KA too?) ...its too hard to beat 2 of them ( sorry all hashi fans)

 

[TobisPawn]

Not saying they will take him out easy though..will take alot to take out hashirama but you do have a guy who is so into his genjutsu he pushed his genjutsu skills so far i think would be hard for hashi to break out,susano,the blade and shield ect ..and you also got izanami now lol...also you got sasuke with ems ..amaterasu spamming, susano, manda...kirin ..( by healthy i assume itachi can use KA too?) ...its too hard to beat 2 of them ( sorry all hashi fans)

Agreed.

TBH, without Izanami it'd be mid-high difficulty for the bros, but Izanami wins it anyway.

 

[TheSages456]

Look at the amount of tree stumps Madara's has in the panel you posted. And:

Hashirama's Mokuton:

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Madara's Mokuton (SAME TECH):

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im not talking about the nerfed part 1 hashirama. the hashirama in this pic has mokuton just as big as madaras:

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[Owarij]

Agreed.

TBH, without Izanami it'd be mid-high difficulty for the bros, but Izanami wins it anyway.

Yup, there is no way they can argue that this fight won't last 5mins... And that;s all that's needed to pull of a izanami win

 

[TobisPawn]

im not talking about the nerfed part 1 hashirama. the hashirama in this pic has mokuton just as big as madaras:

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Alright, maybe each individual branch is as big, but judging from the number of stumps Madara has in that panel, I doubt Hashirama can recreate the shear size of it overall.


And still, Izanami, if not the other stuff I've been posting, wins this.

Yup, there is no way they can argue that this fight won't last 5mins... And that;s all that's needed to pull of a izanami win

Pretty much. Hashirama has no counter to Izanami, seeing that eye contact isn't required.

 

[TheSages456]

Yup, there is no way they can argue that this fight won't last 5mins... And that;s all that's needed to pull of a izanami win

when hashirama makes 25 mokuton clones, then itachi only has a 4% chance of hitting the real hashirama.

 

[TobisPawn]

when hashirama makes 25 mokuton clones, then itachi only has a 4% chance of hitting the real hashirama.

Not if Sasuke takes out the clones with Kirin...and not if Itachi and Sasuke can see through his clones, like Madara was able too.

 

[Owarij]

when hashirama makes 25 mokuton clones, then itachi only has a 4% chance of hitting the real hashirama.

If, and that's a big IF, hashirama can do that feat...

This is edo madara, who has madara's chakra + hashirama's chakra + kabuto's chakra,

And even then a 25 split clone will not be anywhere as strong as the original and would all get taken out easily


I also love when you say bringer of darkness, and i say itachi reverses it on him, you give no explanation as to how hashi gets out of it , you seem to like ignoring anything about genjutsu don't you?

 

[TheSages456]

Not if Sasuke takes out the clones with Kirin...and not if Itachi and Sasuke can see through his clones, like Madara was able too.

when sasuke and itachi are distracted prepping kirin, they get put to sleep by the flower tree world. you also have no proof that itachi or sasuke can see through the clones.

 

[TobisPawn]

when sasuke and itachi are distracted prepping kirin, they get put to sleep by the flower tree world. you also have no proof that itachi or sasuke can see through the clones.

Kirin will be auto-prepped with all of the Amaterasus flying around.

And Madara was the only known EMS/MS user who fought Hashirama, and Sasuke has the EMS, and Itachi has the MS.