Hashirama vs Itachi and Sasuke

[Owarij]

i didnt say he would look into their eyes. he is looking at the bottom half of their face. hashirama can still counter amaterasu without looking in their eyes. he could just sprout wood from the part of his body thats on fire then heal himself from any damage.

?

You can't possibly look at someone and see their moth cheeks etc, and not their eye,
Go ahead, try it with a family member

part of his body thats on fire then heal himself from any damagE

Wood? you realize wood is highly flammable? he'd be making it spread more and easier

So now why are you claiming Tsukuyomi can be countered this same way in other thread where you have to change your opinion, then here act like it's invincible? You have to have 1 opinion, not making too much sense here sir

God , sigh, you're so unintelligent it hurts me..
DOES HASHIRAMA know itachi has tsukyomi? DOES hashirama know itachi has amaterasu?
How is this similar to the other thread in ANY way?
gtfo

 

[Joki]

?

You can't possibly look at someone and see their moth cheeks etc, and not their eye,
Go ahead, try it with a family member

Already countered this part in my post

Wood? you realize wood is highly flammable? he'd be making it spread more and easier

Regular wood =/= Mokuton which is a KG of mixing Earth and Water nature, key word water here. Also meaning to detach the wood, and if they try to use Amaterasu on his Mokuton he'll simply move it on them and spread it to them, they'll either be forced to put it out or burn themselves to death with it

God , sigh, you're so unintelligent it hurts me..
DOES HASHIRAMA know itachi has tsukyomi? DOES hashirama know itachi has amaterasu?
How is this similar to the other thread in ANY way?
gtfo

Will he see the sharingan? Will he see MS? Is his name Itachi Uchiha? Will Blood seep from eyes? Can Hashirama perform 1 handsign before blood seeps and pressure builds? Since when has Tsukuyomi been effective when someone battled and entire war with Uchiha and fought an EMS user? (find out next time, on Dragon Ball Z) What is Itachi going to do against an entire forest being dropped on him..I guess nothing since you're continually ignoring it and trying to key on Tsukuyomi as if it will work on Hashirama or the forest surrounding Itachi won't kill him. So by all possible means you have to prevent a counter for Tsukuyomi or else he dies, is what it comes down to. And we can't have Itachi losing

 

[TheSages456]

?

You can't possibly look at someone and see their moth cheeks etc, and not their eye,
Go ahead, try it with a family member



Wood? you realize wood is highly flammable? he'd be making it spread more and easier




God , sigh, you're so unintelligent it hurts me..
DOES HASHIRAMA know itachi has tsukyomi? DOES hashirama know itachi has amaterasu?
How is this similar to the other thread in ANY way?
gtfo

hashirama is pushing the flames off by sprouting wood from his body. at the maximum this will take a few seconds. in the itachi vs sasuke fight, when itachi used amaterasu it went into the forest and it didnt even spread quickly. it stayed in ring around the uchiha hideout.

 

[Owarij]

Oh god. first this guy says hashirama won't look at his eyes

then he's saying

Will he see the sharingan? Will he see MS? Is his name Itachi Uchiha? Will Blood seep from eyes?

I have no idea what this man is even saying anymore


hashirama is pushing the flames off by sprouting wood from his body. at the maximum this will take a few seconds. in the itachi vs sasuke fight, when itachi used amaterasu it went into the forest and it didnt even spread quickly. it stayed in ring around the uchiha hideout.[/QUOTE]
Because it hit like a tree or something and was just there burning on the ground..

? because amaterasu doesn't really work like that.. if it was cast and hit a tree, that's it's target, it will burn on its target for however long..... It will not necessarily spread..

When amaterasu touches hashirama, whether it's on his face or not,
Not only is he open to another amaterasu or susanno arrow from sasuke

but the wood coming out of his flesh will also be on fire, and it's connected to him, so it will spread


Also, what's stopping hashirama from getting finger genjtusu'd , then while he's in it breaking it, susanno arrowed or something?

 

[Joki]

Oh god. first this guy says hashirama won't look at his eyes

then he's saying


I have no idea what this man is even saying anymore

>quotes 1 sentence in post
>ignores rest of post because he has no counter

I was going by your logic. You claim he'll just blindly stare into his eyes so even if that's the case, his knowledge of Uchiha suddenly disappears when all the prep time for the MS jutsu to activate?

 

[Owarij]

>quotes 1 sentence in post
>ignores rest of post because he has no counter

I was going by your logic. You claim he'll just blindly stare into his eyes so even if that's the case, his knowledge of Uchiha suddenly disappears when all the prep time for the MS jutsu to activate?

What? If he's staring at his eyes throughout the fight, he's dead by itachi

that's simple , irrefutable..

I recommend you use the other defence, maybe look at his feet or something, because as i said, you can't look at someones cheek and not have their eyes etc in your peripheral vision

Not that you even know he'll be cheek watching... considering that's wishful thinking..
Hashirama's method for fighting senju's could be watching feat, or waist.. you have no idea

It's wishful thinking that you would want him to look at cheeks to see amaterasu, but you have no reasonable basis for that don't you?

What is Itachi going to do against an entire forest being dropped on him..I guess nothing since you're continually ignoring it and trying to key on Tsukuyomi as if it will work on Hashirama or the forest surrounding Itachi won't kill him. So by all possible means you have to prevent a counter for Tsukuyomi or else he dies, is what it comes down to. And we can't have Itachi losing

There won't be a forest if you can't counter their attacks at the beggining won't their?
and itachi has susanno and totsuka sword.. sasuke has a susanno also..

But were able to cut right through kimmiamaro's iron hard bones
Your wood has no power here sir

 

[TheSages456]

What? If he's staring at his eyes throughout the fight, he's dead by itachi

that's simple , irrefutable..

I recommend you use the other defence, maybe look at his feet or something, because as i said, you can't look at someones cheek and not have their eyes etc in your peripheral vision

yeah i dont think hashirama can get caught in genjutsu from seeing the ms in his peripheral vision. people that fight uchihas always say "dont look directly into their eyes".

 

[Owarij]

yeah i dont think hashirama can get caught in genjutsu from seeing the ms in his peripheral vision. people that fight uchihas always say "dont look directly into their eyes".

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Not every scan says directly.. If you can see his eyes, you are looking at it, even if non intentionally

This is why, gai , asuma etc don't just look at his cheeks, it would still get them killed.. you have to look at feet , hands, anything that you don't see their eyes

 

[Champ]

If Sasuke go airborne on his hawk and fire off his Susanoo Arrows how will Hashirama hit him?

 

[TheSages456]

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Not every scan says directly.. If you can see his eyes, you are looking at it, even if non intentionally

This is why, gai , asuma etc don't just look at his cheeks, it would still get them killed.. you have to look at feet , hands, anything that you don't see their eyes

deidara stared directly into itachis eyes trying to figure out what was happening:

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[Owarij]

deidara stared directly into itachis eyes trying to figure out what was happening:

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Obviously he did, every human makes eye contact
It's a first instinct unless you have a severe case of anti socialness

 

[TheSages456]

Obviously he did, every human makes eye contact
It's a first instinct unless you have a severe case of anti socialness

well hashirama wont do what deidara did obviously. you cant get caught in genjutsu by seeing the sharingan in your peripheral vision.

 

[Owarij]

well hashirama wont do what deidara did obviously. you cant get caught in genjutsu by seeing the sharingan in your peripheral vision.

Yes you can, kisame never even said directly in it..You're looking at it, if you're looking at it. .if i can see something, i can say i am looking at it...

iF You could just look at their mouth etc, asuma/ kurenai wouldn't have closed their eyes

gai etc wouldn't be looking at his feet... it's not that simple
You can;t look at his face

 

[TobisPawn]

I'll reply to these posts when I get home.

 

[TheSages456]

Yes you can, kisame never even said directly in it..You're looking at it, if you're looking at it. .if i can see something, i can say i am looking at it...

iF You could just look at their mouth etc, asuma/ kurenai wouldn't have closed their eyes

gai etc wouldn't be looking at his feet... it's not that simple
You can;t look at his face

hashirama doesnt seem to have any trouble here:

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[Owarij]

hashirama doesnt seem to have any trouble here:

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from that scan hashirama doesn't even look like he's looking at madara.. at the side of him more like it..

 

[TheSages456]

from that scan hashirama doesn't even look like he's looking at madara.. at the side of him more like it..

thats how genjutsu is avoided and amaterasu is countered at the same time. he can see the blood coming down their face for amaterasu but not get caught in genjutsu. he doesnt need to look at them to counter amaterasu anyway.

 

[Eran Uchiha]

Hashirama has fought Uchihas in the past and beaten them........however, all his weaknesses were recorded in scrolls its likely Itachi got a hold of those scrolls and made good use of them

 

[Owarij]

thats how genjutsu is avoided and amaterasu is countered at the same time. he can see the blood coming down their face for amaterasu but not get caught in genjutsu. he doesnt need to look at them to counter amaterasu anyway.

Hashirama isn't even looking at madara ... he's staring somewhere at the side of his face.... how would he be seeing blood dripping...
As is aid, it was never stated really if you get caught in it from peripheral vision.. Nothing has been stated against it..

However if what you are saying was true, then doing that wouldn't have upset asuma and kurenai's fighting in any way.. Watching someone's face at least for most is the important thing.. when you can't do that, you fight weird...


And do note this entire argument thus far, has only been about Itachi vs hashirama..
i Haven't even brought sasuke into this, who has undodgeable susanno arrows, amaterasu and tsukyomi also..

 

[TheSages456]

Hashirama isn't even looking at madara ... he's staring somewhere at the side of his face.... how would he be seeing blood dripping...
As is aid, it was never stated really if you get caught in it from peripheral vision.. Nothing has been stated against it..

However if what you are saying was true, then doing that wouldn't have upset asuma and kurenai's fighting in any way.. Watching someone's face at least for most is the important thing.. when you can't do that, you fight weird...


And do note this entire argument thus far, has only been about Itachi vs hashirama..
i Haven't even brought sasuke into this, who has undodgeable susanno arrows, amaterasu and tsukyomi also..

now that we know that hashirama wont get caught in genjutsu and susano is restrained by mokuton lets move on to sasuke with his undodgeable arrows. countering the arrows wouldnt require any effort of hashiramas part. he would make 1 mokuton tree to redirect its course. sasuke may be a little more tricky to fight due to enton but as stated hashirama can just sprout wood from his body. hashirama can just use mokuton under sasuke and itachis susano, pull them out and force them to inhale the pollen from the flower tree world.