Hashirama the worst Hokage

[mustafagrbz]

So after the last manga chapter everyone either hates Tobirama or Madara.I think this is just ridiculous.

If you look at the Uchiha side Madara is %100 right in his cause and if you look at the Senju side Tobirama is %100

right.Madara was totally right about his thoughts of Tobirama being the 2nd Hokage and discriminate the Uchiha also

Tobirama was totally right about his thoughts of Madara being still full of hate after his brothers death.The only one

who acted like silly child was Hashirama.He should have killed Madara on that rock.He should have seen what Madara

would be capable of with all that power he has.He should at least try to understand what Madara went through with his

all brothers death and his clansmen distrust of him.After being into all that war and hate he should have understood

that his childhood dream was childish.The only one to blame here is Hashirama.(sorry for typing and bad english btw)

 

[mustafagrbz]

Also i dont think Madara is just pure 'evil' neither Sasuke.If there is a pure evil character in this manga the man is definetely Orochimaru.He should be the final villain he deserves it

 

[Prince Charles]

Hashirama the worst hokage? Funny i think you ment hiruzen.

 

[Almighty Ra]

It is true he messed up not killing him but he still considered him his childhood friend..it was his error not stopping him before but in the last battle in the Valley of the end he had to end Madara..It doesn't make him the worst Hokage but he loved his friend even though he turned evil

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Sometimes I wonder who the elder brother really is between Hashirama and Tobirama Lol

 

[Carlhens]

They were friends he couldn't just kill just like Naruto and Sasuke case

 

[God Madara]

Also i dont think Madara is just pure 'evil' neither Sasuke.If there is a pure evil character in this manga the man is definetely Orochimaru.He should be the final villain he deserves it

Naaah. Orochimaru is just filled up with hate xD don't forget he was a good boi as kid xD

 

[mustafagrbz]

I am not talking about power-wise but decision making,leadership wise

 

[mustafagrbz]

After all of lives he was responsible for he should have put friendship aside like Naruto is trying to remember he said if Sasuke goes against Konoha he will have to stop him even if it means killing him which also Itachi tried to teach this to Naruto

 

[Untung]

If hashirama is the worst hokage then let me ask you, can you forgive the clan who kill your brother?? 5 adult again 1 boy?? But hashirama can forgive uchiha clan....he chose to death for peace than to conquer, he chose the wise path than the power path

 

[Hoshi]

Also i dont think Madara is just pure 'evil' neither Sasuke.If there is a pure evil character in this manga the man is definetely Orochimaru.He should be the final villain he deserves it

Characters aren't evil just for the sake of it... Every character that is evil that I know of has a reason to be evil...

OT: I completely agree, but Hashirama is trying to change madara's heart, like naruto try's to change sasuke's heart... But it seems like it won't work.

I mean, can't you see the parallel there? Hashi = Naruto and Sasuke = Madara

 

[mustafagrbz]

well peace is not a one-sided thing you know.He wished,hoped for peace but he should have been more realistic like Tobirama and should have seen that coming,have try to see things not as friend of Madara but a leader of Senju thats im trying to say

 

[mustafagrbz]

Characters aren't evil just for the sake of it... Every character that is evil that I know of has a reason to be evil...

OT: I completely agree, but Hashirama is trying to change madara's heart, like naruto try's to change sasuke's heart... But it seems like it won't work.

I mean, can't you see the parallel there? Hashi = Naruto and Sasuke = Madara

you are right on the spot. This is why I dont think Sasuke is also evil also it is sad to see that history repeating itself

 

[S A G E]

Tobirama is wiser than Hashirama. He died by sacrificing himself to save Hiruzen and Danzou.
Hiruzen and Minato died as a hero, preventing the leafs destruction.
Tsunade almost died healing everyone in Konoha during pain invasion.
Danzou died trying to eliminate major villains like Sasuke and Obito for the sake of the leaf.
And what about Hashirama?
Hashirama almost died by suicide!?
I'm agreeing with you on this one dude.

 

[mustafagrbz]

Tobirama is wiser than Hashirama. He died by sacrificing himself to save Hiruzen and Danzou.
Hiruzen and Minato died as a hero, preventing the leafs destruction.
Tsunade almost died healing everyone in Konoha during pain invasion.
Hashirama almost died by suicide!?
I'm agreeing with you on this one dude.

lol nice point there

 

[LeEvilTongue]

I know what you mean, but you can't blame a guy for trying. But the sad reality is that every human can't see the world in the same way.

 

[Yatori]

Tobirama is wiser than Hashirama. He died by sacrificing himself to save Hiruzen and Danzou.
Hiruzen and Minato died as a hero, preventing the leafs destruction.
Tsunade almost died healing everyone in Konoha during pain invasion.
Danzou died trying to eliminate major villains like Sasuke and Obito for the sake of the leaf.
And what about Hashirama?
Hashirama almost died by suicide!?
I'm agreeing with you on this one dude.

Too good to be true :flowers

 

[neilson]

its not like it was his fault he was persuaded! its very obvious

 

[adnan 2004]

Hashirama the worst hokage? Funny i think you ment hiruzen.

yes i agree with this hiruzen is the worst hokage

 

[TrollingSage]

Tobirama is wiser than Hashirama. He died by sacrificing himself to save Hiruzen and Danzou.
Hiruzen and Minato died as a hero, preventing the leafs destruction.
Tsunade almost died healing everyone in Konoha during pain invasion.
Danzou died trying to eliminate major villains like Sasuke and Obito for the sake of the leaf.
And what about Hashirama?
Hashirama almost died by suicide!?
I'm agreeing with you on this one dude.

Yes Hiruzen died a hero, after letting a stone cold killer who experimented on children and destroyed countless lives walk free because he was his student. After watching idly whilst a whole clan was slaughtered. After letting kumo push the hidden leaf around. Yep Hiruzen was definitely a better kage than Hashirama.