Hashirama-sama

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Just to put this out there, I haven't seen Hashirama as a god in NV all these time. The guy is basically the Kaguya of his time, born with extraordinary power, no one could challenge him (man or beast or both lol). The guy mastered most forms of jutsus and took them to quite a level. Ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, fuinjutsu, kenjutsu and other great forms he mastered and is an expert in most to all of them. Only hokage to master senjutsu (thanks to ashura) until naruto (who isn't on his level if you take out all bijuu).

Hashirama had several to all bijuus as pets during his time except for shukaku. He distributed them to other villages to make peace with them. If he decided to seal them within himself then he would have been immortal, and akatsuki would be dealt with the moment they made themselves known. he would have raped the sand village and taken shukaku also and sealed it within himself if they caused any trouble. But even without going this far he still was the strongest of them all.

His gathering of senjutsu chakra from my point of view rivals kurama's. He did this in seconds and created a beast that negged PS and Kurama combined.

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Even in and out of sennin mode, he looks like a boss

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Summoning like a boss

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Catching a sword that could "shatter all of creation" like its child's play

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Catching bijuu damas like a boss and using it against the user

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Hashirama negs everyone except them ootsutsukis and I do mean Kaguya, Hagoromo and Hamura. Indra and Ahura and basically his ancestors so give them the respect. All others with the name are fodders before Hashirama-sama
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Sakura pwns neg, maybe low diff.</div>
 

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Actually Naruto without the bijuus is still stronger. But that's thanks to RSM, a gift from the Sage.
If you take out that too, then yeah, Hashirama is the greatest. It makes you wonder though, how
powerful he would have been if he had been the one with Kurama sealed in him and given RSM.
 

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Yup, no one naturally gets on Hashirama's level. For NV, Hashi had the most OP jutsus and defeated all his enemies without difficulty, and without a single borrowed power. Unbelievable! Doesn't look like an Ashura reincarnation at all. Such a soloist...

Domu tanks all physical attacks, except for lighting chakra coated ones, come at me.
^^^ Where did all of a sudden this Kakazu wanker descended?
 
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An to think we still don't know how truly OP Hashi was when alive. Heck Kishi didn't even show the full fight between Hashi and Madara at the Valley of the End. Hopefully Storm 4 remedies this and show us their whole fight ending with Madaras supposed death at the time.
 

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Actually Naruto without the bijuus is still stronger. But that's thanks to RSM, a gift from the Sage.
If you take out that too, then yeah, Hashirama is the greatest. It makes you wonder though, how
powerful he would have been if he had been the one with Kurama sealed in him and given RSM.
If you remove Kurama as well, then Hashirama is stronger than Naruto. SM Hashirama > RSM Naruto (without any Bijuu's chakra).

Yes, Naruto can counter and destroy Hashi's wood with dozens of clones, taijutsu (brute force) and powerful Senjutsu enhanced jutsus, but the pace of Hashi's wood and their growth rate is far to great to be taken down or simply stopped. Plus Shinsuusenju is too much of a beast to be taken down without Kurama. Simply having RSM isn't going to help.
 
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