Hashirama rumor?

[sage22]

Who started or got the ideas that hashirama is or was the strongest hokage? A lot of people say kishi changed his mind or whatever but where in the manga do anyone get the idea that hashirama was better than any other kage?
Can someone please give me some actually facts

 

[~Sky~]

Madara said Hashirama was the only one who could beat him.

Which makes Hashirama the best.

 

[sage22]

Madara said Hashirama was the only one who could beat him.

Which makes Hashirama the best.

Stfu all that means is hashirama was the only one who could beat Madara nothing else

 

[rolanmts]

Madara said Hashirama was the only one who could beat him.
Figures

Which makes Hashirama the best.

Figures

 

[UchihaKIng1256]

he is the strongest and the one who knows everything

 

[~Sky~]

Stfu all that means is hashirama was the only one who could beat Madara nothing else

Believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[sage22]

Believe whatever you want to believe.

Kid get out of here with that nonsense

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Madara stated it. Dan stated it. Hashi and Minato are the strongest Hokages.

 

[~Sky~]

Kid get out of here with that nonsense

Anything for you darling.

 

[sage22]

Madara stated it. Dan stated it. Hashi and Minato are the strongest Hokages.

Really where did any of these people make these statements.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Really where did any of these people make these statements.

I too would like to know this information.

 

[KingHashirama]

Only dead person whose stated to have any chance against Edo Madara. So its the manga who started it.

 

[sage22]

Only dead person whose stated to have any chance against Edo Madara. So its the manga who started it.

Sike you can leave now. I already seen someone prove you wrong in another thread similar topic.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sike you can leave now. I already seen someone prove you wrong in another thread similar topic.

Noone so far has proven me wrong. . Noone can match Hashirama's mokuton dragon.. not even the 9-tails.. so fail thread?

 

[GenKiDama]

honestly it's quite obvious he is the strongest kage, forget the part 1 BS his power has been stated to be like a fairytail, and numerous quotes from other characters stating his superiority, list can go on but don't care enough to explain

 

[sage22]

Noone so far has proven me wrong. . Noone can match Hashirama's mokuton dragon.. not even the 9-tails.. so fail thread?[/QUOTE

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That guy proved you wrong. Also this statement let's me know ur ignorant and talking to you would be a waste of time.

 

[Reaper]

Madara,enough proof for me

 

[sage22]

honestly it's quite obvious he is the strongest kage, forget the part 1 BS his power has been stated to be like a fairytail, and numerous quotes from other characters stating his superiority, list can go on but don't care enough to explain

Ok in all fairness since part 1 kishi has given hashirama a nice lil power up. But I asked for facts. The fact is in part 1 he let everyone know hiruzen was the strongest. Then he had hiruzen beat hashirama and tobirama. Not since part 2 even tho hashirama supposedly have these new powers but what facts do we have to prove he is stronger than tobirama? And to answer my own question their is NO FACTS to prove this just speculation.

 

[Reaper]

Ok in all fairness since part 1 kishi has given hashirama a nice lil power up. But I asked for facts. The fact is in part 1 he let everyone know hiruzen was the strongest. Then he had hiruzen beat hashirama and tobirama. Not since part 2 even tho hashirama supposedly have these new powers but what facts do we have to prove he is stronger than tobirama? And to answer my own question their is NO FACTS to prove this just speculation.

Hiruzen couldnt even kill oro

 

[sage22]

Madara,enough proof for me

Ok that's cool but what did madara say that proves that hashirama is or was the strongest kage. Cuz madara saying that hashirama was the only one who could beat him isn't proof.