Hashirama probably has all 5 elements

Does Hashirama have all 5 elements?


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Zetsus have the ability to mimic someone down to their chakra because of their unique traits which was conceived by Madara's experimentations.
 

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He didn't enter. Kishi just realized "Oh, crap, I need an excuse for the other shinobi to not fight Madara!" This unorganized entry is proof that he didn't plan on using Spiral Zetsu at first.





I stand corrected, but just because the creation process is yin-yang doesn't mean he added any other element into Zetsus in general. For instance, the only thing he mentioned he added was his will. He did not indicate that he altered the Zetsus' bodies.

He said he added his will specifically for Black Zetsu. Not the other ones. If they are In'Youton of Madara, then his power is divided among them. For example:

Mayfly [ ] [ ]. Madara and Zetsu can use.
Telepathic Communication [ ]. Madara displayed the same with Zetsu.

Its pretty obvious Madara can perform all of Zetsu's abilities since they are split parts of him. He altered their bodies through implanting Gedo Mazo's arfticals along with Hashirama's cells so he can increase their quality strength.
 

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Until we see Hashirama use it, he does not have it.
 

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haha I see Hashirama fans are jelly because Hiruzen surpassed Hashirama in every aspect.
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As I said before, don't generalize me with Hashi-wankers. I'm not even a fan of neither him nor Hiruzen. I just simply analyze the manga and report a possible finding that nobody thought of.


Be honest though. If base Hashirama can survive a TBB explosion, he can survive an all 5 element attack in SM.


He said he added his will specifically for Black Zetsu. Not the other ones. If they are In'Youton of Madara, then his power is divided among them. For example:

Mayfly [ ] [ ]. Madara and Zetsu can use.
Telepathic Communication [ ]. Madara displayed the same with Zetsu.

Its pretty obvious Madara can perform all of Zetsu's abilities since they are split parts of him. He altered their bodies through implanting Gedo Mazo's arfticals along with Hashirama's cells so he can increase their quality strength.

Pretty sure mayfly is a wood style technique. The shared ability is because they both imitate Hashirama. Telepathic communication indicates a mental alteration, not a physical one.
 
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Pretty sure mayfly is a wood style technique. The shared ability is because they both imitate Hashirama. Telepathic communication indicates a mental alteration, not a physical one.

No its not considering P1 Orochimaru can also use the Mayfly [ ], and P1 Orochimaru didn't possess Zetsu meaning he never had Hashirama's cells. So its not a Mokuton Jutsu. The rest has nothing to do with my point, since what I am saying is Madara's power is divided among them, so either physical or mental, they are weak versions of Madara.

Also, when you alter a physical material in the body, then you're altering the mental one as well.
 

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I don't think hashi can use all five elemental attacks
 

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actually a lot of people noticed that/didn't overlook it, can't say it's not possible :yeah:

there are more evidence to support this claim/theory than to deny it.

using the 5 elements could also be restricted to the Buddha statue, in other words even if the statue is made of wood, it could be one of it's unique abilities (no ordinary/typical wood release) but, either way this means that Hashi can unleash the furry of 5 elements (weather he can use it himself or through the statue).

anyways it's quite possible.
 

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everyone that bears the nickname god of shinobi has to have all the 5 types
 

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Hashirama obviously has it, if a clone can do it, then the original can do it for sure. Only illogical people deny that obvious truth, which are Hiruzen fapboys of course.

I'm just waiting for Madara to enter that scenery and shove a black rod up Hiruzen's 4sshole, I wonder what excuse Hiruzen fapboys will have then, I'm curious.

Hashirama was recently called the God of Shinobi by Orochimaru and Suigetsu infront of all the Hokages, and not 10 years ago. But this is something Hiruzen fapboys also can't see because their fingers are too far up their butts.
 

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Alright, everyone knows how Hiruzen can use all 5 elements, which is awesome. However, there's something that everyone's overlooking. It's the fact that spiral Zetsu can use all 5 elements through wood style.

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Now, Zetsu is made from Hashirama's cells. Therefore, he cannot have access to abilities that Hashirama couldn't posses. This implies that Hashirama himself has all 5 elements. He probably can use them through wood stye like Zetsu. This would actually support my theory that wood style is actually an imitation of the God tree as it produces all chakra and the users of it get all 5 elements.(black orbs, and no, contrary to popular belief, it is not yin-yang related) So in the same way, someone could use wood style to produce various natures in chakra.


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Doubt it, Wood jutsu is created from water and earth jutsu so it can't just give you the other elements because that's like saying 2 elements makes 1 new element that gives you all elements. The God tree was where all chakra comes from so Hashirama can't do what the God Tree can; also the God tree has it's Rinnegan+Sharingan eye and we know the Rinnegan gives you mastery of all elements. Being a clone doesn't mean they can't do what Hashirama can't, Zetsus were receiving power from the Gedo Medo which is the Juubi's power which have all elements and you can leran how to use other elements through training. Zetsu been around for at least 20+ years since Obito was about 13-14 when he was saved by Madara and they been alive longer than that.

Hashirama died around his 40's, maybe 50's but still looks young compared to Tsunade's real look (Wrinkley). Hashirama would have to learn how to create other elements via training but he lived in a time of constant war, it's amazing he learned water and earth then combined them to make wood. Hiruzen lived the longest of all Hokages and was highly intelligent and even knew how to make use of shadow clones so he might have did the clone training that speeds up his training. Kakashi told Naruto that he may have noticed how clones share experiences since he used it a lot but Naruto didn't. Hiruzen was called professor for his genius with knowledge of jutsus.
 

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Hashirama obviously has it, if a clone can do it, then the original can do it for sure. Only illogical people deny that obvious truth, which are Hiruzen fapboys of course.

I'm just waiting for Madara to enter that scenery and shove a black rod up Hiruzen's 4sshole, I wonder what excuse Hiruzen fapboys will have then, I'm curious.

Hashirama was recently called the God of Shinobi by Orochimaru and Suigetsu infront of all the Hokages, and not 10 years ago. But this is something Hiruzen fapboys also can't see because their fingers are too far up their butts.

Was Hashirama receiving power from the Gedo Medo which is the Juubi's body? You have to train to be able to use each element, Zetsu had nothing but time to do this while Hashirama went from being in a constant war to creating the village system. He already had Bijuus 2-9 at that point so there wasn't a reason to train at that point. He then gave all but Kurama away to try and create peace but died sometime after. Hiruzen is the longest reigning Hokage who was praise for having a high understanding of jutsu and received the name professor. In his old age Kabuto was talking about how Hiruzen was the strongest kage when there were kages like Oonoki, A, Mei and Gaara's dad (recently died).

Hashirama is still in his prime, he didn't die in a old weaken state like Madara or Hiruzen. Who would you call God of Shinobi, who is in the state of their strongest or someone in their old weaken state? I was like you saying how Hashirama is boss but someone made a post about Hiruzen that made me look back on Hiruzen facts. There were only talk of his Prime and even in his old state he was still considered the strongest kage.
 

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Earth and Water. Thats it.
 

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Anything that a zetsu can do hashirama can do much better!
 

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gedo mazou has all chakra types spiral zetsu got it from there, hashi didnt.
 

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Zetsu is Hashirama's clone.
Hashirama had wood style, so he's got Water + Earth right there.
I believe that when Zetsu "Feasts" on people ( and eats them lmao ) he does the same thing Kakuzu did, and more or less "Absorbs" their heart + Chakra nature.


Barring that, they are made from the Juubi, and the Juubi is the source of ALL chakra, so it's not odd for something made on/by it to use all Natures.
 

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Who needs elements when you can heal yourself and have super strength.
 

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No its not considering P1 Orochimaru can also use the Mayfly [ ], and P1 Orochimaru didn't possess Zetsu meaning he never had Hashirama's cells. So its not a Mokuton Jutsu. The rest has nothing to do with my point, since what I am saying is Madara's power is divided among them, so either physical or mental, they are weak versions of Madara.

Also, when you alter a physical material in the body, then you're altering the mental one as well.
First of all I am not convinced that's mayfly Orochimaru is using. Secondly Orochimaru experimented a lot with Hashirama's cells. How do you know he hadn't implanted some of Hashi's cells or copied some of his abilities.
Also Yamato wood clones can use mayfly as well. It's a mokuton ability, no use trying to deny it.
 

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Hashirama's wood and the Shinju are strongly connected.
Gedo Mazou = Shinju
Are you comparing some wood construct to an actual living body of true god of NV?
Its like saying hashirama = fodder zetsu in everything.
 
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