Hashirama or Nagato?

[Fighter2011]

As far as i know RINNEGAN>sharingan....

Nagato chakra reserves are insane, what does ems madara have that can solo nagato?

People are really understimating nagato here...

Perfect Susanoo destroys anything Nagato can do. Same goes for Shinsusenjuu. Nagato does not stand a chance against either of them

 

[Gerkak]

hashirama wins. He is the most powerful in the manga aside from the sage and obito until proven otherwise.

 

[Jukain]

Hashirama wins. No question. Nagato doesn't even beat Madara. No way is he beating Hashirama.

Even if Hashirma wins which is debatable, its with extreme difficulty. this base underestimates Nagato so much. bansho tenin allows him to toss anyone around like a rag.

Saying Hashi doesn't need SM against the only 100% Rinnegan user is underrating Nagato so much.

Hashirama wins by a large margin, but it's due to SM.

how does he win by a large margin? he may win with extreme diff

hashirama effortlessly murders him in base.

huuuh the idiots on this base slap yourself

 

[Fighter2011]

Even if Hashirma wins which is debatable, its with extreme difficulty. this base underestimates Nagato so much. bansho tenin allows him to toss anyone around like a rag.

how does he win by a large margin? he may win with extreme diff

huuuh the idiots on this base slap yourself

I agree, it would be high diff at least, but this is not debatable, Nagato has no awnser for Shinsusenju

 

[Avinash012]

Hashirama is stronger than Nagato....

Hashirama win's mid-high dif...

Wood clone solos Nagato......



Unless Nagato has something like Perfect Susanoo.. Hashirama doesn't need his SM

nagato erases hashirama's existence.

base mokuton techniques get destroyed by GM or shinra tensie.

buddah is destroyed by chibaku tensie.

Ha ha ha ha these Two will never change......

 

[KidGamer65]

This isn't a close match nor is it high diff nor is it even debatable. Once Hashirama goes Sage Mode, he bitch slaps Nagato 10000 times with his Buddha statue.

 

[Fighter2011]

This isn't a close match nor is it high diff nor is it even debatable. Once Hashirama goes Sage Mode, he bitch slaps Nagato 10000 times with his Buddha statue.

Nobody is beating Prime Nagato without High Diff. Hashirama wins this thanks to his most powerful move. That is high difficulty.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nobody is beating Prime Nagato without High Diff. Hashirama wins this thanks to his most powerful move. That is high difficulty.

lol, no, its not. Using your best move=/=High difficulty. Difficulty is how hard it was to win the fight (Or to do anything in a general case), nothing else.

If he uses his strongest move but absolutely rapes someone with it, is it high difficulty? No.

He could probably even beat him without the use of Shinsuusenju. Hashirama's techniques require Nagato to use his upper leveled techniques to counter. CT is never happening from the start with manga intel and the fact that Nagato will need to expend Deva to survive a second against him and Preta can't even absorb Mokuton.


-Hotei no Jutsu creates giant Mokuton Hands that

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These hands each dwarf Nagato and make him look like a tiny ant in comparison. He would need CST to obliterate all these at once as Hashirama can send them one at a time. Sending them one a time allows Nagato to counter the first one with Shinra Tensei, but he won't be able to counter the rest of them due to the 5 second time limit. Result? Nagato gets crushed like a bug.

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spawns for miles and releases sleep pollen. Nagato WILL need CST to destroy this which leaves him without Deva's abilities for some time.

-No attack Nagato has is getting past Hobi no Jutsu

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is another technique he'll need to use Deva to block.

 

[~Sasuke~]

Hashirama, no question about it.

 

[Killer Bee and Samehada]

SM Hashirama > Nagato > Base Hashirama

No- just no! Nagar o can't beat normal madara who can- Hashi!

 

[Naijakid]

nagato erases hashirama's existence.

base mokuton techniques get destroyed by GM or shinra tensie.

buddah is destroyed by chibaku tensie.

Itachi >>Madara totsuka gg

 

[Naijakid]

A kunai at the back by a wood clone gg nagato

 

[Crossroads]

lol, no, its not. Using your best move=/=High difficulty. Difficulty is how hard it was to win the fight (Or to do anything in a general case), nothing else.

If he uses his strongest move but absolutely rapes someone with it, is it high difficulty? No.

He could probably even beat him without the use of Shinsuusenju. Hashirama's techniques require Nagato to use his upper leveled techniques to counter. CT is never happening from the start with manga intel and the fact that Nagato will need to expend Deva to survive a second against him and Preta can't even absorb Mokuton.


-Hotei no Jutsu creates giant Mokuton Hands that

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These hands each dwarf Nagato and make him look like a tiny ant in comparison. He would need CST to obliterate all these at once as Hashirama can send them one at a time. Sending them one a time allows Nagato to counter the first one with Shinra Tensei, but he won't be able to counter the rest of them due to the 5 second time limit. Result? Nagato gets crushed like a bug.

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spawns for miles and releases sleep pollen. Nagato WILL need CST to destroy this which leaves him without Deva's abilities for some time.

-No attack Nagato has is getting past Hobi no Jutsu

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is another technique he'll need to use Deva to block.

Thank you, such flawed thinking in this..

I forgot who, but some User I was debating with told me that using your best Jutsu means you won high diff.

So Naruto spamming FRS in KCM was difficult for him..? Nope.

 

[Transcendence]

Even if Hashirma wins which is debatable, its with extreme difficulty. this base underestimates Nagato so much. bansho tenin allows him to toss anyone around like a rag.

how does he win by a large margin? he may win with extreme diff

huuuh the idiots on this base slap yourself

No, you're the idiot here and you're acting like a fan boy. It has been stated TIME AND TIME AGAIN; Hashirama and Madara are on different levels compared to everyone else in the story. This was even after we saw Nagato's full capabilities. Bansho Tenshin won't do anything to Hashirama while he is getting hurled he's also spawning massive tendrils of roots to attack Nagato which will force him to dodge and let go of Hashirama. Chou Shinra Tensei is tanked quite handily and rids him of any ability to use Deva (his only weapon against Hashirama) for quite some time. Perfect Susano'o Prime Madara babyshakes Nagato and Hashirama was beating him in Base Mode until the Kurama fusion happened. I can safely say that Base Hashirama > Nagato.

And this is coming from someone who has Nagato as his favorite character (tied with Minato). Learn to accept it.

 

[Nous]

Nagato is being underrated.. Quite a bit.

Hashirama is not beating Nagato, Neg-Diff. or whatever. Nagato is a formidable opponent and very close to Hashirama/Madara's Level. I believe Nagato could beat Hashirama - less than 1/10 chance but still. Chibaku Tensei is dealt with Wood Dragon or Shinsusenju. However, Mokuton can be absorbed so whether Wood Dragon would work or not is debatable. The real problem is Shinsusenju - how can Nagato beat it? He could potentially destroy the legs with Bansho' Tennin or Shinra Tensei but I doubt it. Flower World or whatever cannot be countered by Nagato from my understanding..

Hashirama beats Nagato but not Neg. Difficulty. Mid-High. Difficulty is more like it - like Madara and nearly all characters in the series, Hashirama just doesn't throw in his most powerful techniques, whenever. He generally makes his way from weak techniques to stronger ones and it would clearly end with Hashirama using quite a bit of effort.

 

[Sasuke the Boss]

nagato cant see through hashirama's clones,

GG nagato.

 

[Black Ace]

hashirama win no dought