Hashirama never fought Perfect Susanoo

[~Madara Uchiha~]

while were on the subject of stuff never stated in the manga how about this Hashi has seen it and the manga didnt contradict itself Madara finished hashi later..... i mean why not? we dont know hashis death it was a mystery?

 

[Omnipotent]

But Hashirama did die, so Madara isn't wrong (even if what you are saying is correct)

 

[Unbiased]

No, because the "it is said" part of the quote means Madara was only stating something commonly reported or rumored.

By stating it is said means Madara is the one saying "it is said" since it wouldn't be true if others said it because they'd be dead. Its a mind F**k but it makes sense.

 

[Unbiased]

But Hashirama did die, so Madara isn't wrong (even if what you are saying is correct)

I don't like that logic. That's like saying Madara showed Perfect susanoo to Ton ton and then ton ton died 70 years later due to natural causes like disease.

 

[3MESSIAH]

i think he did have it but it wasnt on steroids back then

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

PS is his trump card. If he's always licking Shodai's ass and always goes on and on about how strong he was, I'm sure he used he greatest technique, the PS. Knowing Madara, he would've said some shit like "you should be happy... not even Hashirama has experienced the wrath of the perfect susano'o..". And before you quote me, yes, I am Kishi.

 

[OnPoint]

By stating it is said means Madara is the one saying "it is said" since it wouldn't be true if others said it because they'd be dead. Its a mind F**k but it makes sense.

Don't know where you're trying to go with this, but it seems your line of reasoning revolves around the idea that the statement 'All who have seen it (Perfect Susano'o) die' is absolute when it isn't. 'It is said' isn't an idea restricted to Madara alone, it implies a common view maintained or rumoured by a group of people. People living within that Uchiha/Senju era. We even saw the Gokage manage to come out alive after the initial coming together (for whatever reason), so it further shows that the 'All who see it die' is nothing more than a mythical statement in the same league as Hashirama's 'fairytale-like' strength. It's just a rumour.

 

[Unbiased]

Don't know where you're trying to go with this, but it seems your line of reasoning revolves around the idea that the statement 'All who have seen it (Perfect Susano'o) die' is absolute when it isn't. 'It is said' isn't an idea restricted to Madara alone, it implies a common view maintained or rumoured by a group of people. People living within that Uchiha/Senju era. We even saw the Gokage manage to come out alive after the initial coming together (for whatever reason), so it further shows that the 'All who see it die' is nothing more than a mythical statement in the same league as Hashirama's 'fairytale-like' strength. It's just a rumour.

I suppose so. Its plausible he didn't use it or did. Both sides can be debated for hours.

 

[Omnipotent]

I don't like that logic. That's like saying Madara showed Perfect susanoo to Ton ton and then ton ton died 70 years later due to natural causes like disease.

Then your argument's based only on assumptions because you're assuming that Madara meant killed in battle.

Flawed, no?

 

[KING KISAME]

That theory doesn't hold water

 

[TrollingSage]

That theory doesn't hold water

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[Makoto]

Do you people not even read, or do you just like to misquote? On the next page Madara states "Or so they say..."

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

We will never know, that is unless Kishi shows us the entire battle in a flashback

 

[shogun973]

It is said means other people.

"Everyone who see's PS dies" Is madara saying it.

Then we can say "Madara said.." get it

umm no...madara means what it says.....as in ppl who have used(prior uchiha) have claimed that when they use it (PS) no one lives

 

[shogun973]

Do you people not even read, or do you just like to misquote? On the next page Madara states "Or so they say..."

meanin? dnt worry 'll wait hashi never saw it

 

[Makoto]

meanin? dnt worry 'll wait hashi never saw it

I shouldn't have to explain what Madara means when he says, "Everyone who has seen Perfect Susano'o dies, or so they say."