Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever to live after Sage of six Paths

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minato is considered the strongest , hiruzen always looked up to minatos statue in admiration of his strength as a shinobi


I think Hiruzen was considered to be the strongest Hokage at his time being compared to Hashirama and Tobirama but Minato came afterwards and perhaps managed to surpass him.
 

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It was clearly said that Hashirama defeated Madara in the Valley of ends. Also, just before madara died, he had activated the rinnegan. So Hashirama defeated madara with a rinnegan. In the manga, it shows Madara has a control of Kyuubi during his fight with Hashirama. It was after their battle that the Kyuubi was sealed due to Kyuubis immense power that he cannot let to roam free. And lastly, I just find it bs that Madara will fight Hashirama just for his DNA. He fought hashirama to defeat him but he failed. He cannot defeat hashirama that he just settled for his DNA and continue his plan in the future, eventually when hashirama will be already dead to counter his plan. Oh c'mon...it will be better that Madara will kill Hashirama and get his DNA when he is dead. But in the end Madara is a failure.


I thought Madara didn't die during his battle against Hashirama.
 

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that is true though the onl reason current madara might be stronger is cuz he stole his dna to get rinnegan. nagato is not stronger kust because of the rinnegan hashirama has actual skill.
 

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Hashirama ins strong but Tobi, Rinnegan Madara and Nagato are stronger.
 

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Hiruzen>Hashirama > Tobi,Negato,Madara Hashirama is a very powerful shinobi and i know it's hard for people to accept Hiruzen to be a powerful shinobi cause all the latest cchapters with OP ninja but i have said it time andtime again with a series like naruto,dbz,bleach they have to keep opin people the longer a series drags on to keep it more intresting
 

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If u say hiruzen is strong I agree to, some extent cuz of his old age he, lost to orochinmaru but he's a brave ,smart & strong shinobi.not as strong as harshiremaru.
 

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If u say hiruzen is strong I agree to, some extent cuz of his old age he, lost to orochinmaru but he's a brave ,smart & strong shinobi.not as strong as harshiremaru.though minato outshined hiruzen,have it at ya mind that hashirama, is da best ever.
 

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If there were no such thing as OP eye-whores then yes, otherwise, nope.
 

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Hiruzen>Hashirama > Tobi,Negato,Madara Hashirama is a very powerful shinobi and i know it's hard for people to accept Hiruzen to be a powerful shinobi cause all the latest cchapters with OP ninja but i have said it time andtime again with a series like naruto,dbz,bleach they have to keep opin people the longer a series drags on to keep it more intresting


Hiruzen>Nagato,Tobi ???
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I think at this point, the question is "Who can defeat Madara+Kyubi other than Hashirama?"

I feel that Nagato would not be able, given that he had such great difficulties with earlier incarnations of the fox. I also feel that it would not be likely (but not impossible) to expect the 3rd to be able to accomplish this task given what we've seen of his battles, although, we only saw him fight as an old man, so perhaps it would be possible when he was younger. Additionally, I don't believe any of the sannin could win if we consider that they are very close in power and both jiraya and tsunade we're unable to best even nagato whom i've already expressed doubts about. That was just a quick few. Any thoughts on who everyone thins might be able to beat madara and 9 tails?
 

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in regards to the list everyone keeps making of who is stronger than hashirama I don't think Itachi should be on that list, it was shown that hashirama could take on madara who is stronger than itachi. Also being that he left Madara near death I'm sure hashirama is familiar with all the secret techs of the uchihas. To top it off Itachi, doesn't have as much chakra to madara who was stated to have more than average for uchihas
 

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I think at this point, the question is "Who can defeat Madara+Kyubi other than Hashirama?"

I feel that Nagato would not be able, given that he had such great difficulties with earlier incarnations of the fox. I also feel that it would not be likely (but not impossible) to expect the 3rd to be able to accomplish this task given what we've seen of his battles, although, we only saw him fight as an old man, so perhaps it would be possible when he was younger. Additionally, I don't believe any of the sannin could win if we consider that they are very close in power and both jiraya and tsunade we're unable to best even nagato whom i've already expressed doubts about. That was just a quick few. Any thoughts on who everyone thins might be able to beat madara and 9 tails?

In regards to the bolded, I don't think that the bolded is a good way to determine who is stronger than hashirama because midway through the fight, we know hashirama took control of the kyuubi, and then it was hashirama + kyuubi vs EMS madara.

A better gauge would be who is stronger than just EMS Madara.
 

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In regards to the bolded, I don't think that the bolded is a good way to determine who is stronger than hashirama because midway through the fight, we know hashirama took control of the kyuubi, and then it was hashirama + kyuubi vs EMS madara.

A better gauge would be who is stronger than just EMS Madara.

Hashirama is.
 

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Although Hashirama did take control of the fox, I don't think that would disqualify the aforementioned question. Taking control of the demon fox away from madara would take a shinobi of unbelievable power and skill. Who else can take control away from madara? (well, I guess thise skilled in sealing techniques, but still, it would require a great deal of skill)
 

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Migato managed to wounded tobi and free fox in one move. And then gave is life to naruto see his mather one more time cause she was dyin! I think he should be at top 5 list too ... Check on naruto manga 503 page 8 for your self and tobi went bk to his cave cryin for his big fail
 
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Yes he said dont use past tense , because it was embarrassing..... he was his strongest in his prime... now he was old , and his performance terrible compared to his prime state ......at his old age its not fitting to say he's the strongest hokage...

he said dont use the past tense because minato far surpassed him...
 

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let me clear things up , when iruka gave a history lesson on the hokages , he said hiruzen WAS the strongest , but why was?
becuase minato surpassed him , when madara fought hiruzen he had no mokuton , no rinnegan
he didnt die either , tobi on the other hand can take on naruto , and bee who can both take on the 5 kage if they teamed up , now tobis done nothing but control his paths , he still has susanoo etc. so imo and in FACT after the sage of 6 paths the strongest are probably his sons , then madara /tobi/minato
 

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The manga clearly shows us how overpower he is, he defeated Madara in the valley of end even though Madara had the Nine-tails/Kurama in controll. Even Madara said the man I respect the most is Hashirama senju even though he hated him. He can use many jutsu its not only wood element, the scroll that naruto stole at the beggening of naruto was his he sealed it. He knew for example kage bunshin and probably thousands of jutsu that we don't know.
There is no shinobi that can defeat him. But somehow people underrate him and say that sandaime is stronger this is complete bs first hokage would kill him very easy. The current Madara would put up a good fight against First hokage But I still think that Hashirami can win. Don't even make me laugh and say that Nagato can beat him please. Its not all about eyes Hashirama proved that when he defeated madara and so will Naruto do when he defeats sasuke. As tobi said the two sons of the sage one of em belived that power was everything the other one believed in Love. Power one=Madara Love one= Hashirama. If you even try to say that minato is stronger rofl. say what ya think :p

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His skills and techniques alone made him the most powerful ninja during the height of the ninja golden age if you will, since that was an era of constant battles between clans it produced the greatest and most skilled of shinobi. And for Both Madara & Hashirama to have stood atop of all them equally by leaps and bounds says alot of Hashirama's prowess and skill

add on top of an already unparralell base power, Hashirama also had all 9 bijuu in his possession at one point and had the power to control them all like pets. That power right there at his disposal makes him untouchable cause if he summon just 2 of them, game over. Now like a dope he gave up all that power and just handed them over to the other villages I guess to play fair...but at that time when he had them all...no one could mess with him

That's why I'd have to agree and say I think he's the best behind the SOT6P
 
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