Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever to live after Sage of six Paths

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The manga clearly shows us how overpower he is, he defeated Madara in the valley of end even though Madara had the Nine-tails/Kurama in controll. Even Madara said the man I respect the most is Hashirama senju even though he hated him. He can use many jutsu its not only wood element, the scroll that naruto stole at the beggening of naruto was his he sealed it. He knew for example kage bunshin and probably thousands of jutsu that we don't know.
There is no shinobi that can defeat him. But somehow people underrate him and say that sandaime is stronger this is complete bs first hokage would kill him very easy. The current Madara would put up a good fight against First hokage But I still think that Hashirami can win. Don't even make me laugh and say that Nagato can beat him please. Its not all about eyes Hashirama proved that when he defeated madara and so will Naruto do when he defeats sasuke. As tobi said the two sons of the sage one of em belived that power was everything the other one believed in Love. Power one=Madara Love one= Hashirama. If you even try to say that minato is stronger rofl. say what ya think :p
 

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Nope not if the third was considered the strongest hokage in history.......................so far
 

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Hashirama isn't even close to being the strongest shinobi after the so6p. Nagato's stronger, rinnegan Madara's stronger, Tobi's stronger, Hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage, and etc.
 

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Think before you speak. According to you Hiruzen can defeat Madara even though Madara has kyuubi in full controll?! complete bs
 

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Nah. You are wrong. there are shin obi stronger than 1st Hokage
 

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edo madara as surpassed hashirama
 

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Think before you speak. According to you Hiruzen can defeat Madara even though Madara has kyuubi in full controll?! complete bs

Manga facts>your words.
 

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hiruzen is awesome but ain't on tha same lvl as Hashirama
 

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1. hashirama vs madara is not a good example for backing his strength up since madara was just fighting for DNA and madara got his full power after that fight, plus hashirama had control of the fox too

2. nagato can beat hashirama

3. so can itachi

4. hes getting overrated
 

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Nope not if the third was considered the strongest hokage in history.......................so far

No he wasn't he was strong but not strong enough
 

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so the manga contradicts good its said that he was the strongest shinobi ever to live but did he prove that no
 

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If he was the strongest hokage ever he wouldn't have died to Orochimaru. Even though he is old Hashirama would never ever lose to Orochimaru even if he was 80 years old
 

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We need more info on that fight to fully have a valid argument.

What i will say is that history only remembers the winner. The final result.
Example; history would say naruto defeated pein. It never tells the full story, but in naruto vs pein's case we know exactly what happened.

I actually wouldnt be surprised if hashirama vs madara was similar to naruto vs pein
 

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If he was the strongest hokage ever he wouldn't have died to Orochimaru. Even though he is old Hashirama would never ever lose to Orochimaru even if he was 80 years old

Hiruzen lost because of his old age and this is even stated. Also how do you know Hashirama would beat Orochimaru in old age? Are you psychic or are you the manga writer? No.
 

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Kishi said himself that Third was the strongest hokage..
 

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We need more info on that fight to fully have a valid argument.

What i will say is that history only remembers the winner. The final result.
Example; history would say naruto defeated pein. It never tells the full story, but in naruto vs pein's case we know exactly what happened.

I actually wouldnt be surprised if hashirama vs madara was similar to naruto vs pein

The manga clearly states that Madara was betrayed by his Clan becuz they wanted peace with senju but he didn't so they thought he only wished for more power. SO he left Konoha and then years later came back to take his revenge on konoha he had the kyubi and attacke konoha hashirama defended his village and then he got defeated in the valley of end Thats where they both fought.
 

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Hashirama isn't even close to being the strongest shinobi after the so6p. Nagato's stronger, rinnegan Madara's stronger, Tobi's stronger, Hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage, and etc.

this.. and as far i know.. madara's plan was from the beginning to get hes dna. + i think you are bit overrating him there... he was strong.. but not most powerful after so6p.. not even close..
 

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man stop pissing me off with these kishi said himself show me link or please shut it.
 

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The manga clearly states that Madara was betrayed by his Clan becuz they wanted peace with senju but he didn't so they thought he only wished for more power. SO he left Konoha and then years later came back to take his revenge on konoha he had the kyubi and attacke konoha hashirama defended his village and then he got defeated in the valley of end Thats where they both fought.

All youve said is true, but there seems to be alot of mystery about that fight.
At first we thought hashirama defeated madara.
Then we thought it was hashirama vs madara + kyuubi
Then we get it was hashirama + mito (kyuubi jinchurciki) vs madara
Then we get madara was fighting for his dna, either to obtain the rennigan or for his wood release.

I am somewhat doubting that hashirama defeated a 100% percent madara in a 1 vs 1 situation. Manga hasnt fully clarified this issue imo
 

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this.. and as far i know.. madara's plan was from the beginning to get hes dna. + i think you are bit overrating him there... he was strong.. but not most powerful after so6p.. not even close..

he didin't attack konoha just for DNA He held a grudge against Konoha and his clan too.
 
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