Hashirama, Edo Minato and DMS Kakashi vs. RSM Naruto

[KidGamer65]

Wtf?:lol all he has to do is to have 5 tails boil his chakra. Why can't he do it again?
And I'm sure you remember how fast Naruto can activate and deactivate his avatar. None of them have the speed to get between that time gap

Thats in his human form, not his avatar. :lol Get them feats or dont bother with the argumentation. Why are you even arguing this? He cant break the gates with kairiki musou punches while he's pinned so it doesnt matter. Then there's the fact you dont even have the feats to prove that it will let him become strong enough to destroy the gates. :lol

And he'd still get hit by the incoming attacks so your strategy is weak af regardless.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yall wild but im no going to lie people are bringing decent good arguments for the team. Naruto still stomps. Restrict clones and Kakashi solo's.

Naruto could also outlast them. Hashirama can't hold up SS for ever and without it he gets blitz. Same goes for Kakashi. If it comes down to it Naruto could just dodge them all day.

 

[Strict]

Well, as DSM Kakashi has Rikudo Chakra as well, he can react at Naruto with Kamui, and Kamui's attack and defense is absolute. He reacts to Kaguya's ash-bones and lets them slip through, despite the fact that Kaguya was at the peak of her strength and speed [

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] and then blitzed her with Raikiri. Sure, he had the surprise effect on his side, but still. He could keep up with her speed at its peak.

He can also spam Kamui shuriken, each being able to cut of a giant tail through absorption. No matter what Naruto throws at him, Kamui Shuriken can absorb it. Spamming Gudou Dama Shuriken? Kamui Shuriken drag them to the other dimension.

Hashirama and Minato are not much of a factor. Rikudo Obito already outclassed the Hokage and Rikudo Obito is inferior to One eye Rinnegan Madara, who, on the other hand is inferior to RSM Naruto.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Thats in his human form, not his avatar. :lol Get them feats or dont bother with the argumentation. Why are you even arguing this? He cant break the gates with kairiki musou punches while he's pinned so it doesnt matter. Then there's the fact you dont even have the feats to prove that it will let him become strong enough to destroy the gates. :lol

And he'd still get hit by the incoming attacks so your strategy is weak af regardless.

Lel why can't he? He uses the bijuus chakras anyway, so I don't see why he can't.
If Madara did, so can Naruto, unless you're saying Sai's tigers can destroy those gates :lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Lel why can't he? He uses the bijuus chakras anyway, so I don't see why he can't.
If Madara did, so can Naruto, unless you're saying Sai's tigers can destroy those gates :lol

Your logic:

-Sasuke can use any Ninjutsu through Susanoo because he used Chidori.
-Madara can use any Ninjutsu through Susanoo because he used Rinnegan+Susanoo to bring down a meteor.

Not interested without feats. It doesn't matter regardless. Naruto's physical striking strength is useless when he's pinned to the ground.

And lmao don't ever come at me with nonsense like this. You and I both know damn well that Madara breaking a human sized gate from Base Hashirama isn't the same as him being able to break a gate that can bind the Juubi. Super BD from the Juubi went off in the barrier and the gates survived it. The only thing that has effortlessly destroyed it is the Juubi's chakra arms.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Your logic:

-Sasuke can use any Ninjutsu through Susanoo because he used Chidori.
-Madara can use any Ninjutsu through Susanoo because he used Rinnegan+Susanoo to bring down a meteor.

Not interested without feats. It doesn't matter regardless. Naruto's physical striking strength is useless when he's pinned to the ground.

And lmao don't ever come at me with nonsense like this. You and I both know damn well that Madara breaking a human sized gate from Base Hashirama isn't the same as him being able to break a gate that can bind the Juubi. Super BD from the Juubi went off in the barrier and the gates survived it. The only thing that has effortlessly destroyed it is the Juubi's chakra arms.

I never implied or said that. All that is happening is Naruto's chakra boiled up by the 5tails to increase his strength. You have no proof of Naruto's inability to boil his chakra while using his avatar.
And I don't care if juubidama didn't destroy the gates. Juubito shat on them without using chakra arms, so I don't see why Naruto can't.

 

[KidGamer65]

I never implied or said that. All that is happening is Naruto's chakra boiled up by the 5tails to increase his strength. You have no proof of Naruto's inability to boil his chakra while using his avatar.
And I don't care if juubidama didn't destroy the gates. Juubito shat on them without using chakra arms, so I don't see why Naruto can't.

:lol And he does that using his own chakra. That's Ninjutsu. That's the same as claiming everything I claimed above.

I'm not even going to bother arguing whether or not he can use Kairiki Musou in his Avatar though considering it's useless when

And you really need to read the Manga. Juubito's spikes on his back, where the chakra arms come from, are shown lit up right after the thing is destroyed. Meaning he used them. Insinuating that Juubito didn't use chakra arms in the first place is ridiculous considering Naruto's Avatar and Sasuke's Susanoo even before Hagoromo's buff are more physically capable than Obito in his human form, and they can't overpower what the Juubi couldn't.

 

[Lord Tywin]

:lol And he does that using his own chakra. That's Ninjutsu. That's the same as claiming everything I claimed above.

I'm not even going to bother arguing whether or not he can use Kairiki Musou in his Avatar though considering it's useless when

And you really need to read the Manga. Juubito's spikes on his back, where the chakra arms come from, are shown lit up right after the thing is destroyed. Meaning he used them. Insinuating that Juubito didn't use chakra arms in the first place is ridiculous considering Naruto's Avatar and Sasuke's Susanoo even before Hagoromo's buff are more physically capable than Obito in his human form, and they can't overpower what the Juubi couldn't.

wtf? In both instances Naruto is using his own chakra along with kurama's. The only thing you can say is 5tails not being able to boil Naruto's chakra because he's using kurama's chakra, but that wouldn't make sense when 5tails already boiled Naruto's chakra while using the cloak, which is kurama's chakra. Only difference is the quantities of chakra used by Naruto. If 5tails can boil Naruto's chakra while he's using his cloak, he'd be able to boil Naruto's chakra in the avatar.
In other hand, if Naruto can't break the gates, he can get away, as the gates aren't touching his own body, giving him the chance to cancel the avatar.

 

[KidGamer65]

wtf? In both instances Naruto is using his own chakra along with kurama's. The only thing you can say is 5tails not being able to boil Naruto's chakra because he's using kurama's chakra, but that wouldn't make sense when 5tails already boiled Naruto's chakra while using the cloak, which is kurama's chakra. Only difference is the quantities of chakra used by Naruto. If 5tails can boil Naruto's chakra while he's using his cloak, he'd be able to boil Naruto's chakra in the avatar.
In other hand, if Naruto can't break the gates, he can get away, as the gates aren't touching his own body, giving him the chance to cancel the avatar.

Refer to my last 2 posts for everything you just typed in your first paragraph, because you are doing nothing but repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

Yes, and then that leads us back to where I already addressed this. :lol If Naruto puts down the Avatar he gets hit by SS and PS. If he puts back up, he'll survive the attack but still take heavy damage as he won't be able to evade or guard himself. (as in the Avatar's main body)

 

[TRE MERCER]

Refer to my last 2 posts for everything you just typed in your first paragraph, because you are doing nothing but repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

Yes, and then that leads us back to where I already addressed this. :lol If Naruto puts down the Avatar he gets hit by SS and PS. If he puts back up, he'll survive the attack but still take heavy damage as he won't be able to evade or guard himself. (as in the Avatar's main body)

What stops Naruto from outlasting them? Nothing.......

 

[KidGamer65]

What stops Naruto from outlasting them? Nothing.......

The fact this is your go to argument says a lot. :lol Anyway, how does Naruto outlast? By running and dodging all attacks? Yeah, no. Kakashi hunts him down and kills him if he tries to run the entire match. Flight isn't an excuse as PS can fly. If he pulls out the Avatar he gets bound. Kakashi and Minato make his projectiles useless. There is no scenario where Naruto wins.

 

[Unorthodox]

When talking about two explosions of the same kind (bijuu dama) that's all that matters. Don't make shitty excuses now son. In terms of explosive size:
-Madara's BD barrage>RSM Naruto's BD that can damage his own Avatar with a direct hit>>1 BDFRS.
-Chojo Kebutsu equaled Madara's BD barrage. Thus it's superior to a single BDFRS and a single BD from RSM Naruto.

Based off zero facts you dumbass all bijuu dama explosions are similar in size when talking about the standard bijuu dama that is spat out

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but not equal in power so your bout dumb af to come to that assumptions, even more proof

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Naruto and Killerbee's BD explosion was the same size yet we know His Bijuu dama's have way more power than Gyuki's and even if what you said was true which it's not it would be mooted due to the fact that one is amped by rikudou chakra while the other is not same size bijuu dama's but one being amped size would not mean a thing while power would so your wrong af.

Funny thing is you got this terrible logic from Thesage the man who yall always laugh at look at you using this shitty as logic, Wrong af BDFRS > the one bijuu dama from Kurama not only is it a bijuu dama but it's also a Gudo dama fusion

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the gudo dama is clearly being used here.

The chunks that fell from Sasuke dicing those chibaku tensei up we're mountain ranges which is size we're bigger than SS

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and you talking about size = power when using BD Naruto BDFRS full size we're bigger than those Chibaku tensei rocks as a whole

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If size = Power than THIS explosion > Chibaku tensei > Chibaku tensei chunks > VOTE explosion meaning they get whipped off the map with no resistance. That Vote is explosion is not even bigger than the one Naruto and Sasuke was in to began with. This is big as hell without any debri or dust kicked up

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while the latter explosion was not visible and the dust cloud still is not that big

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this alone post clears about 80% of post but ill play along.

1. No version of the Shinju besides the Shinju itself has been shown in this Manga. The Bijuu Dama tree is NOT the Shinju. YRS cutting the Shinju and failing to cut Madara in half doesn't mean it cuts PS when the Shinju's durability feats are trash compared to PS. That simple.

I can't even began with this post lol. The root that Obito whipped up was obviously weaker than the shunju tree. Failing to cut Madara lmao unless you think Madara durability > Shinju this post is trash night gai only grazed the shinju while it exploded the Madara's body also didn't Sasuke chop a superior Madara in half with chidori? so i Guess Sasuke ration sword > YFRS LMFAO.

Kamui Shuriken are used to block Naruto's attacks. So unless Naruto can outspeed his own attack that will be fired first there's nothing to discuss here. And he can't, so don't ever bring this point up again. And I already addressed the number of Shuriken vs. the number of Bijuu Dama. :lol

Shut you dumbass up lol. I already countered your argument on the numbers lol. Sasuke had time to chop up two whole Chibaku tensei giving each multiple slashes before bdfrs exploded Naruto flight speed = Sasuke's he does the same with ease. As if that was relevant when he can disguise a clone as his attack or simple put a clone in front to run up at it or shoot chakra hands. Still did not counter the size of the explosion sucking up multiple Kamui shuriken just concede because you lost.

3. Then Minato places some. :lol Naruto can repeat his attack all he wants, it's not like it matters.

Then Naruto removes them and how far will he place them? because the aoe of BDFRS is enormous. Yea because Naruto they can match Naruto tit for tat when his chakra > All of theirs combined lol.

4. Suicide clones to get close? What are you even talking about? Clone spam? Kakashi's PS rapes clone spam.

Dodge his ps blade like Kaguya did Sasuke's and to add he cannot kill clones and throw kamui shuriken so your point is moot lol.

And no, Minato doesn't need to be able to react to Naruto in order to be able to react to Naruto's attacks from the distance Naruto will need to throw them at in order to survive, a distance he'll never even reach with Kakashi and Hashirama pressing him.

Sigh Hashirama is a super non factor 100m Naruto BDFRS explosion is about 1000 meters and a sphere so minato is not reacting period. Naruto clones forms BDFRS shunshin between all of them then lets it off K.O there dead. Kakashi non existence pressure Kurama avatar matched a much much stronger susanoo yet will lose to Kakashi's boy bye also Naruto using BDFRS while Kurama uses Bijuu dama barrage ends them.

The explosion is irrelevant. When the ball gets warped there is no explosion. Same goes for the S/T Barrier. Try again. And Naruto's Gudo Dama don't instantly return to him after using this tech. But wait, hold on, why am I even entertaining the dumb idea of him rinsing and repeating BDFRS attacks when Kamui Shuriken warp them to another dimension? :lol. Once his BDFRS are warped he loses 4 of his Gudo Dama, then S/T Barrier takes care of the last 2. Or Hashirama overpowers the last 2 with Chojo and then when they reform Kakashi takes care of them using his Shuriken.

Naruto can control his detonations

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so he easily explodes it before the kamui shuriken hit him what stops him from using a clone to fly right over to them dodging the ps blade then exploding? nothing your team gets eviscerated. Sigh your dumb af not all his bijuu variants of FRS uses the gudodama so the rinsing and repeat does work here look at it like this we got Kurama shooting Bijuu dama barrages or Flash BD while Naruto hands off his Gudo damas to a clone who uses 6 BDFRS while other clones spam the other bijuu variant abilities. This is such a stomp kid.

Good thing Kakashi's PS can fly. And Naruto without an Avatar isn't beating PS. He can't block it's attacks

Doesnt need to block when he can dodge Multiple clones using BDFRS from different directions wreck Kakashi's ps who all alone in the air by himself.

If he uses his Avatar he gets raped by Myojinmon, so let's forget about that. He can hover over SS all he wants, it doesn't change the fact that Kakashi and Minato make his projectiles 100% useless in this fight.

Myojinmon is sensed miles before it get anywhere near Naruto and is dodged or he just snaps it up like Juubito or clones on stand bye breaks it to pieces those gates are a non factor. It does'nt change the fact he out numbers them with his projectiles and S/T barrier can only take 1 attack at time Naruto can strike from all area's as well then add Minato won't have no outside marking and cannot use S/t barrier forever lol. If push comes to shove Naruto outlast them.

Lmaoooo yeah. KAGUYA. Sasuke being unable to hit Kaguya with Susanoo while his Susanoo was in the process of being destroyed=/=Kakashi being unable to hit Naruto with his Susanoo. Sasuke

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a punch on Kaguya right before that, so let's not act like she has the ability to weave all of Sasuke's attacks in close quarters. Let's not act like Naruto will do the same to Kakashi either, especially when his top, impressive speed comes from his Shunshin, not his flight.

Irrelevant af when Sasuke's speed >>>>>>> Kakashi so your point is not being helped here at all he only landed a punch because she let him lol when he tried to deliver a damaging blow she was not touched at all and as you always claim she was slower and weak because her chakra was low hence the reason she was blitz by Naruto moments latter so by your logic my point still stands. Naruto speed = Sasuke's flight speed and flight speed is irrelevant evasion speed and reaction is what matter here simple how Obito was zip zapping through Naruto and Sasuke's attacks. S/t barrier is shit useless since Minato will not get it up in time, This boy is wearing out these kamui shuriken arguments like a mofo. if Kakashi engage Naruto in CQC he's not prepping his Kamui shuriken or like i said for the 100 time he can fake them out with duds.

PS Kakashi engages Naruto in CQC above SS's range like you say he will and then he gets demolished. Projectiles are warped by Minato, BDFRS is taken out by a combo of S/T Barrier and Kamui Shuriken, any regular FRS variant that can't be warped away is blocked by PS.

Addressed. Minato is not warping nothing you think Minato will have enough time to set up kunai outside the aoe of a BDFRS then hop in susanoo before Naruto gets BDFRS off? child bye Lol and while they're fighting the real Naruto a clones blitz Hashirama off SS head killing him. Stop base Naruto could split the god tree without even using a chou version of his FRS bijuu variants RSM naruto using Chou demolishes His Susanoo which have 0 durability feats.

Not really. Chojo Kebutsu is stronger than an attack that can canonically damage Naruto's Avatar. If Naruto is left immobile with no way to defend himself then it's a wrap. So forget about the Avatar unless Naruto got the power to do what the superior Juubi failed to do. :lol Bringing Juubito's feats are pointless because a JJ's chakra arms>>>Naruto's chakra arms by feats.

Not even close how is it stronger when it failed to destroy PS completely mind you a PS buffed by 50% Of Hagoromo chakra >>>>>>>>> Any normal ps and Kurama avatar is equal to Sasuke's ps so your have no phucking point dumbass. a superior Juubi? stop Obito was described to physically superior to juubi Hago Buff BM Kurama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juubito and every stat line only thing juubi has that is superior is firepower and even thats debatable. JJ chakra arms > Naruto's No his best feat his tossing back a BM kurama nothing impressive and chakra arms are dependent on the users chakra 50% Hagoromo plus chakra > incomplete juubi chakra wise so your point is not a point at all. Also even stated that suggest you believe Obito chakra arms can over power Amped Kurama child please his chakra arms could not even block Bijuu damas or susanoo arrow hence he used Gudo dama's. Also i guess those chakra arms > Juubidama because the barrier walls did not insatly shatter when the and pressure of Juubi dama slammed against it but was shredded by chakra arms you sound dumb af.

The Shinju's root didn't withstand a thing. No Juubidama was used after the Shinju's release anyway so I have no idea what you are talking about. The Bijuu Dama tree is not a root of the Shinju so if that is what you are implying you can stop now because that thing doesn't look like the shinju in any way besides the fact they are both trees. :lol

So when did Obito gain Mokuton or tree abilities outside of the shinju? ill wait that's obivously an extension of juubi's ability of being god tree but i expected you to be ignorant.

Hilarious how this guy is insinuating YRS can cut something that can survive a Juubidama (The tree) despite it failing to cut Madara in half. :lol And based on what does BDFRS have slicing power stronger than Madara's PS? Oh wait, nothing. Just like 90% of your post.

Despite most of its power was focused to cut the tree Madara was chopped in half By Sasuke lighting blade which i guess can chop god tree in half as well.

BDFRS power comes from the explosion. Any feats of it's slicing power are fanfiction. Crying "Rikudo boost almighty god buff" doesn't prove that the wind blade (where all the slicing power comes from) goes from cutting CT fragments to cutting apart Mountain Ranges like Madara's susanoo does.

Crying because it's boost that it's not going to cut is not helping these desperate azs arguments. Normal FRS has no problem chopping rocks in half Give FRS Hagoromo boost and Make it mountain size it cuts Mountains to. Madara sword only cut mountain ranges because of the shockwaves it leaves behind and i do not even get your point lol because Each FRS explodes into a blast attack and that what destroys the Susanoo so you have no point.

In terms of slicing power BDFRS has nothing on PS. In terms of explosive power 2 BDFRS are not superior to Madara's 11 BD barrage and the explosion size will tell you that. So once Kakashi takes care of 4 of the BDFRS, the other 2 are overpowered and Naruto is killed. Though I'm waiting to read all these excuses on why the explosive power is irrelevant in this case because Naruto has RSM. :lol

Lol read above this shit has been addressed to hell and the BDFRS explosion dwarfs God tree stump which dwarfs SS and its raw power alone should tell you that it >>>>>>>>> That weak azs VOTE clase from Madara and Hashirama. Perfect Susanoo compared to Obito's barrier

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God tree sprouting out bursting through the barrier

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This should tell you alone that the explosion sizes are not comparable so you can stop this pissy azs argument about size = power when once forced is amped by Hagoromo lol. Still talking about Kamui shurikens good lord lol. LMFAO at this team physically overpowering 2 BDFRS when there feats does not even began to measure up.

Based on nothing. Team puts Naruto to sleep. :lol Shit argument is a shit argument.

Based on my evidence shitting on yours.

He used his chakra arms. By feats in pure physical power the Juubi's chakra arms>>>>Naruto's chakra arms. :lol Ripping apart the Hokage's barrier is superior to anything Naruto has ever done in the physical strength department.

Wrong 50% of Hagoromo's chakra > Incomplete Juubi's so you have no point the same chakra arms that we're pushed to their limit by a giant Senjutsu rasengan Lol Obito opting to go strickly gudo dama defense and offense shows you his gudo dama > his chakra arms and BSM Naruto Bijuu dama blow pieces off his gudo dama Not to mention K11 slashed through a block of his Gudo dama sheild like it was nothing.

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shows how weak his chakra arms are.

And where are the speed feats for Naruto in Kurama Mode to outright dodge Myojinmon?

Keeping up with Sasuke avatar and Naruto reacting to Sasuke ameno blitz from close range what speed feat does hotei gates have on anything mobile and are we really suggestion a Rikudou Character cannot dodge these gates good lawd im done.

Lmao you're over here going on about BDFRS yet Naruto would kill himself in the explosion if he used it in this fight without his Avatar. :lol And if he stays in his Avatar Myojinmon binds him.

Naruto has clones that can use and his hotei gates are dodged boy you got your ass owned.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'll give you one more chance to reply with something sensible. After that you can argue with yourself. Don't have the time or patience to type up walls to address a dumb little child's butthurt fueled arguments.

Wrong af BDFRS > the one bijuu dama from Kurama not only is it a bijuu dama but it's also a Gudo dama fusion

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the gudo dama is clearly being used here.

The chunks that fell from Sasuke dicing those chibaku tensei up we're mountain ranges which is size we're bigger than SS

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and you talking about size = power when using BD Naruto BDFRS full size we're bigger than those Chibaku tensei rocks as a whole

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If size = Power than THIS explosion > Chibaku tensei > Chibaku tensei chunks > VOTE explosion meaning they get whipped off the map with no resistance. That Vote is explosion is not even bigger than the one Naruto and Sasuke was in to began with. This is big as hell without any debri or dust kicked up

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while the latter explosion was not visible and the dust cloud still is not that big

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this alone post clears about 80% of post but ill play along.

You typed up all this for literally no reason.

1. Bijuu Dama explosion size is POWER. Fact. Where are you getting the idiotic nonsense that the standard BDs weren't all equal in power from? Oh wait, nowhere besides your ass. :lol If the explosion is the same size, the power is the same. End of story.

2. Rikudo Chakra isn't an excuse. Rikudo chakra increases the power of the jutsu, thus the size of the explosion. If a BD enhanced by any kind of power is smaller than any other Bijuu Dama in explosion size then it's weaker. No amount of shitty excuses will change that. That renders half of this part of your post false and irrelevant.

3. No, BDFRS is not stronger than RSM Naruto's BD. The Gudo Dama being used is irrelevant and doesn't even begin to prove your point. Same excuse I've seen others make in the past only to be unable to support their claims with anything logical or factual. If the Gudo Dama's properties were added to the BD then you wouldn't see rubble from the explosion as the Gudo Dama disintegrates. The explosion is smaller, thus it's weaker. No amount of excuses will change this either. Being larger than rocks as large as the Shinju's trunk is irrelevant because Naruto's BD is far larger than the Shinju's root and it really isn't even close.

4. The VoTE explosion is easily larger than the explosion from Chidori and Bijuu Dama.

Mountains compared to the VoTE explosion. [

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I can't even began with this post lol. The root that Obito whipped up was obviously weaker than the shunju tree. Failing to cut Madara lmao unless you think Madara durability > Shinju this post is trash night gai only grazed the shinju while it exploded the Madara's body also didn't Sasuke chop a superior Madara in half with chidori? so i Guess Sasuke ration sword > YFRS LMFAO.

Based on what? Oh wait. Nothing at all.

The point is, YRS has trash feats for you to be saying it cuts PS in half. :lol Whether or not Madara is more durable than the Shinju is irrelevant. Get me the feats or please stop arguing. It's really that simple.

Shut you dumbass up lol. I already countered your argument on the numbers lol. Sasuke had time to chop up two whole Chibaku tensei giving each multiple slashes before bdfrs exploded Naruto flight speed = Sasuke's he does the same with ease. As if that was relevant when he can disguise a clone as his attack or simple put a clone in front to run up at it or shoot chakra hands. Still did not counter the size of the explosion sucking up multiple Kamui shuriken just concede because you lost.

That's not evidence that Naruto can outspeed his own attacks. Sasuke moving as fast as Naruto's attacks isn't evidence that Naruto can move faster than his own attacks. Especially since you are claiming Naruto can fly as fast as PS, which is also based on nothing.

Disguise? With Kakashi, Hashirama and Minato watching him? Lol stupid as hell. Not to mention that means he has an extra Bijuu Dama, so the plan is made so obvious that he might as well not try. Kamui Shuriken still warps them.

-Shooting chakra hands? Nope. Not unless his chakra hands have feat that make them faster than his own attacks.
-Put a clone in front of it? :lol What kind of garbage is this? His clone gets raped by his own attack if he pulls some dumb shit like that.

Seems to be a running theme in your shitty little posts. ARguments backed by nothing.

Then Naruto removes them and how far will he place them? because the aoe of BDFRS is enormous. Yea because Naruto they can match Naruto tit for tat when his chakra > All of theirs combined lol.

Dodge his ps blade like Kaguya did Sasuke's and to add he cannot kill clones and throw kamui shuriken so your point is moot lol.

Naruto is not Kaguya, and a falling apart PS isn't Kakashi's PS. Try again. Try again.

Sigh Hashirama is a super non factor 100m Naruto BDFRS explosion is about 1000 meters and a sphere so minato is not reacting period. Naruto clones forms BDFRS shunshin between all of them then lets it off K.O there dead. Kakashi non existence pressure Kurama avatar matched a much much stronger susanoo yet will lose to Kakashi's boy bye also Naruto using BDFRS while Kurama uses Bijuu dama barrage ends them.

None of that proves Minato can't react. :lol The explosion radius isn't related to speed so why you even bothered to mention that is beyond me.

-Naruto's clones stop to form BDFRS.
-PS swings it's blade and obliterates every clone with it's shockwaves as Naruto has no defense nor can he evade.

Try again. Kurama Avatar isn't even a factor considering Myojinmon can pin a far superior Bijuu.

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so he easily explodes it before the kamui shuriken hit him what stops him from using a clone to fly right over to them dodging the ps blade then exploding? nothing your team gets eviscerated. Sigh your dumb af not all his bijuu variants of FRS uses the gudodama so the rinsing and repeat does work here look at it like this we got Kurama shooting Bijuu dama barrages or Flash BD while Naruto hands off his Gudo damas to a clone who uses 6 BDFRS while other clones spam the other bijuu variant abilities. This is such a stomp kid.

That's YRS. Not Bijuu Dama RS. Try again. He did the same thing with FRS against Pain yet he hasn't ever been able to do anything similar with his other explosive techs in Bijuu Mode.

Doesnt need to block when he can dodge Multiple clones using BDFRS from different directions wreck Kakashi's ps who all alone in the air by himself.

@bold: The fact that you can't prove Naruto can dodge Kakashi's swords. The fact that you can't prove Naruto can evade the Shuriken that can outspeed something that he called "too fast".

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:lol Cut the BS son.

If you are talking about any other FRS that isn't Bijuu Dama FRS then Kakashi tanks it with PS. Flash BD aren't happening as Kurama Avatar gets pinned by Myojinmon the moment it appears. If a clone uses 6 BDFRS then Kamui Shuriken and S/T Barrier warp them.

Myojinmon is sensed miles before it get anywhere near Naruto and is dodged or he just snaps it up like Juubito or clones on stand bye breaks it to pieces those gates are a non factor. It does'nt change the fact he out numbers them with his projectiles and S/T barrier can only take 1 attack at time Naruto can strike from all area's as well then add Minato won't have no outside marking and cannot use S/t barrier forever lol. If push comes to shove Naruto outlast them.

-No speed feats for Naruto in his Avatar that let him dodge Myojinmon.
-No strength feats for him in his Avatar that let him destroy Myojinmon.

Irrelevant af when Sasuke's speed >>>>>>> Kakashi so your point is not being helped here at all he only landed a punch because she let him lol when he tried to deliver a damaging blow she was not touched at all and as you always claim she was slower and weak because her chakra was low hence the reason she was blitz by Naruto moments latter so by your logic my point still stands. Naruto speed = Sasuke's flight speed and flight speed is irrelevant evasion speed and reaction is what matter here simple how Obito was zip zapping through Naruto and Sasuke's attacks. S/t barrier is shit useless since Minato will not get it up in time, This boy is wearing out these kamui shuriken arguments like a mofo. if Kakashi engage Naruto in CQC he's not prepping his Kamui shuriken or like i said for the 100 time he can fake them out with duds.

Sasuke being able to hit Kaguya destroys the only evidence you had for Naruto being able to dodge Kakashi's attacks. Without that you are doing nothing but making baseless claims.

-Naruto's flight speed is not equal to Sasuke's Susanoo's flight speed. Baseless.
-Naruto being able to dodge KAmui Shuriken and PS strikes is based on nothing of course.

The rest have been addressed. If Kakashi engages Naruto in CQC he rapes Naruto a 100 times over as Naruto won't be in his Avatar due to Myojinmon.

Addressed. Minato is not warping nothing you think Minato will have enough time to set up kunai outside the aoe of a BDFRS then hop in susanoo before Naruto gets BDFRS off? child bye Lol and while they're fighting the real Naruto a clones blitz Hashirama off SS head killing him. Stop base Naruto could split the god tree without even using a chou version of his FRS bijuu variants RSM naruto using Chou demolishes His Susanoo which have 0 durability feats.

Before? There is no before he gets it off. Kamui Shuriken warps 4 from the first round, then the remaining two are overpowered by SS and then if Naruto throws them again he gets warped away. If Naruto stops to prepare and throw all 6 BDFRS then Kakashi simply warps them away at that moment instead of waiting for Naruto to throw them.

-Splitting the Shinju is an irrelevant feat as the Shinju's durability feats are trash.
-Naruto's Bijuu Dama>>>Any FRS he can make yet it can't destroy Sasuke's PS, so it's not going to one shot Kakashi's PS let alone far weaker FRS variants. :lol Wank argument is a wank argument.

Not even close how is it stronger when it failed to destroy PS completely mind you a PS buffed by 50% Of Hagoromo chakra >>>>>>>>> Any normal ps and Kurama avatar is equal to Sasuke's ps so your have no phucking point dumbass. a superior Juubi? stop Obito was described to physically superior to juubi Hago Buff BM Kurama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juubito and every stat line only thing juubi has that is superior is firepower and even thats debatable. JJ chakra arms > Naruto's No his best feat his tossing back a BM kurama nothing impressive and chakra arms are dependent on the users chakra 50% Hagoromo plus chakra > incomplete juubi chakra wise so your point is not a point at all. Also even stated that suggest you believe Obito chakra arms can over power Amped Kurama child please his chakra arms could not even block Bijuu damas or susanoo arrow hence he used Gudo dama's. Also i guess those chakra arms > Juubidama because the barrier walls did not insatly shatter when the and pressure of Juubi dama slammed against it but was shredded by chakra arms you sound dumb af.

Lmao look at this little boy getting rustled that someone's challenged his fave. Epitome of lame behavior. :lol

Not interested in your calculations. The feats show that an attack weaker than Chojo Kebutsu can damage Sasuke's PS. That's fact.

-Proof that Hagoromo's chakra>Juubi's chakra? Oh wait. The proof doesn't exist.

Juubi>>>Kurama w/ 8 Bijuu and RSM's physical power by feats. Naruto's chakra arms do not have a feat on par with ripping apart the Hokage's barrier. Get me those feats if you think they exist or don't post again. Not interested in your terrible attempt at power scaling. You've embarrassed yourself enough for one night.

-chakra arms being unable to BLOCK something is irrelevant to OFFENSE. BLOCKING IS DEFENSE. Irrelevant point.

So when did Obito gain Mokuton or tree abilities outside of the shinju? ill wait that's obivously an extension of juubi's ability of being god tree but i expected you to be ignorant.

Prove your point or don't post. That simple.

Despite most of its power was focused to cut the tree Madara was chopped in half By Sasuke lighting blade which i guess can chop god tree in half as well.

Addressed.

Crying because it's boost that it's not going to cut is not helping these desperate azs arguments. Normal FRS has no problem chopping rocks in half Give FRS Hagoromo boost and Make it mountain size it cuts Mountains to. Madara sword only cut mountain ranges because of the shockwaves it leaves behind and i do not even get your point lol because Each FRS explodes into a blast attack and that what destroys the Susanoo so you have no point.

Based on nothing. Madara cutting Mountain Ranges with just a shockwave only means his blade is much more powerful than that. BDFRS doesn't have cutting power on that level, and if you think it exists you better prove it or stop replying to me. Idiotic attempts at powerscaling get you nowhere.

And lmao. Now this idiot wants to start talking about how BDFRS's power comes from the explosion (After I mention it of course) despite him crying about it's cutting power in the post I replied to.

Lol read above this shit has been addressed to hell and the BDFRS explosion dwarfs God tree stump which dwarfs SS and its raw power alone should tell you that it >>>>>>>>> That weak azs VOTE clase from Madara and Hashirama. Perfect Susanoo compared to Obito's barrier

BDFRS's explosion is only twice as large as the Meteors, thus twice as large as the Shinju's stump. VoTE explosion>>That explosion in size. Nothing more to say here. You comparing the size of the constructs in question literally proves nothing.

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This should tell you alone that the explosion sizes are not comparable so you can stop this pissy azs argument about size = power when once forced is amped by Hagoromo lol. Still talking about Kamui shurikens good lord lol. LMFAO at this team physically overpowering 2 BDFRS when there feats does not even began to measure up.



Based on my evidence shitting on yours.

:lol What the hell did you think this was going to prove? Yeah, good job. You've proven that PS is smaller than the explosions. SS too. Too bad this doesn't say a thing about power. Get back at me when you can form an argument worthy of a response.

Wrong 50% of Hagoromo's chakra > Incomplete Juubi's so you have no point the same chakra arms that we're pushed to their limit by a giant Senjutsu rasengan Lol Obito opting to go strickly gudo dama defense and offense shows you his gudo dama > his chakra arms and BSM Naruto Bijuu dama blow pieces off his gudo dama Not to mention K11 slashed through a block of his Gudo dama sheild like it was nothing.

-First sentence is based on nothing.
-Second is irrelevant to physical strength.
-The third sentence is based on nothing of course.

Keeping up with Sasuke avatar and Naruto reacting to Sasuke ameno blitz from close range what speed feat does hotei gates have on anything mobile and are we really suggestion a Rikudou Character cannot dodge these gates good lawd im done.

So basically no real evasion feats and the same old "he's a rikudo character so he can do anything" argument huh? Gotcha. :lol

Naruto has clones that can use and his hotei gates are dodged boy you got your ass owned.

-Addressed.
-Addressed.

Don't expect another reply if garbage like this is what you have coming next. Garbage post from a trash poster. Top 5 worst posters in the entire VS section's history.

 

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Destroying CTs big enough with the curvature of the planet showing in the background>>>>>making mountains look small:lol. All being done casually

 

[KidGamer65]

Destroying CTs big enough with the curvature of the planet showing in the background>>>>>making mountains look small:lol. All being done casually

Kratos, if you aren't going to actually address the actual argument on this topic and instead just throw out random statements that literally don't connect or mean anything then you are wasting your effort posting.

Lmao embarrassing how people love to say "Nardo raypes" yet I see nothing but struggle arguments for his victory here.

 

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I'll give you one more chance to reply with something sensible. After that you can argue with yourself.

Please shutup.

Bijuu Dama explosion size is POWER. Fact. Where are you getting the idiotic nonsense that the standard BDs weren't all equal in power from? Oh wait, nowhere besides your ass. :lol If the explosion is the same size, the power is the same. End of story.

That is only a fact when the bijuu dama power is not being acting upon by an additional chakra force when that is the case which it most definitely is in this scenario the a bijuu dama of smaller proportion > the bigger one.

Rikudo Chakra isn't an excuse. Rikudo chakra increases the power of the jutsu, thus the size of the explosion. If a BD enhanced by any kind of power is smaller than any other Bijuu Dama in explosion size then it's weaker.

Makes zero since since Naruto's standard BD is about the same size and are we suggestion bm naruto bijuu dama = rsm Naruto's no so dumbass post. Stop if 2 bijuu dama's explosions are the same size yet one is enhanced by 50% of a much more power power source by default it > the other so that's makes your shitty size argument irrelevant asf.

No, BDFRS is not stronger than RSM Naruto's BD. The Gudo Dama being used is irrelevant and doesn't even begin to prove your point.If the Gudo Dama's properties were added to the BD then you wouldn't see rubble from the explosion as the Gudo Dama disintegrates. The explosion is smaller, thus it's weaker. . Being larger than rocks as large as the Shinju's trunk is irrelevant because Naruto's BD is far larger than the Shinju's root and it really isn't even close.

Yes it is even going by your logic on being larger makes automatically stronger but once again you contradicting yourself because your using your shitty logic per usual. Rubble was never seen falling from them in this

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the rocks are getting vaporized and regarless if they're breaking up or not it's an explosion BDFRS is not like jinton if it was used and it's already explosive form from the start would have been a clean slate of vaporization. This is explosion is not smaller than that VOTE explosion please stop being ignorant i already threw some calc in there to prove you wrong and even if i was calculation was off it would not be bye that much where' SS or whatever would be able to come out of a BDFRS explosion alive then add the Hagoromo boost your ignorance is making you ignore the obvious.

4.The VoTE explosion is easily larger than the explosion from Chidori and Bijuu Dama.

Mountains compared to the VoTE explosion. [

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The mountains are smaller in the VOTE 1 explosion also add Sasuke and Naruto was in the center of the blast while the Bijuu damas that went off against Hashirama and Madara we're well past both them

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Meaning the we're not hit from the center and the Center is the apex of an explosion hence the center of the sun being 15m more hotter than the surface or the outer layer same concept applies for a Bijuu dama. Add that we saw raw explosion from the latter while what your comparing is the dust and debri the bijuu dama's kicked up which is false look at FRS Debri compared to the actually explosion

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trying to base it off debri is a terrible example for your arguments. Then to even take a bigger dump even if the explosions we're the same size one is being amped by a much more powerful power source so it takes a dump on the latter.

Based on what? Oh wait. Nothing at all.

Based on the shinju being tiers bigger than it.

The point is, YRS has trash feats for you to be saying it cuts PS in half. :lol Whether or not Madara is more durable than the Shinju is irrelevant. Get me the feats or please stop arguing. It's really that simple.

No it's not because unless you think Sasuke's kusangi slicing power is better than a Lava FRS enhanced by Rikudou chakra than your a fool. i Gave you feats a smaller branch being able after the quad juubi dama went off but you denied it because you cannot counter it.

That's not evidence that Naruto can outspeed his own attacks. Sasuke moving as fast as Naruto's attacks isn't evidence that Naruto can move faster than his own attacks. Especially since you are claiming Naruto can fly as fast as PS, which is also based on nothing.

Yes that is evidence when Naruto and Sasuke fought their we're even in every stat line outside out destructive capabilities, Naruto was already shown flying as fast as Perfect Susanoo so my point remains.

Disguise? With Kakashi, Hashirama and Minato watching him? Lol stupid as hell. Not to mention that means he has an extra Bijuu Dama, so the plan is made so obvious that he might as well not try. Kamui Shuriken still warps them.

Disguise with a clone simple as that. Hashirama and Minato watching means nothing when they cannot see or tell the difference between what is a clone and what is not a clone, What are you even talking about lol dumb. This post does not remotely counter what i said literally just a bunch of jibber jabber.

Shooting chakra hands? Nope. Not unless his chakra hands have feat that make them faster than his own attacks.

They don't need to when the clone will be in front of the the BDFRS or holding when flying up to them and when it's holding it guide it's chakra arms out to intercept the Kamui shurikens.

Put a clone in front of it? :lol What kind of garbage is this? His clone gets raped by his own attack if he pulls some dumb shit like that.

The clone is in front acting like a premature attack so when the kamui shurikens are shot off it could just shunshin into them or extend his chakra arm to set them off early.

Naruto is not Kaguya, and a falling apart PS isn't Kakashi's PS. Try again. Try again.

Did not counter how Minato is going to set up everything but i expected that from you. Naruto does not need to be Kaguya because Kakashi is not Sasuke Susanoo blade is easy enough to dodge when in the air because no shockwaves is present hence the reason shin was only knicked by Sasuke's and Naruto evasive feats still beats Kakashi's offensive feats with his ps blade.

None of that proves Minato can't react. :lol The explosion radius isn't related to speed so why you even bothered to mention that is beyond me.

The explosion radius does not need to be related to speed when it's guided by a quick clone who can set it off anytime he wants to so it does not matter.

Naruto's clones stop to form BDFRS.
PS swings it's blade and obliterates every clone with it's shockwaves as Naruto has no defense nor can he evade.

Perfect susanoo in the air has no shockwaves if so Kaguya would have definitely been atleast blown back

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she just barely dodged but no force of shockwave even tossed her off balance of anything shows there is no shock waves when airborne. Why would they need to stop to form BDFRS? because it helps your argument? not going to work here.

Try again. Kurama Avatar isn't even a factor considering Myojinmon can pin a far superior Bijuu.

Only superior in fire power and durability nothing else it was practically

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by Mountain sandwhich while the latter did not even budge Gedo mazo this is a showing of how weak juubi is physically not to mention choji and his dad were able to hold Juubi

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. Then add Obito snappped those hotei gates in half with ease. Dodging is also an option and with the sensing abilities of Naruto that is not a factor.

That's YRS. Not Bijuu Dama RS. Try again. He did the same thing with FRS against Pain yet he hasn't ever been able to do anything similar with his other explosive techs in Bijuu Mode.

I was talking about the other variants of his FRS it's not just wind but their bijuu ability, He has been never shown to attempt again there is difference.

Doesnt need to block when he can dodge Multiple clones using BDFRS from different directions wreck Kakashi's ps who all alone in the air by himself.

What is his dodging feats? ill wait... Kakashi is not dodging a clone using a shunshin then BDFRS destroys his susanoo with no problem. I agree with the latter part of the sentence finally learning.

@bold: The fact that you can't prove Naruto can dodge Kakashi's swords. The fact that you can't prove Naruto can evade the Shuriken that can outspeed something that he called "too fast".

What offensive speed feats does Kakashi have with his susanoo sword to say Naruto cannot dodge your the one with the burden of proof son. Grasping at straws after Naruto tossed his clones off the sphere for Sasuke to sit there they had no further problems dodging those hands which had to switch gears for Sakura who is much slower than both and even then only would have got her because of it's sheer size not speed. SMH Naruto cannot evade Kamui shuriken now they move at the speed as normal shuriken furthermore how did they out speed those hands when the hands came straight forward at Kakashi and he just threw the shuriken at them that's not a speed feat or even a interception feat.

If you are talking about any other FRS that isn't Bijuu Dama FRS then Kakashi tanks it with PS. Flash BD aren't happening as Kurama Avatar gets pinned by Myojinmon the moment it appears. If a clone uses 6 BDFRS then Kamui Shuriken and S/T Barrier warp them.

Based off what can Kakashi Susanoo tank those attacks? Nothing especially not all 9 of them so you don't have a point at all. Kurama avatar dodges it or simple snaps it apart like Juubito did with his inferior chakra arms. Naruto could have clones on stand by and destroy with FRS variants and it will Gojo destroyed hotei gates without a problem any frs coming from RSM Naruto rapes them.

No speed feats for Naruto in his Avatar that let him dodge Myojinmon.
No strength feats for him in his Avatar that let him destroy Myojinmon.

Keeping up with Sasuke's Susanoo which got above Madara's Chibaku tensei rain

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he was atleast 10k feet high. That should have been obvious or he could just shunshin to the side. The fact i had to spoon feed you those facts show how ignorant and dumb your being. Does not need feats because Naruto in this state Kurama>>> v1 juubito who snapped those gates like it was nothing. Now you post scans of the hotei gates landing a moving target.

Sasuke being able to hit Kaguya destroys the only evidence you had for Naruto being able to dodge Kakashi's attacks. Without that you are doing nothing but making baseless claims.

How? According to you Kaguya was low on chakra and She in canon dodged Sasuke's attacks that would cause her damage. Note Sasuke is a kenjutsu master meaning his sword play is above Kakashi who was not shown to even hold a sword through the entire part one series so again you have no point and what kakashi susanoo sword feats?

Naruto's flight speed is not equal to Sasuke's Susanoo's flight speed. Baseless.

Yes it is look at the BSM Naruto and Sasuke against Juubito fighting evenly in every state except for destructive power add the same boost to each nothing changes and when Sasuke was sky high about to perform his ps chidori Naruto got to him before he could finish it showing their speed is equal in their avatar forms.

Naruto being able to dodge KAmui Shuriken and PS strikes is based on nothing of course.

Him not being able to dodge is baseless but considering your trying to make a debate out of naruto not being able to dodge kamui shurikens this shows the desperation in your arguments.

The rest have been addressed. If Kakashi engages Naruto in CQC he rapes Naruto a 100 times over as Naruto won't be in his Avatar due to Myojinmon.

Countered you have to be a fool to think Kakashi rapes when his ps has 0 cqc feats.

Before? There is no before he gets it off. Kamui Shuriken warps 4 from the first round, then the remaining two are overpowered by SS and then if Naruto throws them again he gets warped away. If Naruto stops to prepare and throw all 6 BDFRS then Kakashi simply warps them away at that moment instead of waiting for Naruto to throw them.

Kamui shuriken is not warping nothing when the clones with be in Kakashi's face and can dodge your post did not counter my argument at when they can stay right in Kakashi's personal space then set them off. Naruto is not going to throw them when he a clone a shunshin next to kakashi then detonate the BDFRS blowing Kakashi away. Naruto does not need to stop to prepare them don't know where you getting that from and if Kakashi is in rench with ps exploding the BDFRS near him blows his Susanoo away with as its Aoe can contain atleast of Perfect susanoo so your plan is not going to work and also Kamui shuriken is useless because 1 BDFRS range of effect >>>>>> the kamui shuriken warp hole. Lol at SS overpowering to BDFRS or reacting to Naruto's Shunshin when Kaguya herself could not you sound stupid.

Splitting the Shinju is an irrelevant feat as the Shinju's durability feats are trash.
Naruto's Bijuu Dama>>>Any FRS he can make yet it can't destroy Sasuke's PS, so it's not going to one shot Kakashi's PS let alone far weaker FRS variants. :lol Wank argument is a wank argument.

Nope a smaller piece of the shinju withstood quad Juubi dama different attacks work different for defenses. It not destroying Sasuke perfect so its not going to destroy Kakashi's bih stop Sasuke has 50% of Hagoromo chakra straight from the source Kakashi has watered down chakra from Madara and Obito which was about 10% Their Perfect Susanoo's are not even in the same weight class. People using that word wank i don't even like Naruto lol shutup.

Lmao look at this little boy getting rustled that someone's challenged his fave. Epitome of lame behavior. :lol

Sasuke is not even in this matchup tha phuck lol.

Not interested in your calculations. The feats show that an attack weaker than Chojo Kebutsu can damage Sasuke's PS. That's fact.

Just listen to yourself implying an attack weaker than that VOTE attack is applying Madara's susanoo is just a stronk as Sasuke's or even stronger so dumb your not interested in my calcs because they shit on your arguments.

Proof that Hagoromo's chakra>Juubi's chakra? Oh wait. The proof doesn't exist.

Prove why it does't 1 rinnegan Madara post juubi would lose to either Naruto or Sasuke with hagoromo's chakra and ounce of his chakra turn a MS user into a Juubi jin level opponent it's obvious that Hagoromo's chakra > Juubi's

Juubi>>>Kurama w/ 8 Bijuu and RSM's physical power by feats. Naruto's chakra arms do not have a feat on par with ripping apart the Hokage's barrier. Get me those feats if you think they exist or don't post again.

No it does not when its was smashed by mountain sandwhich failed to overpower hotei gates while Juubito destroyed it with no diff with chakra arms that was overwhelmed by a puny senjutsu rasengan.

chakra arms being unable to BLOCK something is irrelevant to OFFENSE. BLOCKING IS DEFENSE. Irrelevant point.

They're offense is equal to their defense dumbass the just chakra arms so that proves that they're not tough at all like i was saying.

Prove your point or don't post. That simple.

I did prove it disprove my point on Obito gaining some wood style abilities.

Based on nothing. Madara cutting Mountain Ranges with just a shockwave only means his blade is much more powerful than that. BDFRS doesn't have cutting power on that level,

Based off it's being amped by Hagoromo. Your point on Madara has been addressed and does not counter my argument anyways so... Suggestiong BDFRS Blades cannot cut a mountain when i explained in detail while they can is just denial debunk what i posted or stop posting all together.

BDFRS's explosion is only twice as large as the Meteors, thus twice as large as the Shinju's stump. VoTE explosion>>That explosion in size. Nothing more to say here. You comparing the size of the constructs in question literally proves nothing.

Sasuke Perfect susanoo is not visible from the aoe of BDFRS yet the explosion at vote which 90% of your argument falls back is bigger when its just dust delete your account already stop sprouting this nonsense. Nowhere near the size of BDFRS the stump literally dwarfs SS look at the chunks the fell off compared to mountain ranges

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These chunks are much larger than mountain ranges and the whole chibaku tensei was much much larger than the chunks while BDFRS explosion was larger than the Chibaku tensei's as a whole stop being ignorant be choice.

lol What the hell did you think this was going to prove? Yeah, good job. You've proven that PS is smaller than the explosions. SS too. Too bad this doesn't say a thing about power. Get back at me when you can form an argument worthy of a response.

Sigh when the majority off post is above size when im trying to tell you power comes to into account then when i counter your size argument then the power argument that you been denying becomes relevant again? Boy you lawst give it up LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

First sentence is based on nothing.
-Second is irrelevant to physical strength.
-The third sentence is based on nothing of course.

Denial at its finest.

So basically no real evasion feats and the same old "he's a rikudo character so he can do anything" argument huh? Gotcha. :lol

No real evasion feats he dodged Kaguya grab which snatched up Sasuke. Where is these undodgable offensive feats ill wait. or better yet the hotei gates hitting anything that tried to dodge them if they we're so powerful why didn't hashirama use them against Madara?

Don't expect another reply

Was tired of reading the bullchit your called logic anyways.

Top 5 worst posters in the entire VS section's history.

you was serious af when you said this lmao mad ass.

Naruto rapes this like i said

 

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More garbage huh? :lol Then I'll wait to see if DA ever decides to respond. Don't have the patience to deal with a troll on the level of yourself.

 

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More garbage huh? :lol Then I'll wait to see if DA ever decides to respond. Don't have the patience to deal with a troll on the level of yourself.

Your literally arguing with the hole thread here maybe your the wrong one.

 

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Shinsusenju or kamui shurikens?

I'm assuming this is Naruto without Ashura avatar.

Anyhow, Hashirama is capable of outputting more energy with Shinsusenju than Naruto without Ashuura avatar. Also in such a large avatar, I don't see how Naruto would counter kamui snipe without clones and while being busy dealing with Hashirama and Minato.

Without clones for Naruto the team wins.

Hashirama isn't a hard counter to RSM Naruto but he can soften up the Avatar enough for them to breach it, between dropping Heavens Gates and his Mokuton. Between that and Kakashi with PS and Minato with (I'm assuming) his own BM, they could eliminate his avatar and take down Naruto, high diff.

With clones Naruto merks tho

Naruto gets babyshaked

Naruto would struggle just to take down Kakashi. This is a massacre.

-Hashirama drops God gates on Kurama and any avatar clones, immobilizing them.
-Naruto's Bijudama variants output less power than what Shinsuusenju already withstood by far. Bijudama from the avatar gets sent back while Bijudama Rasenshuriken is simply withstood. Kakashi also warps it away with Kamui Shurikens if he wants.
-Chojo Kebetsu can destroy the Kurama avatar.
-Naruto's Asura mode Rasenshuriken's are warped away by Minato or Kakashi.
-Asura Kurama has no feats to suggest that it's more durable than the normal avatar to the point that Chojo Kebetsu can't destroy it. Both Asura Kurama and Perfect Susano'o took the same damage from Naruto & Sasuke's final clash.

Without avatar clones ,Naruto wouldn't be able to even gather the mass NE or construct AA . the team definitely win low diff .kakashi can most likely solo .Naruto's avatar gets destroyed by kamui snipe and most of his attacks get either evaded by PS or blocked with kamui shrukens .avatar-less Naruto gets killed by PS .the team win with ease like the sage 456 explained .

Look at the starting distance. Naruto isn't blitzing anyone from 100 m.

What exactly is the Ashura Avatar? Just the cloak when Naruto is in RSM or what?

OT: I think team takes it...

Well, as DSM Kakashi has Rikudo Chakra as well, he can react at Naruto with Kamui, and Kamui's attack and defense is absolute. He reacts to Kaguya's ash-bones and lets them slip through, despite the fact that Kaguya was at the peak of her strength and speed [

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He can also spam Kamui shuriken, each being able to cut of a giant tail through absorption. No matter what Naruto throws at him, Kamui Shuriken can absorb it. Spamming Gudou Dama Shuriken? Kamui Shuriken drag them to the other dimension.

Hashirama and Minato are not much of a factor. Rikudo Obito already outclassed the Hokage and Rikudo Obito is inferior to One eye Rinnegan Madara, who, on the other hand is inferior to RSM Naruto.

Yup. The whole thread is against me everyone. Shitty at arguing and shitty at basic math. I'm 100% done.

 

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You posted the same people twice and didn't strict agrees Naruto wins? Lol

Tre, Kra, Demonic Aveng, Almighty unorthodox, Beans, etc, your 100% done because you know you lawst lol.