Hashirama Doesn't Beat EVERYBODY

[Minator93]

Hashirama loses to Edo Madara and Obito U_U

However he can take the rest!

 

[The Legendary Noob]

Your main point is that if he touches Hashi but Hashi has multiple ways to avoid being touched. Rashoman gates, Mokuton defense (dome wall: surrounding himself in Mokuton), and sage mode has enhanced reflexes. Since Sakura and Chiyo were able to avoid most of Iron sand without SM, I think Hashi would be able to handle himself, with or without it. How would the 3rd Kazekage avoid Hashi's large scale techniques, or even FTW, a move that activates fairly quickly as Madara showed.

When Sasori manipulated the 3rd Kazekage, the 3rd Kazekage wasn't on his own free will.
It was like Sasori was moving for him. Sasori seems less experienced than the 3rd Kazekage, so I'm guessing the 3rd Kazekage would have waay more experience and moves he could use.

You think Jiton is all the 3rd Kazekage has right? He would have more jutsu than just Jiton just like how Hashirama has more Jutsu than just Mokuton. You're also forgetting that 3rd Kazekage could manipulate the sand too. How big is Rashumon? 3rd Kazekage could just put more sand up and let it flood over the Rashumon gates, or even make them flow past it. Hashirama isn't invincible.

The only way for raikage to beat madara is only if he's already at like 10 meters distance. And only if EMS cant read his movements

Sharingan would let the user read his movements I'm afraid you're right...

BUT IT DOESN'T ENSURE THAT YOU CAN REACT TO IT!
...and I'm sure Madara isn't as fast as Raikage.

 

[Kαmi]

When Sasori manipulated the 3rd Kazekage, the 3rd Kazekage wasn't on his own free will.
It was like Sasori was moving for him. Sasori seems less experienced than the 3rd Kazekage, so I'm guessing the 3rd Kazekage would have waay more experience and moves he could use.

You think Jiton is all the 3rd Kazekage has right? He would have more jutsu than just Jiton just like how Hashirama has more Jutsu than just Mokuton. You're also forgetting that 3rd Kazekage could manipulate the sand too. How big is Rashumon? 3rd Kazekage could just put more sand up and let it flood over the Rashumon gates, or even make them flow past it. Hashirama isn't invincible.

But that's only speculation, we can't assume that the Kazekage was more skilled than that. Sasori said he was his favorite puppet so you can imagine he had practice with the third anyway. If we're doing a match-up with a character that we haven't even fight himself, you can only can go with what was shown of him. That being said, Jiton is all you can give to him cause it's all we've seen him do. Yes Hashi and him probably have a huge arsenal of other moves but that's only speculation so it's pointless to worry about it. We can't say he can manipulate sand cause we didn't see Sasori use that move of the 3rd. And Rashoman, is huge and covers plenty of area. Rashoman could easily but Hashi enough time to use a technique to go on the offensive while he shields the sand. I'm not saying he's invincible at all, but the 3rd Kazekage just can't deal with Hashi. Now Obito on the other hand is a different story, he probably has the best chance at taking out Hashi if anyone

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hashirama loses to Edo Madara and Obito U_U
However he can take the rest!

I would say nagato with that soul eating dragon has good chance.

 

[The Legendary Noob]

But that's only speculation, we can't assume that the Kazekage was more skilled than that. Sasori said he was his favorite puppet so you can imagine he had practice with the third anyway. If we're doing a match-up with a character that we haven't even fight himself, you can only can go with what was shown of him. That being said, Jiton is all you can give to him cause it's all we've seen him do. Yes Hashi and him probably have a huge arsenal of other moves but that's only speculation so it's pointless to worry about it. We can't say he can manipulate sand cause we didn't see Sasori use that move of the 3rd. And Rashoman, is huge and covers plenty of area. Rashoman could easily but Hashi enough time to use a technique to go on the offensive while he shields the sand. I'm not saying he's invincible at all, but the 3rd Kazekage just can't deal with Hashi. Now Obito on the other hand is a different story, he probably has the best chance at taking out Hashi if anyone

The 3rd does have a good chance. You're just blinded by all this hype they give you.
I'm done really talking about this since you're a person who just keeps on saying the same thing over and over, "HASHI WON'T LOOSE 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THE 3RD KAZEKAGE HAS A CHANCE!" so there's no need to continue. Reminds me of one of Nagato's quotes...

"You and I are no different. We each act according to our own sense of justice. The justice I have meted out against Konoha is no different than what you are trying to mete out against me."

...but instead of Konoha it's The 3rd Kazekage.
...and the "Jutsice" is who we think would actually win.

What you are trying to mete out is, "I think Hahsirama is going to win."
What I am trying to mete out is, "I think The 3rd Kazekage is going to win."

 

[Draphsin]

Hashi's wood caught a tbb...Iron sand would be puny compared to something like that (unless you think iron sand can tank a tbb). Also hashi's trump card combined with mokuton clones can deal with sasori's puppets.

Im a sasori fan so I know his skillset and what he's capable of and frankly, sasori doesnt have the strength to take on hashi (however i didnt say that he wont stand a chance)

 

[The Legendary Noob]

Hashi's wood caught a tbb...Iron sand would be puny compared to something like that (unless you think iron sand can tank a tbb). Also hashi's trump card combined with mokuton clones can deal with sasori's puppets.

Im a sasori fan so I know his skillset and what he's capable of and frankly, sasori doesnt have the strength to take on hashi (however i didnt say that he wont stand a chance)

Wasn't talking about Sasori.
I was talking about The 3rd Kazekage.

...and The 3rd Kazekage could Manipulate his Sand. he could probably manipulate it into a Giant Iron Wall, or Bag that could catch/block the TBB.
Hashi's Wood is made of Wood right? Iron is harder and sturdier than Wood, so I'm coming to the conclusion that The 3rd Kazekage could also protect himself from the TBB with his Iron Sand.

 

[Ryuujinn]

U forgot so many things
Wood substitution
Wood clone jutsu
exectional chakra control
wood shield jutsu
golem jutsu wood god jutsu
wood dragon jutsu
instant healing medic abilities
thousand hands jutsu
tell me how anybody can counter these jutsus then i agree
and yeah there are lots more first answer this

 

[shogun973]

3rd raikage would give him work..that summon wouldnt have enough time and would probably be split seeing at how its would and human break wood. plus black lightning and genjutsu resistance

 

[Draphsin]

Wasn't talking about Sasori.
I was talking about The 3rd Kazekage.

...and The 3rd Kazekage could Manipulate his Sand. he could probably manipulate it into a Giant Iron Wall, or Bag that could catch/block the TBB.
Hashi's Wood is made of Wood right? Iron is harder and sturdier than Wood, so I'm coming to the conclusion that The 3rd Kazekage could also protect himself from the TBB with his Iron Sand.

If sasori can kill the 3rd kazekage then whats the difference if he's stronger anyways? It would be harder to kill sasori then it would be the 3rd

No kazekage has been shown to be able to have techniques on scale with hashi, the 3rd would be overwhelmed, and since the kazekage can only manipulate iron sand and not create it, that puts him at a major disadvantage to someone who can create his nature release out of thin air.

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

I'm no Hashirama fanboy, hell honestly I haven't seen enough of him to even be one but from what we've seen there can be no doubt that he would beat anyone

 

[The Legendary Noob]

If sasori can kill the 3rd kazekage then whats the difference if he's stronger anyways? It would be harder to kill sasori then it would be the 3rd

No kazekage has been shown to be able to have techniques on scale with hashi, the 3rd would be overwhelmed, and since the kazekage can only manipulate iron sand and not create it, that puts him at a major disadvantage to someone who can create his nature release out of thin air.

Thee's that bit of A > B > C logic again.
3rd Kazekage is Sunagakure's strongest Kage.
Idk how he lost to Sasori, maybe he was caught off guard, or Sasori tried to kill him in his sleep or something, but all I know is that the 3rd Kazekage isn't some pushover like you guys are making him sound like.

 

[reizon]

hashirama solos so6p and the jubbi combined.

 

[ace boss of fire]

one of the only possible match is edo madara

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Because hashirama is the man

 

[stoikis]

people overrate hashirama
obito>hashi
edo madara>hashi

 

[johnny335704]

Hashirama can beat 3rd Kazekage.
3rd Kazekage has iron sand and normal sand at his disposal.
Hashirama has mokuton jutsus like wood dragon & flower tree world, Senju Sage Mode, Bringer of The Darkenss genjutsu, Super Healing Abilities and great weapon/taijutsu proficiency.

3rd Kazekage does not have this much chakra to cover / drown Hashirama's mokuton or Sage Mode Buddha structure or his wood dragons. Even 3rd Kazekage will do it, he will run out of chakra & Hashi will defeat him. Also 3rd Kazekage has to be careful from Flowr Tree World and Hashi's taijutsu / genjutsu as well.

And Hashi can not beat everybody. Like many edos at a time. Against some shinobis, he may have hard time too. But yes, in 1-on-1 against any shinobi, Hashi always has very good chances of winning because of his skills, great jutsus with all ranges and varieties.

 

[VongolaX]

Oh sure because Mokuton the whole earth it's self is weaker than iron sand that can't even measure up to gaara's sand. smh

 

[bigfatloser]

Is there any actual proof of the 3rd Kazekage being able to manipulate sand? I ask because there's nothing in the wiki stating he can, do you have a scan backing this up?

 

[7Zero]

hashirama solos so6p and the jubbi combined.

This pretty much sums it.