Hashirama Doesn't Beat EVERYBODY

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of all the people who have sufficient hax to defeat hashi, you chose third kazekage? wow.
kakashi, obito, kabuto, danzo and madara all have decent shots at taking out hashirama.

its likely sasori used his poison. one scratch and even hashirama wil fall

obito disagrees. madara is the nidaime rikudo

kabuto with edo army, obito with edo jins
I chose the 3rd Kazekage because they both have Jutsu capable of surrounding great distances.
Mokuton could create large forests.
Jiton could create large seas of Sand.

Hahsirama's hype is what causes everyone to think he's unbeatable.
3rd Kazekage's Jiton could be manipulated and is strong enough to break Hashirama's Mokuton.

People are just not opening their eyes and seeing what could actually happen in a fight against those two.
 

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Exactly. Muu, Kisame, Sasori (extremely high diff), Third Raikage, DSM Kabuto. Itachi maybe if he wasn't sick? those are the guys off the top of my head who could have a fighting chance against Hashirama.
See, now Kisame or another very skilled Suiton user could completely flood Hahsirama's Sand with a large amount of Water, making it hard for him to use his wood.
That's the same thing with Jiton. People aren't opening their eyes.

What happened when Gaara was faced with Oil? He was left unable to manipulate it like he usually would manipulate it. Things like this could determine a fight.

Think of what would happen if your opponent had a large sea of Water/Sand coming at you while your only defense was Wood and Trees? You would get overpowered by it and eventually be unable to use your Mokuton.
 

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o_O..dude.. 3rd Kazekage is not stronger then Gaara....

And also, Hashirama would just use Wood clones..



No offense but your list became a joke when you put Sasori in there. Noone on the list possess something strong as the Juubi's size... which is the same as Hashirama's buddha technique..
Sasori has never been seen to use his full potential remember that. It's those little techniques that take down the largest of opponents also remember this.
 

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People just try to rapid fire respond based on the title. It's really annoying.

But yeah, Hashi probably couldn't just defeat everyone that easily. In a battle of power with huge destructive jutsu, yes he's probably the king. But we've never seen him use any kind of finesse, speed, genjutsu, or intelligence so I think until we know everything about him there are plenty of holes for someone to exploit.

If we assume that he's not a sensor type, someone with high level genjutsu might be able to trap him.
If he doesn't have high-speed, Minato or A could have killed him with a quick pinpoint attack before he could create a defense
If he isn't extremely intelligent, a weaker ninja with higher intelligence may have been able to find a weak point to outsmart him.


I agree that it shouldn't be taken for granted that he would always win
Well i think there really is no question whether or not hashi would beat anyone. Lets go with the facts. he are madara were the strongest in their era. he beat madara. case closed. Se simple. As far as him being a god...well thats the nija worlds opinion not just people of the forum. honestly we dont know all of what he is capable of and we may never know. As far is genjutsu .....he is fighting madara....ems....obviously it dont work on him. There is just to much that we dont know about hashi. Im honestly in awe myself because even to this day there is no one stronger. And no im not a super hashi follower but at the moment i just would like to know more. I try to just stick to the facts and not speculate to much. It is what it is. there are other ninja thatt were good. But this guy was a cut above the rest. im looking foward to seeing more of is skills as well as seening if naruto manages to get to be as hashi was. i know you may not want to hear this but if naruto was dragonball z hashi would be goku. its just how it is. hell honestly i would not shock me if the author actually have hashi fight madara after he finishes the discussion he is having. It would be a great way for everyone to see and know the true power thay have.
 

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Well i think there really is no question whether or not hashi would beat anyone. Lets go with the facts. he are madara were the strongest in their era. he beat madara. case closed. Se simple. As far as him being a god...well thats the nija worlds opinion not just people of the forum. honestly we dont know all of what he is capable of and we may never know. As far is genjutsu .....he is fighting madara....ems....obviously it dont work on him. There is just to much that we dont know about hashi. Im honestly in awe myself because even to this day there is no one stronger. And no im not a super hashi follower but at the moment i just would like to know more. I try to just stick to the facts and not speculate to much. It is what it is. there are other ninja thatt were good. But this guy was a cut above the rest. im looking foward to seeing more of is skills as well as seening if naruto manages to get to be as hashi was. i know you may not want to hear this but if naruto was dragonball z hashi would be goku. its just how it is. hell honestly i would not shock me if the author actually have hashi fight madara after he finishes the discussion he is having. It would be a great way for everyone to see and know the true power thay have.
That was in their Era.
3rd Kazekage was probably in the Era of the 3rd Hokage or when Hashirama died.
In the Manga they said a new Generation would always surpass the old one.
Nobody could probably beat Hashirama then, but in the newer generations, I think it's possible.
 

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Naruto is about the guts to never give up and to protect the people who you love, thats what make you strong, jiraiya said so, when he was against orochimaru, that he shouldn't underestimate naruto's lake of skills, cuz he will eventually become the hokage oneday cuz he never gives up.

So yes harashima senju > everyone, he beat Madara with eternal mangekyou sharingan & 9-tails.
Hashirama had the perfect counter to Kyuubi.
His Mokuton could absorb chakra and could bind Kyuubi.
Kyuubi is just a being of Chakra and Hashirama had a counter to it.
...so tell me why it didn't matter if Madara had Kyuubi or not?
 

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FTW, SM, Bringer of Darkness, Wood God, Wood Dragon, Rashomon, Healing abilities, Few thousand hands, the DNA itself....
What compares except nothing?
 

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Im just curious who besides hashi could beat madara. Just curious
I think 3rd Raikage has a good chance of beating Madara.
Raikage could always take on Hachibi easily and seal it up every time it went berserk.
He could also fight Hachibi until they both collapsed.
He was probably one of the greatest Raikage that Kumogakure has ever seen.
His speed was on par with his Son, A which probably made him the fastest ninja of his time.
He fought 10,000 ninja for Three days straight until collapsing.

3rd Raikage should be able to end up beating Madara after a good fight.
 

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FTW, SM, Bringer of Darkness, Wood God, Wood Dragon, Rashomon, Healing abilities, Few thousand hands, the DNA itself....
What compares except nothing?
Once Hahsirama touches 3rd Kazekage's Iron Sand, he'll become Magnetized with it.
Then, the 3rd Kazekage could control Hashirama.
...and Plus, 3rd Kazekage could manipulate the Iron Sand to any shape.
If he magnetizes Hashirama, and then makes his Sea of Sand into a sea of Iron spikes, it's over.

It's that easy to beat Hashirama. That's just once way 3rd Kazekage could beat Hashirama.
 

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well, Hashi don't just have "trees" lol, he can also use water and earth separately if needed. add sage mode to that and he most likely can counter anyone.
 

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Once Hahsirama touches 3rd Kazekage's Iron Sand, he'll become Magnetized with it.
Then, the 3rd Kazekage could control Hashirama.
...and Plus, 3rd Kazekage could manipulate the Iron Sand to any shape.
If he magnetizes Hashirama, and then makes his Sea of Sand into a sea of Iron spikes, it's over.

It's that easy to beat Hashirama. That's just once way 3rd Kazekage could beat Hashirama.
Your main point is that if he touches Hashi but Hashi has multiple ways to avoid being touched. Rashoman gates, Mokuton defense (dome wall: surrounding himself in Mokuton), and sage mode has enhanced reflexes. Since Sakura and Chiyo were able to avoid most of Iron sand without SM, I think Hashi would be able to handle himself, with or without it. How would the 3rd Kazekage avoid Hashi's large scale techniques, or even FTW, a move that activates fairly quickly as Madara showed.
 
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