[Spoilers] Hashirama defeated Madara? Unbelievable!
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Itachi Namikaze
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He didn't unlock the rinnegan at any point during that fight. It was way after that. He survived that fight, don't you read the manga?
Rosco Wellington
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In reference to your first point that was discredited in the same chapter that was said. Kabuto admitted he had no idea what Madaras prime even was. Later on in the chapter after claiming again he gave madara his power madara made him look stupid by saying and I quote "don't get the wrong idea.... You didn't create this power". Chapter 560 page 16
lowlyhuman
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I think Hashirama used Secret taijutsu technique: one thousand years of death and defeated Madara by surprise!
The fact sill remains that he didn't beat them, and would have been killed by them if he hadn't sealed them both away especially with the infinite darkness genjutsu in effect. The only thing that allowed him to catch and seal them was the fact that he knew their techniques, had he not done reaper death seal even the edo hokages would have killed him and anyone else will agree.
He never beat them, he resorted to sealing them away. They were not full strength under edo, you honestly think if he could not even beat Orochimaru he could beat Hashi? Who defeated Madara? Just no
orochimaru cant beat hiruzen without his edo. hiruzen was hailed as the strongest amongst the 5 current kage.
hirunzen>raikage
hirunzen>tsusekage
hirunzen>mizukage
hirunzen>kazekage
it looks like onooki is stronger than hiruzen but no
because that part 2 their powers become stronger coz kishi likes DBZ lol
I know this has already been stated a few times already in this thread, but we are yet to see the true events of what actually happened during Hashirama and Madara's fight at the VOTE. It's quite possible that Hashirama has some OP jutsus himself that we are yet to see.
I don't know if this is a legitimate source, but in the Generations video game there is a video of them fighting and no Susano'o or Amaterasu is used. With that being said, it's also possible that he developed these abilities after their encounter. This idea is purely speculation and thought however.
I don't know if this is a legitimate source, but in the Generations video game there is a video of them fighting and no Susano'o or Amaterasu is used. With that being said, it's also possible that he developed these abilities after their encounter. This idea is purely speculation and thought however.
Madara with MS/EMS was considered on Hashirama lvl, with his powers now he is beyond Hashirama.
I'm sure Kishi will show us the battle or a glance, that battle itself holds majority of our questions.
I look at it Madara survived, he got Rinnegan, along with Hashi DNA/including the body itself as we saw Tobi show Kabuto. He had everything (majority) planned from his era till now, and is even suppose to be resurrected. So, how did Hashi win? Its either he beat him, but Madara decided to change something in the feature? Or its either Madara was in that battle for some other benefit?
Ultimatevirus
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I don't see why it's hard to believe that Hashirama got around Susanoo. Heck, Danzo didas well at one point. Granted, that was one level below Madara?s current Susanoo bit still. Heck, Madara said that the current Kage's fight pales in comparison to the fight Hashirama gave so it only makes sense.
toviasrepier
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AnimeIsPerfection
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agreed.
Also, i believe Madara is stronger now than back then because he has rinnagan and hashirama dna and can be revived with edo-tensei as many times as needed.
Also, i believe Madara is stronger now than back then because he has rinnagan and hashirama dna and can be revived with edo-tensei as many times as needed.
abodi mohi
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UnknownBeast
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THANK YOU! I was just thinking isn't it strange that at the end when he called out Susano's perfect form he was using the Rinnegan's power??? (as seen by the change of his eye)
Madara said to have obtained the Rinnegan not long before his death after his last fight with Hashirama, so is it crazy to think that he didn't actually use Susano's perfect form against Hashi???
I respect everyone's opining regarding why Hashi was superior to Madara or how Hashi could counter Susano with his wood tech, deadly pollen, etc...but who knows had Madara used Susano's perfect form againt Hashi then the fight could have ended differently.
Also don't forget that it seems Madara's priority was to obtain Hashi's DNA.
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cocieemonster
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It really makes me wonder.. how the hell did Hashi manage to beat him? Its quite the damn feat seeing as all we've been told about hashirama is that he can throw trees and heal himself without seals. Its defiantly an incredible feat if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
lol dont forget hashi was one the most powerful senju accept wood stlye user he was invulnerable to madaras eyes and that he captured almost all tales by himself and distributed them amongs nations to make peace n balanace power he captured nine tails that itself makes him even more powerful shinobi than madara who has nothing worthy other than sharingan which is over rated aswell
lol dont forget hashi was one the most powerful senju accept wood stlye user he was invulnerable to madaras eyes and that he captured almost all tales by himself and distributed them amongs nations to make peace n balanace power he captured nine tails that itself makes him even more powerful shinobi than madara who has nothing worthy other than sharingan which is over rated aswell
MadaraHashirama
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Hashirama can pull him out of the Susano'o, if he can create a whole forest why wouldn't he be able to pull him out of it by creating Mokuton under him.
My thoughts, they're just fanboys, Itachi was a god when Izanami got introduced, and look what it turned out to be.its funny how we see the perfect susanoo and now everyones put madara on some demi god type level smh
Prejudices can be a deception
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