[Spoilers] Hashirama defeated Madara? Unbelievable!

[Blaze Release]

You have to remember that he has been upgraded beyond his prime. Anybody with hashirama's dna gets an energy boost and thats why all his clones can use susano. If he didnt have the dna i very much doubt he has that much chakra to even spare some on 25 clones let alone susano. Also note that his clones are hashirama's ability

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

He had help from the 9-tails partway into the battle. Manga said it.

Honestly I feel like Madara would have won had he not taken the 9-tails into that fight, as it ended up backfiring on him.

 

[KAGE RYUU]

hashi was just stronger also it said you can pull a susanoo user out of susanoo wich would not be hard for a wood styles user on hasi level also people still seem tho think susanoo is unbreakable but as strong as it is it can be broken clearly hashi was strong enough to do just that not to mention the heal without seals which is stronger then tsunade regen that means hashi was un killable while he had the chakra to pull it off and with senju chakra is not hard to come by

also you gotta know hashi had much more up his sleeve then we have seen

 

[Zlad]

Now we all know that Hashi > Hiruzen, right?

 

[ZeeshanAsNaruto]

Well when he fought hashi. he din't hve the 1st's dna but now he has sooo he is sooooooooo over powered ... m not sayin' tht Madara was weak that tym m jzzz tryin' 2 say that Nowwwww Madara is jzz tooooo Overpowered xd + he is an Edo

 

[hiitz]

Hashirama

 

[Blaze Release]

Now we all know that Hashi > Hiruzen, right?

Kisame > bee
Gai > kisame

Does that mean gai > bee? :sy:

 

[psukkar]

He had help from the 9-tails partway into the battle. Manga said it.

Honestly I feel like Madara would have won had he not taken the 9-tails into that fight, as it ended up backfiring on him.

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madara used the fox to get firepower, so obviously madara knew he needed something huge to deal with hasihrama.


no fox equals hasihrama wining with no problems.

Kisame > bee
Gai > kisame

Does that mean gai > bee? :sy:

this was very unque case, kisame failed because he absorbs the guys chakra to get advantage. Kisame himself hasnt got much firepower like bee and gai.

Its more like samahada > bee as oppose to kisame if u know what i mean.

haishrama and hruizen are shinobi that use ninjutsu for firepower u can compare that as oppose to kisame and Gai.

 

[Zlad]

Kisame > bee
Gai > kisame

Does that mean gai > bee? :sy:

lol!!!! hhaha, good one :noc:

 

[Ryuu..]

Don't know why Hiruzen was mentioned...

Hashirama must have been a BEAST that is all I can say at this point.

 

[xlilyx]

You have to remember that he has been upgraded beyond his prime. Anybody with hashirama's dna gets an energy boost and thats why all his clones can use susano. If he didnt have the dna i very much doubt he has that much chakra to even spare some on 25 clones let alone susano. Also note that his clones are hashirama's ability

This. ^ I don't think he was this OP when he was alive as Kabuto told him something like he had made him stronger than in his golden days. But I can see that he was one hell of a Shinobi when he was alive as well, that I agree on. Hashirama must have been a beast as well. xd

 

[pdaworld]

the uchiha clan relies on their eyes. that actually how no skill what so ever.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

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madara used the fox to get firepower, so obviously madara knew he needed something huge to deal with hasihrama.


no fox equals hasihrama wining with no problems.

Retarded logic as always.

Just because Madara used it doesn't mean he needed it.

He had obviously been fighting and competing with Hashirama on equal footing over the years as their two clans fought all the time and they fought many times.

So if they were equal before he got EMS then that means that Madara was probably just being an arrogant show-off like he has been the entire time we have seen him.

I urge you to think things through fully before you post them. The 9-tails was a detriment to Madara, there is no getting around that.

By the way did you see Hashirama after that fight? He was barely alive and he had help from the 9-tails on the back end of that fight anyway. So Madara survived fighting Hashirama +the 9-tails.

 

[cyco22]

harisama is great and 1st hokage

 

[lol99]

Retarded logic as always.

Just because Madara used it doesn't mean he needed it.

He had obviously been fighting and competing with Hashirama on equal footing over the years as their two clans fought all the time and they fought many times.

So if they were equal before he got EMS then that means that Madara was probably just being an arrogant show-off like he has been the entire time we have seen him.

I urge you to think things through fully before you post them. The 9-tails was a detriment to Madara, there is no getting around that.

By the way did you see Hashirama after that fight? He was barely alive and he had help from the 9-tails on the back end of that fight anyway. So Madara survived fighting Hashirama +the 9-tails.

thats not true, the manga has only shown mokuton suppressing kyuubi chakra, not control them like sharingan and make them attack someone

 

[Champ]

Madara didn't use his Susano'o when he fought hashirama he brung the kyuubi

 

[Blaze Release]

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this was very unque case, kisame failed because he absorbs the guys chakra to get advantage. Kisame himself hasnt got much firepower like bee and gai.

Its more like samahada > bee as oppose to kisame if u know what i mean.

haishrama and hruizen are shinobi that use ninjutsu for firepower u can compare that as oppose to kisame and Gai.

Dafuq?. I dont believe you understand why i said what i did but anyway. Kisame's abilities is what allowed him to fair very well against jinchrucki's and thats why he beat bee and the 4 tailed jin.

Hashirama also had the ability to suppress tailed beast chakra and even control them and have alot under his disposal. Thats why he was able to wrestle the fox away from madara.

Hiruzen doesnt have this ability therefore if you pit him against ems madara + the fox hiruzen isnt winning. But thats because your fighting style and abilities is what usually determines a fight and not just power

lol!!!! hhaha, good one :noc:

Lmao hiruzen fanboys should brace themselves because there is a shit storm coming xd

 

[Ryuu..]

Madara didn't use his Susano'o when he fought hashirama he brung the kyuubi

Err, what do you mean he didn't use his Susanoo?

 

[home]

he only has the stamina to spam those susanoos and make those clones due to hashirama's dna also alot of his physical strength and endurance also comes from hashirama's dna

 

[Champ]

Err, what do you mean he didn't use his Susanoo?

From the few pics they shown we didn't see Madara use Susano'o, Amaterasu or genjutsu when he clearly could have