[Spoilers] Hashirama defeated Madara? Unbelievable!

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Re: Why madara edo will not disappear

Are you a moron or just handicapped? Muu didn't do another edo to bring madara there. He just summoned the coffin. Madara is still connected to kabuto's edo. If muu had killed someone and done the whole ritual that'd be different.
The preparations for an edo and actually summoning the edo are two different thing... and if you gonna insult me at least try to be funny, lame a$$...
 

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Re: Why madara edo will not disappear

I guess we'll find out if Madara fades away in two weeks, but if he stays, it will not be because Muu summoned him. As said numerous times in this thread and the other countless threads that are identical to this one, Muu only used the Transportation Jutsu (Summoning Jutsu) to get Madara to the battlefield. Madara was still originally created by Kabuto, which means that unless Madara is special (which he is), he is supposed to fade away with the other resurrected shinobi.

That being said, I think that Madara can serve a bigger role in developing Sasuke as a character, and thus I don't think he is going anywhere just yet. If you think about it, Madara's body is different from the other Edos in that he is a complete Edo that has been merged with a large amount of Hashirama's DNA. This could make the next chapter very interesting...or perhaps Kishi was just giving us a preview of what Sasuke and Tobi are really capable of.
I hear what you saying, and I know that.... like I said its my theory and will be that untill I read otherwise in the manga.....thanks buuudy
 

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Re: Why madara edo will not disappear

If anything, Madara staying would because he was alive when Edo Tensei was created by Tobirama; which since he was alive, during its creation, may have found a weakness in the jutsu and exploited it. Madara is something of a genius, so it would not surprise me if he found a way negate the “recall effect” of Edo Tensei. If anything he should be able to, being as he is Madara Uchiha.
 

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madara goes poof but susanoo stays?

So we see that perfect susanoo is now "fixated" or "chakra stabilized". This might mean that if madara goes poof the susanoo may remain! Maybe the gedo mazo was created in a similar fashion originally...
 
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Nope the fight is stil unclear to everyone and until I see flashbacks of the fight I believe Madara didnt use Susano'o Amaterasu or tsukuyomi in that fight

actually there IS a madara vs hashirama video in youtube , which looks pretty original , and yes madara didn't use susanoo or any eye technique in it ,only the nine tails and ems , katon, etc but THE VIDEO/ FLASHBACKS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE PLAYSTATION VERSION , not the manga version,,, in the manga madara says his susanoo can be defeated only by hashirama
 

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Re: madara goes poof but susanoo stays?

possibly but I think that it just means the chakra is not constantly burning up but instead contained for attacks xd
 

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the gedo stature powered by 8 bijuus. We know that the 1st could control bijuus and he collected them. Its plausible he used them to fight maadara through the gedo stature.
It would certainly make things more even. Anyways this theory should be tested in the following chapters when tobi fights naruto. We should learn more about the stature
Yeah I think the same here...how about the gedo mazo is the original summon used by the 1st. I am gonna look into this more. Maybe it was past down...what other place would u keep tailed beasts?
 

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Re: Madara isn't leaving.

Sigh I don't want to repost my thread so just go here. But no, muu summoning Madara means nothing.

 

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Re: madara goes poof but susanoo stays?

So we see that perfect susanoo is now "fixated" or "chakra stabilized". This might mean that if madara goes poof the susanoo may remain! Maybe the gedo mazo was created in a similar fashion originally...
what do "fixated mean?:eek:
 

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Re: Madara isn't leaving.

kabuto is not just ending edo tensei, I think he is releasing the souls of the ninja he bound to the ninja world.
just ending an edo summon causes it's coffin to appear and traps the edo in there, but he can be summoned again, deidara is the perfect example of that when they first went after the turtle island and later he was used in the ambush squad.
what's happening now is that they are all glowing and a beam shoots up, even the ones that were sealed on page 13 are glowing. so it has to be different, I'm guessing it's a release of the bond and the original sacrifice (the living vessel) will appear again (but then dead)
I am guessing however that this only aplies to edo's that are currently summoned, ones that he isn't using (like torune that was used to demonstrate the binding ritual)
so madara would also fall under this group, he should also be released from his binds, however I think madara can use his rinnegan to escape from leaving this plane, and sort of bring himself back to full life and the kages will still have their hands full.

or perhaps kabuto is going to use Anko now, since she is still alive and he hinted to needing a living sacrifice later on. one possibility might be that he still has some madara dna left and is going to bind him onto Anko. madara then realizing that kabuto is only a weakness in his presence in this world takes kabuto out.
 

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Re: madara goes poof but susanoo stays?

Well, I'd say no, the Susano'o needs its user. But nice interpretation, by the way.

Just wondering, what would Susano'o do if he is "free"? I can not imagine anything, nothing comes in my mind. Although, it will be funny.
 
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I can't believe this thread is still going and what some people are saying based SOLELY on what they SEE. Read the chapter over and don't just SEE or LOOK at the pictures. Madara says it one more time in case that wasn't enough for the people who still don't believe it.



Whether it was Mokutun/Wood Style or whatever it was, Madara knew he would get beat and obviously went in to fighting Hashi with some type of plan to get his DNA to put this whole battle/plan into fruition. I mean Kishi has written it THROUGH THE CHARACTER AKA MADARA IS SAYING IT. If you don't believe the Writer/creator maybe at least believe the character saying it??? ;p

P.S. - I find it way more amazing that the Raikage got caught in a genjutsu in the last chapter. That is way more note-worthy because everyone on this board pretty much believes he is the strongest/best overall Kage.
 
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