Hashirama And Madara Comparison

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As i already said, and you didnt counter but repeated same thing again, even if madz whould engage hashirama alone senjus would come and in the end madara was shown to be alone vs senju. Whole day of battle i dont think senjus would conviniently came at last 5 sec.

You say oh but there were uchiha, well show them, or show their corpses or body parts. You completely neglect that madara wasnt followed nor respected and the clan was defecting for the very same reasons.

Im not gonna drag this any further, i've countered all you got while you blindly cling to specific scans of madara ***** slapping each and every one senju while cant give me a single panel of even uchiha torn up robe at that battle.

Cease fire agreement is accepted via another letter not on battlefield, no response means war as it always has. Nobody signs treaties at battlefield U_U

At this point, I wont bother with you. Panels or gtfo.
 

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ashura was always more talented than indra its just that indra unlocked his potential first and making it seem the opposite.

Umm. How was asura's ALWAYS better, if he wasn't at first? And according to the flashbacks, indra seemed more stronger until their prime.
 

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Are people really using what happened in the anime as actual feats?
Wow. Volk and king Hashirama. You guys steeped so low.
 

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Madara is a more aggressive, deadly fighter. If your were fighting him, in the middle of you trying to say a corny oneliner, he would kick you through a few walls and proceed to blitz your dead body.

Hashirama is a more soft fighter who can kill if he needs to, but does not possess a killing moveset. Fighting him, he'd probably tire you out or restrict you down to stab you.

This isn't a VS thread or a __>___ thing just an analysis

Hashirama is a stationary fighter. He has lackluster taijutsu feats but a haxxed KKG. He uses fluid mokuton to move himself through the terrain that he creates. It doesn't matter which location he fights, it's eventually a forest.

Madara uses a much more energetic style of fighting, and fights for fun. He plows through enemies in a game like manner, doesn't waste any movement when it comes to fighting, and Ises brute force rather than analytic skill. He is well versed but not as versatile as Hashirama

You would ask Hashirama to help you take over a village, but Madara would be more useful for full scale warfare.

  • Hashirama has more chakra than Madara
  • Madara is more cunning than hashirama
  • Madara is more destructive than Hashirama
  • Hashirama utilizes more power than Madara
  • By feats Madara has displayed more power and his in life, achieved greater power than Hashirama who still used his Friends to fight the winning battle
  • They were unlike Ashura and Indra because Hashirama was more talented than Madara
Hashirama does not have lackluster taijutsu skills he must be extremely great to fight on par with madara who has the sharingan. Hashirama can not be looked at as a soft fighter as he had to kill his entire life living in the warring states era. Madara did not reach greater power than hashirama until he became a juubijin. Hashirama may be kind hearted but he will kill his enemies he just wished to stop the fighting. He is like ashura becausehe attracts comrades and people trust him. Madara tried to get power on his own.
 

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o-o hopefully you know Hashirama only uses Mokuton when its necessary... Otherwise he goes taijutsu and kenjutsu.

Anddd Hashirama was basically more cunning than Madara, had more destructive techniques.


ehh, unlike Indra and Ashura, Madara and Hashirama were never really "equals".



the anime > you

What you say is not supported in the manga, but is countered in the anime.

Anime is not canon so it holds no water.

Show scans of Hashirama using taijutsu against non fodders.

Then show him using kenjutsu on par with a samurai fodder
 

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Hashirama does not have lackluster taijutsu skills he must be extremely great to fight on par with madara who has the sharingan. Hashirama can not be looked at as a soft fighter as he had to kill his entire life living in the warring states era. Madara did not reach greater power than hashirama until he became a juubijin. Hashirama may be kind hearted but he will kill his enemies he just wished to stop the fighting. He is like ashura becausehe attracts comrades and people trust him. Madara tried to get power on his own.

Rinnegan and Blind Madara > Hashirama
 

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Anime is not canon so it holds no water.

Show scans of Hashirama using taijutsu against non fodders.

Then show him using kenjutsu on par with a samurai fodder
False, understand the connection between anime and manga, instead of riding "anime = non-cannon". Anime is non-cannon when we solely refer to the manga. However, when plot comes into play, and things that are not shown on screen.. but are added as "fillers", those very well part of "canon".

The manga did not focus on Madara's back.. it focused on simply Madara.. The anime showed the surrounding around him.. where we saw uchiha.
 

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False, understand the connection between anime and manga, instead of riding "anime = non-cannon". Anime is non-cannon when we solely refer to the manga. However, when plot comes into play, and things that are not shown on screen.. but are added as "fillers", those very well part of "canon".

The manga did not focus on Madara's back.. it focused on simply Madara.. The anime showed the surrounding around him.. where we saw uchiha.

No. Anime isn't canon. The anime is made based on the storyline. It isn't the storyline
 

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No. Anime isn't canon. The anime is made based on the storyline. It isn't the storyline

Again Anime is copyrighted by Kishimoto. It is under Kishimoto's encharge.. he can interfere when he pleases to. If he doesn't like something he can MAKE them change it. (Naruto is a big enough name .. no studio can threaten Kishimoto).

Ok yea i agree the movies and some fillers are not part of the manga.. i agree.. but can you show me where the manga counters them? Can you show me where the manga shows us no uchiha standing behind Madara? no

However, the anime showed us there were uchiha standing behind Madara.. because unlike the manga, anime focused its camera on the battlefield as a whole.. where as Kishimoto's panel are solely zoomed in on Madara.

Again, if you ahve manga to contradict the anime.. you have a point.. as long as there is nothing in the manga to contradict the anime.. then you don't really have a point on this topic. Unless Kishimoto decides to show us there weren't any Uchiha with Madara.. but hes not going to.. cause they already showed in the anime there were.
 

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Rinnegan and Blind Madara > Hashirama

Please don't make any more scenes buddy.
When u say Rinnegan Madara or Blind Madara > Hashirama, I hope you realise that means something like this : Madara + Hashirama > Hashirama.
Madara would have been dead if not for mercy from Hashirama.
U cannot compare'' wood craving '' Madara with Hashirama.
Please stop with these false allegations and accept once and for all that in a real one v one with kkg, Hashirama sh**stomps Madara.
Madara had to bite the wood, swallow it then he got rinnegan long after that. He got revived and had to steal SM as well, because you know, go big or go home!

Do not f**king trash the real KING!

PEACE
 

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the hate man, smh . That's your opinion anyway , some responses are pathetic as **** but I wont waste time to reply to these wankers anyway.
 

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Again Anime is copyrighted by Kishimoto. It is under Kishimoto's encharge.. he can interfere when he pleases to. If he doesn't like something he can MAKE them change it. (Naruto is a big enough name .. no studio can threaten Kishimoto).

Ok yea i agree the movies and some fillers are not part of the manga.. i agree.. but can you show me where the manga counters them? Can you show me where the manga shows us no uchiha standing behind Madara? no

However, the anime showed us there were uchiha standing behind Madara.. because unlike the manga, anime focused its camera on the battlefield as a whole.. where as Kishimoto's panel are solely zoomed in on Madara.

Again, if you ahve manga to contradict the anime.. you have a point.. as long as there is nothing in the manga to contradict the anime.. then you don't really have a point on this topic. Unless Kishimoto decides to show us there weren't any Uchiha with Madara.. but hes not going to.. cause they already showed in the anime there were.

Kishi gave shisui Susanoo on a game, it isn't canon.

Anime is just for the entertainment. Extra stuff happens, which can easily be made up characters never seen before.
 

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Kishi gave shisui Susanoo on a game, it isn't canon.

Anime is just for the entertainment. Extra stuff happens, which can easily be made up characters never seen before.
"anime is just for the entertainment".. so is manga.. o_O no one really gives a crap about Dragonball manga.. only care about the anime.. so you tell me which one matters more?

Manga fade away over time.. people will in the end be watching Naruto the anime.... are you then gonna ***** and moan about Madara being by himself there? lol..
 

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Please don't make any more scenes buddy.
When u say Rinnegan Madara or Blind Madara > Hashirama, I hope you realise that means something like this : Madara + Hashirama > Hashirama.
Madara would have been dead if not for mercy from Hashirama.
U cannot compare'' wood craving '' Madara with Hashirama.
Please stop with these false allegations and accept once and for all that in a real one v one with kkg, Hashirama sh**stomps Madara.
Madara had to bite the wood, swallow it then he got rinnegan long after that. He got revived and had to steal SM as well, because you know, go big or go home!

Do not f**king trash the real KING!

PEACE

He still negs Hashirama
 

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"anime is just for the entertainment".. so is manga.. o_O no one really gives a crap about Dragonball manga.. only care about the anime.. so you tell me which one matters more?

Manga fade away over time.. people will in the end be watching Naruto the anime.... are you then gonna ***** and moan about Madara being by himself there? lol..

No its just that kishi doesn't do everything in the anime like, dialogue, cut scenes, etc.
In the manga, however, he does.
Make a thread, and ask if using anime feat qualifies on the base.
 

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You do know that prime means the highest height of skill and power you posessed at a point in your existence right? Madaras "prime" wasnt reached at the time he fought hashirama at VOTE.
 

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You do know that prime means the highest height of skill and power you posessed at a point in your existence right? Madaras "prime" wasnt reached at the time he fought hashirama at VOTE.



Prime actually means the highest level of skill and power, but also the height of ones body. It is clear that VOTE Madara is his prime of body. Old Madara didn't really have that much power either, but a lot of skill and knowledge
 

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Prime actually means the highest level of skill and power, but also the height of ones body. It is clear that VOTE Madara is his prime of body. Old Madara didn't really have that much power either, but a lot of skill and knowledge

Truly his prime would either be during his rebirth or his Juubi absorption. Unless you're counting his first life only
 
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