Hashi vs madara

[slimreaper]

madara could only stalemate with the shinsusenju because of the tbb barrage by the kyuubi which destroyed a large portion of buddha's hands

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without the firepower of kyuubi perfect susanoo is helpless

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with his 1000 hands hashirama easily blocks perfect susanoo swords and then punches madara into oblivion

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the fight goes on long after kurama leaves the battlefield and its pretty even.

as far as catching a sword

if swung like this he wouldn't have caught the first one. and the curved blade in the last pic leads me to believe that isn't PS

 

[Minator93]

considering the kyuubi became useless here

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the fight raged on without it and madara was still roughly equal to hashi

Yeah summoning and using Shinsusenju costs no chakra at all

 

[KingHashirama]

Wut? Speak english. Lol

Anyways, mokuton bunshins are fodder to madara, if his sharingan is active then those things get solod easily (while madara is sitting down, if fact).

Anyways as I said, OOC madara would end hashi as soon as the match starts. But IC madara's fighting style leaves much to be desired.

Though someone with fine english skills could've understood what I just said...... lmao. So I think you need to start understanding english, instead of telling others.

Reread my scenario, what is stopping Hashirama's wood clone from coming from the back to stab Madara when he was on Mokuton, while fighting the real Hashirama? nothing, except plot.

Hence why you scenario to fanboy over Madara's strength and lower Hashirama's is a fail.

the only reason the clone worked at all is because he didn't have his sharingan active

Oh really? Is that why? Or is it the fact he was too weak. Your comparing a guy who was considered a fairy tale like the Rikudou because of his power to someone who needed that mans power to actually get on his level.

On top of that he still needs his power to become the jinchuriki lmao.

 

[Draphsin]

Though someone with fine english skills could've understood what I just said...... lmao. So I think you need to start understanding english, instead of telling others.

Reread my scenario, what is stopping Hashirama's wood clone from coming from the back to stab Madara when he was on Mokuton, while fighting the real Hashirama? nothing, except plot.

Hence why you scenario to fanboy over Madara's strength and lower Hashirama's is a fail.

I answered your question, you fail because your grammar & wording is atrocious, If I was bad at speaking/reading english then I would have no Idea what you said. However I did, therefore you need to so some english fixing.

I did, sharingan is stopping it, uhh can see movements before they happen? Madara sees hashi perform mokuton clone seals before he actually does it, which forces madara back on kurama.

Lmfao this is so sad, I aint fanboying anybody, I dont even like madara. Its fact that madara's bijuudama blades rip through shinsuusenji, its also fact that shinsuusenju is a short range jutsu. Therefore if you apply logic, then you would see that madara had the advantage yet failed to utilize it. Your fanboy wank is blinding you from the truth & its actually pretty pathetic.

 

[thatgirl]

the fight goes on long after kurama leaves the battlefield and its pretty even.

as far as catching a sword

if swung like this he wouldn't have caught the first one. and the curved blade in the last pic leads me to believe that isn't PS

kyuubi was the reason that madara lasted that long

the curved blade is as big as PS blade and difference is not really there apart from the shape of the blade, btw it was just an example, hashirama has 1000 hands and madara has two swords
its pretty straightforward

madara knew that swords are useless by themselves when he got blocked and hashirama clearly said he can see through his swordsmanship

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however he did push hashirama to his limits in that particular fight

 

[LegendaryAce]

well EMS Madara was only fighting to obtain his DNA, so if he wanted to kill him, he would have.

Edo Madara>Hashirama/Edo Hashirama.

Edo Madara at most is = Edo hashirama
and i dont see why thats an excuse he can take his dna regardless whether hashirama was alive or not

 

[Mellanoma]

Kurama was used to close the Stamina/Chakra gap between Madara and Hashirama.. in terms of destructive power they are = but in terms of stamina and chakra. Hashirama is way above MAdara which is why Madara used Kurama. Kurama forced hashirama to use more chakra and stamina and thus brought him down to Madara level in terms of chakra and stamina.

In the end though... Madara was beaten by wood replacement

 

[iRefleX]

but for the majority of the fight kurama wasn't present

and what other than the buddah tanks this?

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EMS madara is only slightly below Hashirama and it shows

If hashi was way above Madara then he wouldn't have been forced to use a wood clone trick to beat madara he would have beaten him straight up

Kishi messed up that fight badly...Remember Madara said he is the only one that can see through the wood clone cause of his sharingan. Yet Madara never saw through that clone and the sharingan de-activated after Hashirama "supposedly" died...Kishi threw in a major plot-hole there.

Also remember Madara alone fought the Senju clan while Hashirama & Tobirama were there. So he deffo is not very weak compared to Hashirama. It's close either way...

EMS madara =< Hashirama...

 

[Naijakid]

well EMS Madara was only fighting to obtain his DNA, so if he wanted to kill him, he would have.

Edo Madara>Hashirama/Edo Hashirama.

This shows how more of a fodder is EMS madara: using the kyuubi to get a drop of blood???XDXDXD

 

[Zato]

It depends on how much chakara Madara was using to control the 9 tails. He has to have some insane chakara control if he was able to control the 9 tails and maintain perfect Susanoo and combine the two. The reason why Obito was able to control all those tailed beast was because of the Gedo Mazou. Hashirama has sage mode though and we know what sage mode grants you. Basically everything is increased when you go into that mode. The 9 tails was technically Madara's summon because he somehow bind the 9 tails as a summon. To be honest the 9 tails was apart of Madara's abilities because his EMS granted him the ability to control tailed beast. That and the fact he could summon the 9 tails when ever he wanted to.

 

[LitzSabr]

Madara=Kurama<Hashirama.
Uchiha fans should Deal with it.

 

[KidGamer65]

considering the kyuubi became useless here

the fight raged on without it and madara was still roughly equal to hashi

This proves that EMS Madara can fight Hashirama in CQC, it doesn't prove that he is equal to him without Kurama. Its as clear as day to anyone who has a brain that if Hashirama beat EMS Madara w/Kurama, then he'd beat EMS Madara w/o Kurama at a lower difficulty, hence them not being equal.

Hashirama>EMS Madara w/Kurama>EMS Madara w/o Kurama.

Madara isn't equal to Hashirama at all, even the former regards Hashirama as the ultimate shinobi and that Hashirama is the only one who can stop him. They aren't equal. Hashirama is superior.

 

[slimreaper]

This proves that EMS Madara can fight Hashirama in CQC, it doesn't prove that he is equal to him without Kurama. Its as clear as day to anyone who has a brain that if Hashirama beat EMS Madara w/Kurama, then he'd beat EMS Madara w/o Kurama at a lower difficulty, hence them not being equal.

Hashirama>EMS Madara w/Kurama>EMS Madara w/o Kurama.

Madara isn't equal to Hashirama at all, even the former regards Hashirama as the ultimate shinobi and that Hashirama is the only one who can stop him. They aren't equal. Hashirama is superior.

they are nearly equal. proof is in the manga

 

[KidGamer65]

they are nearly equal. proof is in the manga

This is why I can't take Uchiha dicksuckers seriously.

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EMS Madara admitted inferiority to Hashirama, Hashirama beat Madara in the manga twice now, Mokujin and Mokuryu was equalling PS, what more do you need for you to realize that Hashirama is just superior to EMS Madara?