Has western feminism become redundant at this point?

[System001]

Another one that kills me is that whole 'Womyn suffer the most from war' bullshit. Yep, definitely, it's not like the guys that fought and died lost the right to breathe and live or anything!
It's also not like the guys who make it back have to deal with PTSD, or struggle to find a job, or even worse - that they come back with parts missing or anything.
It's also not like war Veterans sometimes come home to adulterous wives who file for divorce straight away (Were obviously banking on their husbands dying at war so that they could cash in on dat life insurance, Cha-Ching!) and then have the gall to demand for absurd amounts of money, and actually have it awarded to them by the very same government that these guys fought in service of. Yep, not like any of that shit happens!

I'm trying to think of some other feminists myths that infer a righteous cause and need for progress or development, but I'm genuinely struggling to...
What the **** do feminists want anyway?
Seems to me that modern feminism is just about perpetually playing the victim card to get whatever the hell it is you want regardless of the expense, and is basically about women continuously pushing for more and more entitlement with reduced responsibility.

 

[Yubel]

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[Sakura Michiko]

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There I linked to three, obviously I'm right now. /s

You're not getting, like most people that buy into the pay gap myth that it is a gross comparison of what women make to what men make lumping everyone together. It's not putting a man that works the same job for the same amount of hours against a woman that does the same. It doesn't factor in time off, maternity leave, or various other reasons why a woman may end up making less in a year example being working less hours. The argument itself is used on the basis that "well they're women so obviously they're just paid less."





This is explained in all of the articles I linked, but it's never taken as legitimate in these sort of discussions because "well obviously women are just paid less."

Rest of it, I'm not even going to touch mostly because **** shaming is just people being *******s to each other. This incorporates men and women. People are just *******s.

I'm not going to argue about the pay gap shit because it's nonsense.
That's why I said it shouldn't be an absolute law, it should be bypassed in rape cases but that will create a whole new set of problems on its own. False rape cases are already rampant, with this law every woman who wants an abortion will claim she got raped and because women words are taken as the gospel of truth with no evidence of no consent, men will be utterly screwed. There is no way to determine whether giving childbirth is actually dangerous to a woman or her kid right? If there is by all means, go ahead.
You probably heard this before but a key that can open many locks is a great key but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a useless lock. Women aren't supposed to run around screwing everything in sight because of their biological limit, their fertility reaches its peak in their early 20's, that's when they're hottest to men, also why playboy girls are all in that age range. Women's SMV drops when she's been with several dudes. Their mating strategy success is determined by finding the best man for her. A woman who screws around is by definition a failure because she can't spot a good mate. Not only that but when men screw around they probably had to work at their confidence and alot of other things. For a woman it's a passive achievement, that's why you can't compare the two.

A study can lie too, that's why you "agreed to disagree".
How about using your own critical thinking skills?

Critically thinking what you said sounds ridiculous. I can't come to a full conclusion from your opinion. Even though the studies can lie they might be more credible that what you said. I can't even find what you were trying to tell me when I searched it.

That's when you're supposed to use common sense to figure out what is actually legitimate and not just someone trying to pander to a specific subgroup. All of your sources were a comparison of everything to everything. You were using this wrong to confirm that women are paid less however it doesn't work that way as you're comparing gross income of every full-time working woman to every full-time working man. You don't take into consideration that men are more likely to work doing dangerous work that pays slightly more. Or that maternity leave is a thing. Not every woman is going to have a child, but we can both agree that if you take every full-time working woman a fair amount will end up having children in their lifetime and in doing so they'll have to take time off from whatever their job is. These factors along with others mentioned in all the sources I've linked when taken into consideration make the pay gap, which again is a gap in pay when you compare everything to everything not one women working the same job as a man for the same hours disappears.

This means the argument can't be used in the way you were using it because if you apply common sense and problem solving skills to it it vanishes.



Your other points are easy as well. Yes a women should be able to do what she wants with her body. I honestly don't care about that because I'm not having babies but it's a right. However that's a different discussion pro-choice vs pro-life and I don't see feminism fixing it. Unless you have a cure for it that's created by feminism if so I wouldn't mind hearing it. **** shaming and victim shaming again boil down to people being ignorant or intolerant *******s. You can't stop people from being *******s it's pretty much just a fact of life. People suck. Then again I'm a cynic.

Side note why does only victim shaming and **** shaming matter? What about the argument that radical feminist always use that all men are pigs or penis shaming etc etc. I mean if we're going for true equality then we got to figure out an answer for everyone not just women.

Those aren't feminist. Feminist want equality for men and women but those "radical feminist" are a joke. They feel superior to men...they disgust me.