Haku vs sasuke

[Vexorian]

Amaterasu (and/or Blaze Release) would burn through Haku's water. Amaterasu beats anything.

Lets give Sasuke the MS with the ribcage Susano'o for starters....as well as Blaze Release and Blaze Release Manipulation....

lolz fail by u... ice mirrors can't stop ametrasu... it burns all.... sasukes speed by far exerted hakus...
and sasukes taijutsu is better than rocklees....

I won't say Sasuke's Taijutsu is better than Rock Lee's.....

With this battle in mind....Are we sure that Amaterasu beats the mirrors? Amaterasu DID in fact fizzle out when it started raining at the Uchiha Hidehout. I don't believe that Haku could beat Sasuke at this point.....Haku wouldn't be able to outlast him.....I don't think. It would be interesting, to be sure. Haku was definitely on the next level in terms of battlefield genius and intelligence, quite similar to Itachi really. I'd actually put Haku above Itachi in those terms with a 6/5.

 

[DiatonSabaoth]

And you can't say Haku would win because of his Ice. Do you really think that Haku could stand a chance against Sasuke now? He has two kekkei genkais, EMS, and is very ruthless. Haku would be destroyed in minutes.

Haku is vary good at survival and you sasuke fanboys need to realize sasuke is vary naive almost any ninja can talk ninjustu to get him to do something. and another thing is Haku can do ninjustu with 1 hand people forget Haku is a close range and fare range ninja and he is vary smart. hes just emo like sasuke is

 

[uffe0365]

Lets give Sasuke the MS with the ribcage Susano'o for starters....as well as Blaze Release and Blaze Release Manipulation....



I won't say Sasuke's Taijutsu is better than Rock Lee's.....

With this battle in mind....Are we sure that Amaterasu beats the mirrors? Amaterasu DID in fact fizzle out when it started raining at the Uchiha Hidehout. I don't believe that Haku could beat Sasuke at this point.....Haku wouldn't be able to outlast him.....I don't think. It would be interesting, to be sure. Haku was definitely on the next level in terms of battlefield genius and intelligence, quite similar to Itachi really. I'd actually put Haku above Itachi in those terms with a 6/5.

i agree with ya to some extend but the only reason why they disapeard the black flames that is... is because itachi died

 

[DiatonSabaoth]

i agree with ya to some extend but the only reason why they disapeard the black flames that is... is because itachi died

your wrong even if the user dies the flames will go on..if the user was in controller of the flames sasuke would have found a easier way to get the flames off of karin rather then use ms

 

[choft]

Now if Haku had lived and done more training. he would own sasuke. here is why
Haku has Watter and Wind. Sasuke has Fire and Lightning Wind>lightning Watter>fire

Sasuke's training when he faced with Haku was not with Kakashi or Orochimaru. When he trained with Orochimaru, his skills increased tremendously. I think Sasuke's training would still be superior to Haku's.

another reason is that Haku speed is better then sasuke and im sure their is more secreats with Hakus bloodline

I don't think that Haku will always surpass Sasuke with speed, he had Zabuza to train him at the time and Sasuke didn't really have anyone. As I said above, under Kakashi's and especially Orochimaru's tutelage, Sasuke's speed increased tremendously. Honestly, I think Sasuke would still be faster.

And as for bloodline secrets, are you seriously saying that Haku's bloodline has more secrets than the Uchiha's, whose bloodline goes all the way back to the Sage of Six Paths?

Are you seriously suggesting that Ice Mirror > Rinnegan or EMS?

also he can form seals with 1 hand think of how he can do his justus if he master that even more he would do 2 justus at once.

Whatever jutsus he could master, I doubt it will be superior to techniques such as Susanoo, Amaterasu etc. Kakashi has 1000 jutsus, but I'm willing to bet that most of those techniques are simply D or C type jutsus. Nothing special.

ice mirrors > black flames

I don't know why the ice would stop amaterasu, as Amaterasu will continue burning until it extinguishes its target. The ice will get melted eventually.

Also, I can't see the mirrors stopping a Susanoo arrow smashing through the mirrors.

Speed > genjustu

Sasuke's genjutsu is through sight, which travels at the speed of light. I also don't think that Haku is fast enough to dodge Sasuke's genjutsu. Sasuke managed to use genjutsu on Killer Bee, so I can't see why he can't hit Haku with it.
Haku is not faster than the speed of light so there is no way Haku can dodge it.

Haku tiajustu > then sasukes

Nope, for the reasons I stated above in regards to training.

Haku elementals justu biger and faster> then sasukes

Ok, so his elemental jutsus might be better than Sasuke's, but as long as Sasuke has EMS, Haku's jutsus are almost useless.

Sanasoo would not get near Haku and Haku would strengthen his ice mirrors buy the time he would turn 16

Susanoo arrows are very fast. Kakashi himself said that he couldn't dodge one, which is why he used Kamui. And Susanoo arrows are very strong too, even with the strenthened ice, I simply see them breaking.

plus is clan was feared for a reason just like the uzimaki clan was..im sure their are more to his bloodline then what we had seen

Maybe there is, but I seriously doubt that Haku's bloodine is as special as the Uchiha's as stated above too.


Tbh, I can't see Haku winning at all. Sasuke wins.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Haku is vary good at survival and you sasuke fanboys need to realize sasuke is vary naive almost any ninja can talk ninjustu to get him to do something. and another thing is Haku can do ninjustu with 1 hand people forget Haku is a close range and fare range ninja and he is vary smart. hes just emo like sasuke is

:flaw: I am the FARTHEST thing from a Sasuke fanboy!! I HATE Sasuke!! But I'm not stupid like you are to assume that Haku can beat someone who has EMS, developed Blaze Release, and has a pretty strong Susanoo. You think Haku's ice mirrors can stand a chance against Sasuke's Susanoo's arrows? At the time Sasuke fought Haku, he had a two-tomoe Sharingan. He now has EMS. Understand this!

 

[DiatonSabaoth]

Sasuke's training when he faced with Haku was not with Kakashi or Orochimaru. When he trained with Orochimaru, his skills increased tremendously. I think Sasuke's training would still be superior to Haku's.



I don't think that Haku will always surpass Sasuke with speed, he had Zabuza to train him at the time and Sasuke didn't really have anyone. As I said above, under Kakashi's and especially Orochimaru's tutelage, Sasuke's speed increased tremendously. Honestly, I think Sasuke would still be faster.

And as for bloodline secrets, are you seriously saying that Haku's bloodline has more secrets than the Uchiha's, whose bloodline goes all the way back to the Sage of Six Paths?

Are you seriously suggesting that Ice Mirror > Rinnegan or EMS?



Whatever jutsus he could master, I doubt it will be superior to techniques such as Susanoo, Amaterasu etc. Kakashi has 1000 jutsus, but I'm willing to bet that most of those techniques are simply D or C type jutsus. Nothing special.



I don't know why the ice would stop amaterasu, as Amaterasu will continue burning until it extinguishes its target. The ice will get melted eventually.

Also, I can't see the mirrors stopping a Susanoo arrow smashing through the mirrors.



Sasuke's genjutsu is through sight, which travels at the speed of light. I also don't think that Haku is fast enough to dodge Sasuke's genjutsu. Sasuke managed to use genjutsu on Killer Bee, so I can't see why he can't hit Haku with it.
Haku is not faster than the speed of light so there is no way Haku can dodge it.



Nope, for the reasons I stated above in regards to training.



Ok, so his elemental jutsus might be better than Sasuke's, but as long as Sasuke has EMS, Haku's jutsus are almost useless.



Susanoo arrows are very fast. Kakashi himself said that he couldn't dodge one, which is why he used Kamui. And Susanoo arrows are very strong too, even with the strenthened ice, I simply see them breaking.



Maybe there is, but I seriously doubt that Haku's bloodine is as special as the Uchiha's as stated above too.


Tbh, I can't see Haku winning at all. Sasuke wins.

sasuke had training if haku got training from someone as strong as orochimaru then he would be way better..and you dont realize if Haku lived he would be way better hell he even created a sheld in the war that stoped a exsplotion. Haku would own sasuke im not even that big of a fan of haku but the fact is he would win

 

[DiatonSabaoth]

:flaw: I am the FARTHEST thing from a Sasuke fanboy!! I HATE Sasuke!! But I'm not stupid like you are to assume that Haku can beat someone who has EMS, developed Blaze Release, and has a pretty strong Susanoo. You think Haku's ice mirrors can stand a chance against Sasuke's Susanoo's arrows? At the time Sasuke fought Haku, he had a two-tomoe Sharingan. He now has EMS. Understand this!

any MS/EMS justu hurts the user and Haku hits where i hurts.played with sasuke and naruto cause he dint want to kill them

 

[-Vegeta-]

No just no. Haku could train all he wants, but he'd never beat current Sasuke.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

any MS/EMS justu hurts the user and Haku hits where i hurts.played with sasuke and naruto cause he dint want to kill them

Okay, that is a lot of bullshit! Haku is not the type to play with someone. If Zabuza told him to do something, he would get the job done efficiently and quickly. Tell me, just tell me how Haku could get through Sasuke's Susanoo and escape arrows so fast that Kakashi had to use Kamui?

 

[choft]

sasuke had training if haku got training from someone as strong as orochimaru then he would be way better..and you dont realize if Haku lived he would be way better hell he even created a sheld in the war that stoped a exsplotion. Haku would own sasuke im not even that big of a fan of haku but the fact is he would win

Like who, and why would that make him better?

When Sasuke and Haku fought, Haku had Zabuza already. Sasuke didn't have anyone really, he had not started proper training with Kakashi yet.

And you didn't explain anything about dodging genjutsu, stopping the Amaterasu, stopping the Susanoo Arrow. In fact, I can't even see how Haku could get through Sasuke's susanoo. Explain please how he would get through Sasuke's Susanoo. As long as Sasuke has EMS, Ice Mirror is lose. ;/

No way Haku wins.

 

[StrifeMaccy]

Wind>Lightning
Fire<Wind
Water>Fire
Lightning is at least equal to water.
Susano could probably beat the mirrors to a pulp, Sasuke would win. His skill with fire and lightnining is excellent and his EMS just makes him even more dangerous

 

[DiatonSabaoth]

Okay, that is a lot of bullshit! Haku is not the type to play with someone. If Zabuza told him to do something, he would get the job done efficiently and quickly. Tell me, just tell me how Haku could get through Sasuke's Susanoo and escape arrows so fast that Kakashi had to use Kamui?

Kakashi is not a good sharingan user cause his body can not handle it. and how he would for 1 he can make a sheld for the arrow and for sanasso he would just hit it where it is weakest and no zabuza even said so himself..hes talented but hes to nice

 

[choft]

Kakashi is not a good sharingan user cause his body can not handle it. and how he would for 1 he can make a sheld for the arrow and for sanasso he would just hit it where it is weakest and no zabuza even said so himself..hes talented but hes to nice

Where is Susanoo's weak point, and what would Haku hit it with? Also, I just can't see Haku's shield surviving Susanoo's arrows.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Kakashi is not a good sharingan user cause his body can not handle it. and how he would for 1 he can make a sheld for the arrow and for sanasso he would just hit it where it is weakest and no zabuza even said so himself..hes talented but hes to nice

He would hit it where it is weakest. Just how strong do you think Haku is? God, and I thought Sasuke fanboys were bad. Susanoo is described as being an ultimate defense. There is no weak point. And what shield made of ice can block an arrow from Susanoo? And Kakashi is a damn good Sharingan user. Most Uchihas don't even unlock MS and he did. He is able to use Kamui several times per day. Sure, his body has a rough time using it, but that shouldn't affect his base speed. Stop being stupid and stfu

 

[Owarij]

haku is not faster than shippuden sasuke

His mirrors would be effortlessly be destroyed by susanno... since 1 tail naruto was able to destroy them

 

[Exaar]

No doubt if Haku had stayed Alive and Trained he would be Around Gaara's Strength, Stronger ice mirrors maybe and new Jutsu's.

Be all round a Strong Kage level Ninja, But Beating Current sasuke is a bit far.

 

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Gaara COVERED it, he didn't put it out. What is Haku gonna do, cover it in ice?

probably oh and for all you saying amaterasu burn all it was burning karin for 5 minutes and all it did was burn her slightly

 

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oh and about who would be strongest thats a dumb question cause we have no way of knowing