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[Theory] Haki is Achieved through taking away a base desire

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Everyone of the m3 have simple base desires. Not complex ones
All three were taken away when they were training with their respective teachers

Luffy couldn't eat meat because he couldn't defeat the animals

Zoro was forbiden from drinking until he mastered haki

Sanji was never allowed to see women until got off the island

Ussop unlocked haki when his desire to be on the sea with luffy was almost taken away by sugar. He wants to be a brave warrior of the sea and he couldnt remember that if he forgot luffy.

and further more

Observation haki is cause from when your desire is taken from your mind and you no longer can see that the way you did. (Sanji only saw a nightmare version of women, and now its his strong suit. Ussop only unlocked Observation from sugar. Coby's view of the marines was broken and his only desire was to see himself be a strong marines)

Armarment haki is from your desire being physically with held from you (Luffy shows us constant CoA and he could have meat but wasnt able to take it. The same with Zoro and drinking)

CoC is from your connection to others being broken. And only people with strong connections to this world have it anyways.


Just a throw away on haki more ananlysis in deeper to come if you like it if you hate it you can kill me
 
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This seems nothing more than a euphemism of what Haki exactly is: willpower, and it's not even an entirely correct one.

Willpower inherently means that you are determined to do or withstand something. If you have no will, you're practically lifeless and the stronger you get, the stronger your willpower will become and vice-versa. They have a symbiotic relationship. You just reformulated that to being a 'desire', which isn't really an appropriate way of putting things IMO. Everyone is born with Haki and Luffy already used Haki before the time skip. The more obstacles and challenges one faces and overcomes, the stronger your Haki will become. Logically the more dangerous such a challenge is, the more progress you will make and characters like Luffy and Zoro were pretty much placed in do or die situations. On the other hand if you live a comfortable life, your Haki will most likely not evolve much.

The word 'desire' has way too much of a selfish connotation and on top of that there are no shortage of characters that have strong desires, but weak or mediocre Haki. Essentially you're really not saying anything new and just reformulated everything that was already explained in the series, only you did in an inaccurate and inappropriate way.

And that by taking away that desire you will unlock/strengthen your Haki, doesn't really make any sense. If anything it's the exact opposite as neither Luffy, Sanji nor Zoro gave up on their desires. If Luffy wanted meat, he would have to get it himself or he would starve. If Zoro wanted his sake, he would have to become stronger or Mihawk wouldn't allow it. The latter one is pretty much a variation of "eat your vegetables or no dessert" and Sanji wanted to have the culinary secrets of the Okama Kingdom, but it happens so that there are no women there. He didn't abandon his desire for women, it was merely temporary less important than his desire to become stronger.

You could describe that Haki is the means to satisfy your desires as the stronger your Haki becomes, the higher the chance is you will see your desires fulfilled. But as I said that has quite the selfish connotation and taking those desires away really doesn't make sense.
 
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Caliburn said:
This seems nothing more than a euphemism of what Haki exactly is: willpower, and it's not even an entirely correct one.

Willpower inherently means that you are determined to do or withstand something. If you have no will, you're practically lifeless and the stronger you get, the stronger your willpower will become and vice-versa. They have a symbiotic relationship. You just reformulated that to being a 'desire', which isn't really an appropriate way of putting things IMO. Everyone is born with Haki and Luffy already used Haki before the time skip. The more obstacles and challenges one faces and overcomes, the stronger your Haki will become. Logically the more dangerous such a challenge is, the more progress you will make and characters like Luffy and Zoro were pretty much placed in do or die situations. On the other hand if you live a comfortable life, your Haki will most likely not evolve much.

The word 'desire' has way too much of a selfish connotation and on top of that there are no shortage of characters that have strong desires, but weak or mediocre Haki. Essentially you're really not saying anything new and just reformulated everything that was already explained in the series, only you did in an inaccurate and inappropriate way.

And that by taking away that desire you will unlock/strengthen your Haki, doesn't really make any sense. If anything it's the exact opposite as neither Luffy, Sanji nor Zoro gave up on their desires. If Luffy wanted meat, he would have to get it himself or he would starve. If Zoro wanted his sake, he would have to become stronger or Mihawk wouldn't allow it. The latter one is pretty much a variation of "eat your vegetables or no dessert" and Sanji wanted to have the culinary secrets of the Okama Kingdom, but it happens so that there are no women there. He didn't abandon his desire for women, it was merely temporary less important than his desire to become stronger.

You could describe that Haki is the means to satisfy your desires as the stronger your Haki becomes, the higher the chance is you will see your desires fulfilled. But as I said that has quite the selfish connotation and taking those desires away really doesn't make sense.
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