Hagoromo's Power vs. Juubi

[gerizzyYMcrew]

You idiot! He asked help from the Hokages help to summon team 7. Who do you think had the power to summon all the kages from the pure land? Huh?

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He was the one that brought the previous kages with his own chakra. The only thing the hokages did was help summon the bijuus and team 7 from kaguya's dimension.


You retard. Giving away a huge amount of chakra is not giving away ALL OF HIS ****ING CHAKRA.
I'm done. You're just too stupid.
Hagormoo NEVER SAID THAT HE GAVE AWAY ALL OF HIS CHAKRA.

you missed the part where hagoromo stated he performed in unison with the 5 kage before summoning the dead spirits...

if hagoromo had the powers of chakra to summon dead spirits (which is no small feat) then why did he need the kage?...BECAUSE HE GAVE IT ALL ****ING AWAY...nice job of getting it wrong AGAIN

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

you missed the part where hagoromo stated he performed in unison with the 5 kage before summoning the dead spirits...

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if hagoromo had the powers of chakra to summon dead spirits (which is no small feat) then why did he need the kage?...BECAUSE HE GAVE IT ALL ****ING AWAY...nice job of getting it wrong AGAIN

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[SenseiSama]

you missed the part where hagoromo stated he performed in unison with the 5 kage before summoning the dead spirits...

if hagoromo had the powers of chakra to summon dead spirits (which is no small feat) then why did he need the kage?...BECAUSE HE GAVE IT ALL ****ING AWAY...nice job of getting it wrong AGAIN

Hagoromo only needed Hashi & Co's helpy for summoning Team 7 from Kaguya's dimension, he summoned the dead Kages himself using Rnne Tensei.

And giving away chakra does not equate to giving away your power permanently, he gave the shinobi chakra in the same way he gave it to Naruto and Sasuke, after giving the shinobi his chakra he still had the ability to use his Rinnegan and send the Juubi to the moon.

 

[Seventh Sama]

It was never stated how strong is hagoromo's chakra compared to the juubi. i dont think it's as large or as potent as the juubi's power but it can rival it powerwise tho.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

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it feels good being right

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Hagoromo only needed Hashi & Co's helpy for summoning Team 7 from Kaguya's dimension, he summoned the dead Kages himself using Rnne Tensei.

And giving away chakra does not equate to giving away your power permanently, he gave the shinobi chakra in the same way he gave it to Naruto and Sasuke, after giving the shinobi his chakra he still had the ability to use his Rinnegan and send the Juubi to the moon.

you misunderstand me then

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Hagoromo only needed Hashi & Co's helpy for summoning Team 7 from Kaguya's dimension, he summoned the dead Kages himself using Rnne Tensei.

And giving away chakra does not equate to giving away your power permanently, he gave the shinobi chakra in the same way he gave it to Naruto and Sasuke, after giving the shinobi his chakra he still had the ability to use his Rinnegan and send the Juubi to the moon.

Please. Preach to this retard, because he thinks he's right.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Please. Preach to this retard, because he thinks he's right.

I am right

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

No they aren't and that isn't even debatable.
They can only take him out individually with their VOTE 2 powers.

Quad Bijudama reduces their avatars to dust, then Obito finishes them off while their bodies are left in a haggard state from the explosion just like they were during VOTE 2.

It is true JJ Obito have more firepower than Naruto/sasuke but that doesnt mean he is overall stronger.

 

[SenseiSama]

It is true JJ Obito have more firepower than Naruto/sasuke but that doesnt mean he is overall stronger.

He doesn't have more firepower, the Juubi's power was strong enough to prevent him from using his Sharingan or any form of ninjutsu besides TSB. It's like how Kurama stopped Naruto from using his chakra efficiently when he was a child because his body wasn't strong enough to adapt to bijuu chakra.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

He doesn't have more firepower, the Juubi's power was strong enough to prevent him from using his Sharingan or any form of ninjutsu besides TSB. It's like how Kurama stopped Naruto from using his chakra efficiently when he was a child because his body wasn't strong enough to adapt to bijuu chakra.

Literally everyone agrees that Quad Bijuudama >> Indra arrow or Naruto final vote 2 attack.Thats more firepower in my mind.

 

[SenseiSama]

Literally everyone agrees that Quad Bijuudama >> Indra arrow or Naruto final vote 2 attack.Thats more firepower in my mind.

What's Quad bijuudama ? And you do know VoTE2 doesn't count as Naruto and Sasuke's full power right ? They literally just unlocked their abilities the same day and based on their history they get a lot stronger once they've gained enough experience.

By the Last Naruto only needed BSM to defeat a JuubiJin-level opponent and Sasuke negged a meteorite in base mode, there's a reason Kishi refuses to display their Six Path abilities in their prime.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

What's Quad bijuudama ? And you do know VoTE2 doesn't count as Naruto and Sasuke's full power right ? They literally just unlocked their abilities the same day and based on their history they get a lot stronger once they've gained enough experience.

By the Last Naruto only needed BSM to defeat a JuubiJin-level opponent and Sasuke negged a meteorite in base mode, there's a reason Kishi refuses to display their Six Path abilities in their prime.

Look all chakra comes from Juubi and you cant have more potent chakra than that. When you have Juubi you have rikudo chakra which is the most potent chakra in NV. JJ Obito,Sasuke and Naruto have Rikudo chakra so all 3 have most potent version of chakra.

And since Obito has Juubi his chakra reserves are >> naruto >> sasuke chakra reserves.

More chakra you have stronger Juubidama/Bijuudama/PS attack gets.

So Obito can produce stronger attack than those 2 .

 

[Eng nawashi]

More chakra : not even comparable to JJ chakra .Sasuke chakra would be around sakura's yin seal chakra by feats :lol .

Stronger chakra: nope but naruto's chakra is comparable and Sasuke's isn't too much far away .

Superior power : both Naruto and sasuke has way superior defence to JJ TSB but that is it .JJ fire power is way above theirs .

 

[NarutoX28]

Literally everyone agrees that Quad Bijuudama >> Indra arrow or Naruto final vote 2 attack.Thats more firepower in my mind.

To be honest, I don't agree with that seeing as how Madara's PS tanked the explosion caused by Quad Juubidamas.

To be fair, both of VoTE2 Naruto and Sasuke's attacks were enhanced by chakra enhanced by the equivalent of the Earth's entire energy on top of their own massive Rikudou Enhanced Chakra as well. Wouldn't be surprised if it outclassed the Quad Juubidama explosion.

 

[ARGUS]

So, it is quite commonly agreed that RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke can individually defeat Juubito
and even Juubi Jin Madara (with only one eye).

So, when Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke each half of his power, was his chakra
A. more powerful than the chakra of the Juubi

HIs chakra has more or less the same potency as the Juubis. Juubis might be abit higher though

B. more chakra than that of the Juubi

Helll Nah

c. just gave abilities that happened to be more OP

yeah abilities plus his chakra potency that buffed their prior abilities

If A, then I thought the Juubi had the most powerful chakra already, and absorbing further chakra
didn't increase its potency, only amount.

kaguyas (Juubis) chakra is the most powerful

If B, then how does Hagoromo have over double that of the Juubi.

Obviously he doesnnt

If C, then just why? Because Naruto and Sasuke, at least at the time, weren't as skilled as Madara.
Maybe Obito but still.

Naruto and Sasuke are inferior to full power Madara. as for obito well, his defense isnt powerful enough to surive him against naruto and sasukes attacks. So its mostly a matter of abiltiies, in whcih Obito is mostly limited to TSB and Sword of Nonoboku (with weak will against naruto). He cant prep Juubidama agaisnt them either which obviously hurts him

And would a Naruto or Sasuke that got the Juubi that Madara absorbed be as strong, stronger, or
weaker than they were thanks to Hagoromo's powerup?

Sasuke with the Juubi boost would be stronger than his Rikudo self.
Naruto might be stronger too, since he can still use those TSB to form his nukes like BDRS, YRS and he has a far stronger bijuu boosting his abiltiies

 

[isonworth18]

Are you serious? After Naruto was revived in RSM, he completely outclassed juubi jin madara, madara literally ran to get his other eye.

ikr i agree with you