Hagoromo is the most overrated character in the Naruto series

[Lightbringer]

Because the most overrated character isn't Itachi.


Also Naruto and Sasuke already know the way to defeat Kaguya is to seal her and are both using the powers given to them by the Sage.

When Hagoromo and Hamura fought Kaguya, they probably didn't know they couldn't kill her and eventually created the seal.

 

[Konohas gelber Blitz]

Fail Thread.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Well judging from weak power up he gave to naruto and sasuke and the GOD HAX kakashi got from Obito.
Its easy to see that hagoromo isnt all they say

He gave naruto the power to blitz kaguya, who blew up kakashi's susanoo with 0 effort :hyper:

 

[KCMNaruto]

don't forget he did all that (the split of the ten-tail and sealing of his body in the moon) at a very late stage in his life... he was really old and still had the chakra to do all that...and not die right after. its amazing.

Yeah , he is really great.

Well judging from weak power up he gave to naruto and sasuke and the GOD HAX kakashi got from Obito.
Its easy to see that hagoromo isnt all they say

Haha, very funny but manga disagree:

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Because the most overrated character isn't Itachi.

Also Naruto and Sasuke already know the way to defeat Kaguya is to seal her and are both using the powers given to them by the Sage.

When Hagoromo and Hamura fought Kaguya, they probably didn't know they couldn't kill her and eventually created the seal.

Exactly that even more show how awesome he is.

Fail Thread.

so truth.

He gave naruto the power to blitz kaguya, who blew up kakashi's susanoo with 0 effort :hyper:

so true, respect

 

[Blackdeath667]

So that would basically mean that Madara underestimated Black Zetsu's will.

he thought it was HIS WILL dont you get that

same as everybody else

why expect an attack from yourself

why not trust yourself lol

he didnt underestimate himself because by your logic that what he did lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

He gave naruto the power to blitz kaguya, who blew up kakashi's susanoo with 0 effort :hyper:

Obito gave kakashi the power to wound STRONGER kaguya at 1st try, naruto had too many occasions and kaguya was weaker

Haha, very funny but manga disagree:

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Obito is just being humble here and at that time Obito had no Double MS so things have changed

 

[KCMNaruto]

Obito gave kakashi the power to wound STRONGER kaguya at 1st try, naruto had too many occasions and kaguya was weaker

Obito is just being humble here and at that time Obito had no Double MS so things have changed

excuse excuse excuse ! I can see everywhere excusee.

Sorry but Obito spoke it himself noone forced him to say it.

Obito is kamui user so he knows his limit. Hagoromo is not overrated -> he is simply such godly

 

[Rikudo SenninKun Namikaze]

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[AlphaScythian]

excuse excuse excuse ! I can see everywhere excusee.

Sorry but Obito spoke it himself noone forced him to say it.

Obito is kamui user so he knows his limit. Hagoromo is not overrated -> he is simply such godly

How is that excuses? Kakashi succeeded vs stronger kaguya at 1st try, naruto didnt. Its a fact start dealing with it.
Yes it could have been obito's limit at that time, but then he got DMS and hacked kaguya's dimensions saved sasuke, sakura, nardo and kakashi (seems hogoromo's power not so good that Obito had to do the job)

 

[KCMNaruto]

How is that excuses? Kakashi succeeded vs stronger kaguya at 1st try, naruto didnt. Its a fact start dealing with it.
Yes it could have been obito's limit at that time, but then he got DMS and hacked kaguya's dimensions saved sasuke, sakura, nardo and kakashi (seems hogoromo's power not so good that Obito had to do the job)

Nope, it doesn't change the thing. Obito already had one MS, besides he already used his eye in connection with Kakashi using Obito's eye at the same time so he know how powerfull was Double MS, also he had Rikudou chakra, so he knows how powerfull it is.

The only thing which changes was seeing how both DMS work... but it is not factor because he already had Rikudou chakra powered MS.

Hagoromo's hype still true

 

[AlphaScythian]

Nope, it doesn't change the thing. Obito already had one MS, besides he already used his eye in connection with Kakashi using Obito's eye at the same time so he know how powerfull was Double MS, also he had Rikudou chakra, so he knows how powerfull it is.

The only thing which changes was seeing how both DMS work... but it is not factor because he already had Rikudou chakra powered MS.

Hagoromo's hype still true

False. That double kamui combination isnt the same. Both kakashi and obito were weakened, and eyes only bring their true power at pair in one user. Obito was also suppressing BZ and taking a toll of that lame rinnegan he barely used.
When obito had rikudou chakra he couldnt use kamui, he still got some chakra left after but it sure wasnt that much as compared to juubito.

You may cling to a hype but feats prove Obito's power to be above that of nardo and sasuke.
Also the moon was created by sealing kaguya by hagoromo and hamura, so its not solely his feat.

 

[KCMNaruto]

False. That double kamui combination isnt the same. Both kakashi and obito were weakened, and eyes only bring their true power at pair in one user. Obito was also suppressing BZ and taking a toll of that lame rinnegan he barely used.
When obito had rikudou chakra he couldnt use kamui, he still got some chakra left after but it sure wasnt that much as compared to juubito.


You may cling to a hype but feats prove Obito's power to be above that of nardo and sasuke.
Also the moon was created by sealing kaguya by hagoromo and hamura, so its not solely his feat.

lol at lame Rinnegan, you really try your best.
Rikudou chakra wasn't reason that Obito was unable to use Kamui...
However the fact is he still has it, the same or bigger amount then Kakashi so he would still be weake then Hagoromo.
I will cling to hype until it is contradicted.
Also the last you got it wrong. Hamura only helped Hagoromo fight then seal Ten tails in Hagoromo, and most likely then died.
Hagoromo was at deathbed when he extracted Ten tails, split it's chakra in nine parts, created tailed beasts and sent empty Ten tails husk in space.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Kishi retconned dat. Kaguya used IT before therefore the moon already existed

Or she used it in conjunction with her Byakugan therefore being able to use it on the world with her godly vision. Is there a scan showing the moon being there before Hagoromo's birth? No, therefore Kaguya needing the moon to cast IT previously is pure fanfic.

 

[AlphaScythian]

lol at lame Rinnegan, you really try your best.
Rikudou chakra wasn't reason that Obito was unable to use Kamui...
However the fact is he still has it, the same or bigger amount then Kakashi so he would still be weake then Hagoromo.
I will cling to hype until it is contradicted.
Also the last you got it wrong. Hamura only helped Hagoromo fight then seal Ten tails in Hagoromo, and most likely then died.
Hagoromo was at deathbed when he extracted Ten tails, split it's chakra in nine parts, created tailed beasts and sent empty Ten tails husk in space.

@bold How does that make sense? Yes hagoromo has more rikudou chakra then obito but so does current nardo yet kakashi would neg diffed nardo and probably sasuke at once. Rikudou power (even a little) + kamui hax is too OP.

And yes the hype SEEMS TO BE CONTRADICTED

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[YellowFang]

1- Featless can't be overrated...
2- Hiruzen with feats can always be overrated...
3- MS Sasuke, KCM Naruto & MS Kakashi > Hiruzen individually...

 

[KCMNaruto]

@bold How does that make sense? Yes hagoromo has more rikudou chakra then obito but so does current nardo yet kakashi would neg diffed nardo and probably sasuke at once. Rikudou power (even a little) + kamui hax is too OP.

And yes the hype SEEMS TO BE CONTRADICTED

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It makes sense because he had Rikudou chakra + Kamui at the same time, and he still admited inferiority to Double Rinnegan in original wielder eyesockets.

The manga was so confusing about it so it is hard to tell,why ?
Because First Black Zetsu speaks about Kaguya being part of Juubi also and that when he says Hamura and Hagoromo sealed it, then he says that The Juubi was turned into core of Chibaku tensei and sent in space creating moon.

There is no contradiction especially if you consider Yin Kurama stating that Hagoromo was immobilized after extracting and spliting Ten tails chakra then creating moon. Yin Kurama never mentions Hamura, so you should re-read manga,but instead you read only parts which fit your opinion.

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^^ He did all of that upon deathbed and being very old

 

[Made in Heaven]

What a hypocritical thread Lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

It makes sense because he had Rikudou chakra + Kamui at the same time, and he still admited inferiority to Double Rinnegan in original wielder eyesockets.

Yet with one rinnegan Obito's rinnegan techs were stronger then nagato's. Seems like using other's eyes takes extra chakra toll as opposed to original user, like hacking foreign dimension perhaps, yet having one rinngan obito still supressed juubi and even could steal chakra from madara. Feats contradict Obito's statement U_U

The manga was so confusing about it so it is hard to tell,why ?
Because First Black Zetsu speaks about Kaguya being part of Juubi also and that when he says Hamura and Hagoromo sealed it, then he says that The Juubi was turned into core of Chibaku tensei and sent in space creating moon.

There is no contradiction especially if you consider Yin Kurama stating that Hagoromo was immobilized after extracting and spliting Ten tails chakra then creating moon. Yin Kurama never mentions Hamura, so you should re-read manga,but instead you read only parts which fit your opinion.

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^^ He did all of that upon deathbed and being very old

It is very confusing indeed. The seal that nardo and sasuke have turns juubi/kaguya into chibaku core and thus forms new meteorite/planet...it cant be the same seal that is used to absorb juubi into oneself and BZ clearly states that yin yan seal was used.

Maybe hagoromo used COAT a midst the fight to create bijuus out of juubi. Kurama too was too young to know things that happened before it's birth.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

He did make the moon though. Moon > Your fav.

My favorite is Master Roshi.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yet with one rinnegan Obito's rinnegan techs were stronger then nagato's. Seems like using other's eyes takes extra chakra toll as opposed to original user, like hacking foreign dimension perhaps, yet having one rinngan obito still supressed juubi and even could steal chakra from madara. Feats contradict Obito's statement U_U

But Hagoromo is wielder of Double Rinnegan and in addition he is original wielder, so Hagoromo is still above Obito.
Obito admitted being unable to wield both Rinnegan, even if they were not his, it shows that double Rinnegan > any doujutsu until stated otherwise by manga.

It is very confusing indeed. The seal that nardo and sasuke have turns juubi/kaguya into chibaku core and thus forms new meteorite/planet...it cant be the same seal that is used to absorb juubi into oneself and BZ clearly states that yin yan seal was used.

Maybe hagoromo used COAT a midst the fight to create bijuus out of juubi. Kurama too was too young to know things that happened before it's birth.

Nope, BZ first talk about Yin-Yang seal used by Hamura and Hagoromo on Kaguya then he talk about Juubi being sent in space and creating moon.

This is as I explained unless Hagoromo and Hamura separated Kaguya somehow from Juubi... sealing her first, then sealing Juubi in Hagoromo. Later Hagoromo extracted Ten tails-> split it's chakra-> five forms(creation of bijuu)-> created moon from juubi empty husk