Hagoromo didn't create the moon on his deathbed. #MANGAFACT

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He didn't create it alone nor on his deathbed.


And for creating the bijuu, he most likely used COAT like here


And made the bijuu like here
 

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Most likely his brother just went his own way and the story changed as time went on
 

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1. your first scann is about sealing kaguya.. you or any of us dont know hes history so dont judge him too soon..

2. erhm... so? a guy who is even able to use such OP jutsu as COAT is a perfect feat at itself! so less hate...

3. blah.. i guess you are just too stupid to realsie the manga ..
 

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Your panel doesn't really prove anything. Hagoromo already stated what happened when they fought the Juubi. They inside of himself. So that is what happened until proven otherwise. If what you claim went down really happened, then Hagoromo never would have became the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and that is also a proven fact in this manga, unless you are denying that too? Even though Hagoromo is being depicted with the Gudo Dama, a Juubi Jin's ability. This is the factual and canonical order of things.

1. Hagoromo and Hamura fight and defeat Juubi.

2. They seal it inside Hagoromo.

3. Hagoromo grows old, and extracts the Juubi and divides it into the 9 Bijuu.

4. He's left weakened because of the Juubi's removal, so nothing happens here.

5. Once he's regained his strength, he removes the Gedo from his body and seals it using Chibaku Tensei.

6. Later he dies.
 

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1. your first scann is about sealing kaguya.. you or any of us dont know hes history so dont judge him too soon..

2. erhm... so? a guy who is even able to use such OP jutsu as COAT is a perfect feat at itself! so less hate...

3. blah.. i guess you are just too stupid to realsie the manga ..

What am I supposed to realize?

Except since he was introduced it was implied that he never created the moon alone.
BZ even stated himself what happen.
 

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BZ stated that the seals used created the moon.


Who used the seals? Hagoromo and hamura.


And what happened? It became the moon.


There's no way to get around this post, call me pathetic, an idiot , whatever, I'm correct accept the truth.
 

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Your panel doesn't really prove anything. Hagoromo already stated what happened when they fought the Juubi. They inside of himself. So that is what happened until proven otherwise. If what you claim went down really happened, then Hagoromo never would have became the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and that is also a proven fact in this manga, unless you are denying that too? Even though Hagoromo is being depicted with the Gudo Dama, a Juubi Jin's ability. This is the factual and canonical order of things.

1. Hagoromo and Hamura fight and defeat Juubi.

2. They seal it inside Hagoromo.

3. Hagoromo grows old, and extracts the Juubi and divides it into the 9 Bijuu.

4. He's left weakened because of the Juubi's removal, so nothing happens here.

5. Once he's regained his strength, he removes the Gedo from his body and seals it using Chibaku Tensei.

6. Later he dies.

This just completely solo'd the entire thread.
 

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Your panel doesn't really prove anything. Hagoromo already stated what happened when they fought the Juubi. They inside of himself. So that is what happened until proven otherwise. If what you claim went down really happened, then Hagoromo never would have became the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and that is also a proven fact in this manga, unless you are denying that too? Even though Hagoromo is being depicted with the Gudo Dama, a Juubi Jin's ability. This is the factual and canonical order of things.

1. Hagoromo and Hamura fight and defeat Juubi.

2. They seal it inside Hagoromo.

3. Hagoromo grows old, and extracts the Juubi and divides it into the 9 Bijuu.

4. He's left weakened because of the Juubi's removal, so nothing happens here.

5. Once he's regained his strength, he removes the Gedo from his body and seals it using Chibaku Tensei.

6. Later he dies.

Then explain the bullshit BZ said about the moon, Kaguya's flashbacks, and statements.

YOU DON'T GOT THE ANSWERS SWAY!
 

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You know what else is possible that doesn't even matter?

Gudo dama isn't just a juubi host ability.
 

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Then explain the bullshit BZ said about the moon, Kaguya's flashbacks, and statements.

YOU DON'T GOT THE ANSWERS SWAY!

What he said about the whole Juubi being sealed in the Moon during Hagoromo and Hamura's fight with it makes no sense, and even contradicts with the rest of his story, so I'm inclined to hold Hagoromo's depiction of what happened above him.

1. He states that the whole Juubi was sealed in that instance, but if it was, then Hagoromo never would have been the Juubi Jinchuuriki, and we know that its fact that he was.

2. Manga shows that Rikudo was old when the Bijuu were formed, , once again, impossible if he had created the Bijuu when he fought the Juubi.

3. Hagoromo clear cut states that they sealed it inside of him, not in the moon.

You know what else is possible that doesn't even matter?

Gudo dama isn't just a juubi host ability.

Yes, it is. Don't mention Kaguya as she ate the Shinju's fruit, gaining all of its power. No one else has ever had the Gudo Dama without having the power of all 9 Bijuu, and Rikudo's Chakra.
 

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What he said about the whole Juubi being sealed in the Moon during Hagoromo and Hamura's fight with it makes no sense, and even contradicts with the rest of his story, so I'm inclined to hold Hagoromo's depiction of what happened above him.

1. He states that the whole Juubi was sealed in that instance, but if it was, then Hagoromo never would have been the Juubi Jinchuuriki, and we know that its fact that he was.

2. Manga shows that Rikudo was old when the Bijuu were formed, , once again, impossible if he had created the Bijuu when he fought the Juubi.

3. Hagoromo clear cut states that they sealed it inside of him, not in the moon.

The juubi is the Mazo isn't it?

He most likely drained it's chakra somehow and sealed it into hagoromo, let the Mazo go into the moon, and then used that chakra that they sealed to make the bijuu.
 

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agreed.

New mangafacts>old mangafacts. (for all those who use hagoromo's claims)
I guess hagoromo lied muahahaha
 

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Actually, the moon already existed before because Kaguya used IT


So there is some sort of retcon
 

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Actually, the moon already existed before because Kaguya used IT


So there is some sort of retcon

Maybe she used it in another dimension, hagoromo did say that she came from a fare away place.
 

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I made a thread like this months ago, manga keeps going towards in my favor.
 

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Where are u getting that Hamura had the moon seal from, when his hand was never shown??
They just fought together, but Hagoromo had both the seals. Maybe people are getting confused from the parallelism that Hamura had the yin seal. U_U
And yeah this soloed ur post........xd

Your panel doesn't really prove anything. Hagoromo already stated what happened when they fought the Juubi. They inside of himself. So that is what happened until proven otherwise. If what you claim went down really happened, then Hagoromo never would have became the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and that is also a proven fact in this manga, unless you are denying that too? Even though Hagoromo is being depicted with the Gudo Dama, a Juubi Jin's ability. This is the factual and canonical order of things.

1. Hagoromo and Hamura fight and defeat Juubi.

2. They seal it inside Hagoromo.

3. Hagoromo grows old, and extracts the Juubi and divides it into the 9 Bijuu.

4. He's left weakened because of the Juubi's removal, so nothing happens here.

5. Once he's regained his strength, he removes the Gedo from his body and seals it using Chibaku Tensei.

6. Later he dies.
 

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The juubi is the Mazo isn't it?

He most likely drained it's chakra somehow and sealed it into hagoromo, let the Mazo go into the moon, and then used that chakra that they sealed to make the bijuu.

Lol. Wrong. Having the Empty shell of the Juubi doesn't give you the same powers as being the Juubi's Jin, otherwise Obito would have forgotten about the Bijuu, and you forget that Hagoromo already stated that he broke up Juubi inside of himself into the 9 Bijuu.
 
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