GUYS! The Manga is WRONG!

[Netsui]

Madara said he was the strongest shinobi.... madara didn't live long enough to make a statement that he IS the strongest shinobi


And yet he continues to update new databooks with same old hiruzen hype..or references the old ones

Yea.. he totally changed his mind

when did the last db go up to? naruto learning sage mode..

I know that Madara didn't live long enough to make that statement, because he hasn't seen Hiruzen fight. This is just subject where I can't say who I think is stronger because we haven't seen Prime Hiruzen, and we haven't seen everything from Hashirama. Which is why I'm hoping to get a flashback from Madara, but I wouldn't mind seeing Prime Hiruzen. xd

 

[Hipster Madara]

Fellow Hashi fans, can I have Kishi's contact number, need to speak with him about Itachi real quick

yea...
kishi changes his mind:
1. wasn't going to write about kyuubi attack that much
2. wasn't going to make itachi a good guy

 

[Zlad]

Who cares about what Kishi wrote for 8 years ago, we are in 2012. He clearly state that Hashi is the strongest Hokage

 

[Knoestknakker]

How can he be wrong? I mean, how wrong can he be?

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

I would like to quote this post right here. It is the best post and sums everything up.

3rd hokage can't stop a full powered susano'o like Hashirama can.

Hashirama has the direct bloodline of the So6P, his energy, charka and life force are far greater than Hiruzen's

 

[Owarij]

Who cares about what Kishi wrote for 8 years ago, we are in 2012. He clearly state that Hashi is the strongest Hokage

no he didn't.. he's never stated that..

 

[Bboyinsayn]

Hashi>Hiruz

 

[LegendaryAce]

Watch how this drasticly changes to hiruzen vs hashirama...edo madara rolls them both...o wait hashirama has a chance...SO6P owns all!

Owarij or Ryuu or anyone should make a full full post on how the fight would go with their abilities...prime hiruzen vs prime hashirama ...fair fight to the death include all mentioned jutsus which they can use no biased then people could debate from that

 

[ChrisWolf]

Guys, i've realised the manga is wrong! The manga said Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage, but Clearly Hashirama is the strongest Hokage. I mean come on! Therefore, the manga is wrong!

When did the manga even say that hiruzen was the strongest hokage?

 

[Cerox0]

I just find it contradicting sometimes. The manga stated:

1. Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage.
AND
2. Hashirama is the strongest shinobi.

If anything they would all be in past tense if they already died. That's why I never say who I think is stronger, because I'm neutral because we haven't seen everything from Hashirama and Hiruzen.

Thank you, but don't bother because people here will try to force each other's opinions down each other's throat because they're all mini kishis

 

[Enton]

yea...
kishi changes his mind:
1. wasn't going to write about kyuubi attack that much
2. wasn't going to make itachi a good guy

Hey, would you mind showing my a transcript of your conversation. It would really help our Hashi argument. Thanks

 

[DeadSoul]

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[-Logic-]

And yet he continues to update new databooks with same old hiruzen hype..or references the old ones

Yea.. he totally changed his mind

when did the last db go up to? naruto learning sage mode..

I'm sorry Owarij, but you'll be proved wrong eventually, your beloved Sandaime isn't as strong as you think he is. Mangakas make plenty of mistakes, and the Hiruzen/Hashirama power level one is the biggest one he's made. Is it not obvious to you that Kishi has implied several times that when Hiruzen fought the 1st and 2nd hokage they weren't at their full strength. Lady Chiyo even said that this Edo Tensei has improved beyond Orochimarus, but you obviously fail to see that, and you obviously fail to see that Hashirama > Hiruzen. I feel bad for you, you're blinded by your stupidity. Sorry to insult you like this, Owarij, but you're 100% wrong here.

Who cares about what Kishi wrote for 8 years ago, we are in 2012. He clearly state that Hashi is the strongest Hokage

Omg, Zlad, thank you for using your brain unlike these Hiruzen fanboys, well done!

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

When did the manga even say that hiruzen was the strongest hokage?

You are correct bro

 

[Enton]

Haha, that's right guys, lets all LAUGH at the people who use manga statements. They don't know what they're talking about, silly fanboys!

 

[Owarij]

I'm sorry Owarij, but you'll be proved wrong eventually, your beloved Sandaime isn't as strong as you think he is. Mangakas make plenty of mistakes, and the Hiruzen/Hashirama power level one is the biggest one he's made. Is it not obvious to you that Kishi has implied several times that when Hiruzen fought the 1st and 2nd hokage they weren't at their full strength. Lady Chiyo even said that this Edo Tensei has improved beyond Orochimarus, but you obviously fail to see that, and you obviously fail to see that Hashirama > Hiruzen. I feel bad for you, you're blinded by your stupidity. Sorry to insult you like this, Owarij.

I'm sorry but the one blinded by stupidity is you...if kishi "changed his mind" he would have obviously stopped updating hiruzen's databook pages with similar thing... he didn't which means your opinion is false..

he had most od his entire story planned out from the beginning.. whether it be Itachi being good, the role of suigetsu , karin and juugo for kabuto's sm..

everything falls into play..

honestly , some dumb logic you people use.... In part 1 when oro said itachi is stronger than him should I disregard that also? since years have passed?

 

[Netsui]

You are correct bro

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Right here. Although I still think threads like these are like Minato vs Itachi, because we have not seen prime Hiruzen or everything from Hashirama. That's why these threads should really stop, because we may never see Prime Hiruzen, or everything from Hashirama.

We cannot say the manga is wrong, because that would mean Kishi is wrong. How could the writer be wrong about the manga he writes? We can't. >.>

 

[Blaze Release]

Dude your thread title needs rewording quick because i get what you are trying to say but the title isnt helping.
What you shouldve said is that character's words/opinions (hype) shouldnt be taken absolute because there is so many things wrong when you go down that route

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

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Right here. Although I still think threads like these are like Minato vs Itachi, because we have not seen prime Hiruzen or everything from Hashirama. That's why these threads should really stop, because we may never see Prime Hiruzen, or everything from Hashirama.

We cannot say the manga is wrong, because that would mean Kishi is wrong. How could the writer be wrong about the manga he writes? We can't. >.>

That problem with that page is that Iruka said it. Iruka has never seen Hashirama or ever lived during his time. Hell he didn't even live during the thirds prime.

 

[Enton]

Dude your thread title needs rewording quick because i get what you are trying to say but the title isnt helping.
What you shouldve said is that character's words/opinions (hype) shouldnt be taken absolute because there is so many things wrong when you go down that route

Yes, of course! We must only count Hashirama's character hype, because it is the only one that's legit!