Hiruzen even if Guy is exceptional.
Post this in the fanfic section, Hiruzen knows 8 gates.Guy blitzes him with 7th gate and spams hirudora
i must have missed that part, i doubt this... but even taking your word for it, his body cant handle it, otherwise he would have used it vs orochimaru instead of killing himself to seal his armsPost this in the fanfic section, Hiruzen knows 8 gates.
It's true that Hiruzen does know 8 gates. It would have been foolish for him to use it against Orochimaru, because he would have been wasting chakra with Taijutsu techniques when he needed sealing jutsu to deal with the edo kages and orochimaru.i must have missed that part, i doubt this... but even taking your word for it, his body cant handle it, otherwise he would have used it vs orochimaru instead of killing himself to seal his arms
Guy goes 7 gates and proceeds to break all the bones in fodderzens body.... hiruzen is waaay too overhyped, and his only feat is dying to orochimaru... prime hiruzen is a featess myth
and where exactly does it say that Hiruzen knows EIG????? may i ask. got any proof of it. Secondly Might Guy fought on par with Madara and actually defeated him if it wasnt for his healing prowess, which Hiruzen does not possess. Might Gai with 8th Gate open would smash hiruzen, with sheer force and speed even with enma as a tool.It's true that Hiruzen does know 8 gates. It would have been foolish for him to use it against Orochimaru, because he would have been wasting chakra with Taijutsu techniques when he needed sealing jutsu to deal with the edo kages and orochimaru.
To OP: Hiruzen wins with Mid to High Diff. Hiruzen + Enma is enough to handle a 7th gate Might Guy, and if push comes to shove hiruzen can just unlock the gates himself while utilizing Emna, which would completely overwhelm Guy.
The 4th databook states Hiruzen is capable of using all techniques in Konoha. That being said, being able to use the eight inner gates does not mean mastering them. Kakashi was able to use the eight inner gates but only ever opened the first one, and Gai and Lee showed that it took years and years of extremely hard training to open multiple. 16/17 year old Lee could only open up the 6th despite years of training solely in taijutsu with the greatest taijutsu user ever in Gai.and where exactly does it say that Hiruzen knows EIG????? may i ask. got any proof of it. Secondly Might Guy fought on par with Madara and actually defeated him if it wasnt for his healing prowess, which Hiruzen does not possess. Might Gai with 8th Gate open would smash hiruzen, with sheer force and speed even with enma as a tool.
And yet he never shown The Gates so even if The databook Said he could use all techniques in konoha, it is still mere speculation if he could actually do it since he never used it and there is no hard proof of it. However it id possible that he could, and considering that he was able to use all techniques including basic five elements, ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu as Well as Fuuinjutsu and Kinjutsu and summoning he would have an Extreme Arsenal so there is The possibility he could beat gai but to be honest there is no Real Way to Prove whe is better since Gais 8 Gates rivaler madara in itself and he was hailed as The Best taijutsu Warrior.The 4th databook states Hiruzen is capable of using all techniques in Konoha. That being said, being able to use the eight inner gates does not mean mastering them. Kakashi was able to use the eight inner gates but only ever opened the first one, and Gai and Lee showed that it took years and years of extremely hard training to open multiple. 16/17 year old Lee could only open up the 6th despite years of training solely in taijutsu with the greatest taijutsu user ever in Gai.