goten or kid trunks should been in the tournamnet

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anybody else think they should have added goten and kid trunks and kicked out 2 others? I mean imagine it would have been great to see goten or kid trunks go up against someone like cabba man so much potential wasted. but whats your thouhts on the lineup as of now?
 

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Goten is just a small Goku and trunks is a less cool version of the Trunks we just had so nah...

We should get a good explanation though as why they're not involved they haven't been in a major arc all of super.
 

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Goten is just a small Goku and trunks is a less cool version of the Trunks we just had so nah...

We should get a good explanation though as why they're not involved they haven't been in a major arc all of super.
goten is a smarter goku and more respectful as proven in this episode, i prefer goten over goku honestly, gokus getting a big head, disobeying beerus like that
 

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krillins fine but roshi needs out
Krillin weak af too tho.
This, both goten and kid trunks could mop the floor with those 3 solo, and plus there's nothing in the rules barring fusion that we know of so they could just fight as gotenks and hope there's enough time between fights to re fuse
Ikr? Like why is Roshi there he's legit weak af compared to people om dbs now. Krillin and Tien is strong and all but nothing compared to trunks and Goten.
goten is a smarter goku and more respectful as proven in this episode, i prefer goten over goku honestly, gokus getting a big head, disobeying beerus like that
Lol i've never been a fan of Goku as a character. Well maybe except on dragon ball. DBZ and onward i can't stand Goku much. Goten is my favorite character in dbz from Goku's family.
 

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anybody else think they should have added goten and kid trunks and kicked out 2 others? I mean imagine it would have been great to see goten or kid trunks go up against someone like cabba man so much potential wasted. but whats your thouhts on the lineup as of now?
I think you cant put the pressure of this tournament on Goten and Trunks.
If Goten/Trunks messes up it can result in the destruction of universe 7.
That gives unhealthy lvls of responsibility and pressure to those kids that they cant/shouldnt carry.

There may be an age restriction for the tournament.

Bulma and Chichi probably wont allow it either.
 
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This, both goten and kid trunks could mop the floor with those 3 solo, and plus there's nothing in the rules barring fusion that we know of so they could just fight as gotenks and hope there's enough time between fights to re fuse
It's against the rules to use fusion probably since vegeta said so in the last tournament. But i suppose the potara should be an exception..
 

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It's against the rules to use fusion probably since vegeta said so in the last tournament. But i suppose the potara should be an exception..
Why would the potarra be an exception?
As we know since dragonball super Zamasu arc, the potarra have a timelimit too.

Besides even if they didnt have one, why would Goten and Trunks use them if it would be permanent for them?
 

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Why would the potarra be an exception?
As we know since dragonball super Zamasu arc, the potarra have a timelimit too.

Besides even if they didnt have one, why would Goten and Trunks use them if it would be permanent for them?
The potara is the gods holy artifacts, it's the proper way to do fusion. Zeno might see this as a opportunity to make things more intresting...
 

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The potara is the gods holy artifacts, it's the proper way to do fusion. Zeno might see this as a opportunity to make things more intresting...
In that case other universes could use them too. It would be better for Goku and Vegeta or Goku and Gohan f.e. to use them instead of Goten and Trunks.

Besides as said Goten and Trunks are still kids.
You dont only need to have developed a certain lvl of power.
You also need to have a certain lvl of emotional development for it to be healthy to take part.

The tournament of power is no place for kids
They should not be carrying that pressure.

When everyone (all universes) was present, the grandpriest openly confirmed to Sidra (god of destruction) and Rou (supreme Kai) of universe 9, that if the match is not to Zen-oh his satisfaction that the match could get cancelled and that getting erased is among the possibilities.

That is no environment for kids.
 

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If Akira made them train like Goku and Vegeta, they would have surpassed everyone.
Why? You think their potential growth is higher than Goku and Vegeta?
The fact that they are really strong at a young age doesnt have to mean that they can grow to great hights as well.
As starting point and growth are two different things.
Vegeta was born with a much higher power lvl than Goku, but Goku managed to grow better in power.

By my knowledge the only saiyan in universe 7 who could surpass Goku and Vegeta if he trained at the same lvl of Goku and Vegeta is Gohan (according to Vegeta).
 

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Why? You think their potential growth is higher than Goku and Vegeta?
The fact that they are really strong at a young age doesnt have to mean that they can grow to great hights as well.
As starting point and growth are two different things.
Vegeta was born with a much higher power lvl than Goku, but Goku managed to grow better in power.

By my knowledge the only saiyan in universe 7 who could surpass Goku and Vegeta if he trained at the same lvl of Goku and Vegeta is Gohan (according to Vegeta).
That is true. However, they seem to have a great talent. I mean looking at Future Trunks, who was nearly matching SSJ3 Goku in the DBS Manga with Super Saiyan 2 (Full Power probably), I can fairly say Present Trunks can do the same. If they were trained properly , I can see them surpassing Goku, Vegeta, and even Gohan.

Only reason why Gohan could be the strongest is because of his hidden power.
 

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That is true. However, they seem to have a great talent. I mean looking at Future Trunks, who was nearly matching SSJ3 Goku in the DBS Manga with Super Saiyan 2 (Full Power probably), I can fairly say Present Trunks can do the same. If they were trained properly , I can see them surpassing Goku, Vegeta, and even Gohan.

Only reason why Gohan could be the strongest is because of his hidden power.
Future Trunks after much experience with ssj2, managed to go near ssj3 lvl as ssj2 in the manga indeed. In the anime he got rekt ezmode though.
However Vegeta was able to go ssj3 lvl as ssj2 as well when Bulma got slapped by Beerus. Its not something totally unique that we havent seen before and I dont consider future Trunks=Trunks (more on that later).

Gohan seemed to have more talent to grow in power in general compared to Goku and Vegeta, regardless of the subject hidden power.

Future Trunks wasnt all that special power growth wise as
Gohan as 11 year old surpassed him.
Gohan surpassed him (and also Goku and Vegeta) already as just ssj1 even and especially as ssj2.

Future Trunks has shown something impressive compared to the other known saiyans when he transformed into the new ssjrage transformation.
Something gained under the intense emotion of being called sinner and him being called the reason why his timeline was being screwed by the Zamasus. This while he was doing his best to protect, yet suddenly he is called the reason for the destruction. No dragonballs to fix things. No sensubeans. All his timeline family dead. Even Ssjblue Goku and Vegeta (father) from a different timeline struggling in being able to help his timeline out. All the people and the world he cares for in danger.
No method around to overcome the threat.


Yeah ssjrage is getting summoned out of an extreme situation to say the least.

I dont see our timeline Trunks unleashing super saiyan rage as its not likely that he will go through the same intensity and desperation as future Trunks did. Besides they are not the same Trunks.
They grew up differently and were born into different worlds.
Vegeta in our timeline f.e. had seen 2 ssj (future Trunks and Goku) which could be a change among other changes that influenced how Trunks was conceived and turned out compared to future Trunks.

Goten doesnt seem very different power growth talent wise than Trunks so I dont scale him above Goku and Vegeta either.

If all would focus the same on becoming better it would imo probably in the end be:
1.Gohan.
2.Goku/Vegeta.
3.Trunks/Goten.

However Gohan slacked in peacetime, went scholar and fell far behind Goku and Vegeta.
Trunks and Goten can often be just kids and dont carry the pressure of being the ones on whos shoulders the well being of the world rests.
Excluding the Gotenks vs Buu part of dbz.

Goten and Trunks going ssj so easily could have to do with the lvl their fathers were at when Trunks/Goten were conceived (power wise/ssj wise/near ssj wise). So I dont necessarily consider that a sign from Trunks/Goten for being talented.

Pan just started flying yet Goten needed to be taught by Gohan.
If anything Pan has shown more natural talent.

Trunks and Goten could go and experienced up to ssj3 as fusion yet havent even managed ssj2 as individuals.
Sorry but I am not impressed by them.

Also as explained for me normal Trunks talent does not necessarily equal future Trunks. They are different versions of Trunks.
Not just age only imo.
 
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