[Discussion] Gorosei and Chief Kong

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So what I'm guessing is that the Cipher pol including the warlords take direct orders from the Goroseis while Chief kong has fleet admiral, admirals, and vice admirals under his control.

Why would the Gorosei be in charge of a weak division like cipher pol?
 
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So does akainu have to report to kong first or does he have the authority to just go to the gorosei whenever he wants?
As we seen in the manga, fleet admiral Akainu can go to the Gorosei whenever he pleases and scold a higher rank on a separate division.
When former fleet admiral Sengoku and higher ranking Vice admiral (still orders admirals) Garp were to retire from the navy they answered to chief kong and not the Gorosei.

The Cipher Pol certainly aren't weak. There are at least 10 divisions of them, and they have hype, scaring the likes of Robin and Law.
The CP-0 brought Law and Robin into concern. The rest of the cipher pol wouldn't make it up to Vice admiral level. They're weak
 
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Gorosei can give order to everyone. That inclues Kong and Akainu. They can give orders to CP0 as well but CP0 also takes orders from the Tenryubitto. Any order from the CDs are absolute. Akainu was just pissed and out of line which is why the Gorosei kept telling Akainu to watch his tone and called him a insolent brat.
 
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Gorosei can give order to everyone. That inclues Kong and Akainu. They can give orders to CP0 as well but CP0 also takes orders from the Tenryubitto. Any order from the CDs are absolute. Akainu was just pissed and out of line which is why the Gorosei kept telling Akainu to watch his tone and called him a insolent brat.
Well I said direct orders, its who they answer to. The Gorosei can say what they want but that won't stop a fleet admiral from barking at them. Gorosei are on a higher rank than the fleet admirals, so of course they can make their say.
Chief Kong taking orders from the Gorosei is highly unlikely, they hold the same rank on a different unit.
It's like saying CP-2 telling a rear admiral what to do.


How do you know this for a fact
Because I read the Ennies Lobby arc
And The gorosei were titled the head of the government, the highest of the pecking order

And chief kong is supreme highest military leader
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The Gorosei are the worlds highest political power:
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Nowhere was it stated that they were the highest pecking order, especially when Doffy is calling the shots behind their backs.
 
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As we seen in the manga, fleet admiral Akainu can go to the Gorosei whenever he pleases and scold a higher rank on a separate division.
When former fleet admiral Sengoku and higher ranking Vice admiral (still orders admirals) Garp were to retire from the navy they answered to chief kong and not the Gorosei.



The CP-0 brought Law and Robin into concern. The rest of the cipher pol wouldn't make it up to Vice admiral level. They're weak
You say this with absolutely no basis.
 

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Gorosei can give order to everyone. That inclues Kong and Akainu. They can give orders to CP0 as well but CP0 also takes orders from the Tenryubitto. Any order from the CDs are absolute. Akainu was just pissed and out of line which is why the Gorosei kept telling Akainu to watch his tone and called him a insolent brat.
This is correct
 

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So what I'm guessing is that the Cipher pol including the warlords take direct orders from the Goroseis while Chief kong has fleet admiral, admirals, and vice admirals under his control.

Why would the Gorosei be in charge of a weak division like cipher pol?
well the answer is, theyre not weak..CP- 0 is supposed to be the elite of the elite. for all we konw they can be admiral level.
but since we haven't seen their capabilities, all we know is they are strong and the best at doing what cipher pol does..
theyre probably under their direct command because of how strong they are and obviously them working in the shadows and collecting intelligence benefits the gorosei as well
 
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Also, i'm not seeing the scolding in this scan.

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well the answer is, theyre not weak..CP- 0 is supposed to be the elite of the elite. for all we konw they can be admiral level.
but since we haven't seen their capabilities, all we know is they are strong and the best at doing what cipher pol does..
theyre probably under their direct command because of how strong they are and obviously them working in the shadows and collecting intelligence benefits the gorosei as well
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I see what you mean but what about the other cipher pol 1-9?

You say this with absolutely no basis.
Ironic, but it's clear that you didn't read the scans I posted throughout the replies
 

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I think if we analyze the power structure of OP without the Terriboyo it would make it easier. Cuz they are basically the constant in any situation. What they say rules over all things. If one of the T tells a CP0 to kill one of the Gorosei then no one is to interfere in the decision, doesnt matter what level of government they have or what they think, unless its another T. So including them in the power structure just adds some confusion that can be eliminated. the T (CD) are supreme commander over everything that is done in WG there word trumps all others period. So saying CP0 takes orders from CD is redundant cuz everyone does. They must also take orders from Gorosei or Kong, unless they are there own arm of the WG, which it doesnt seem so since they have been taking orders from Gorosei or CD.

OT: I think Kong is parallel to Gorosei when it comes to the chain of command. What makes a big diff is that everyone has basically the same agenda so there is no need for real friction to occur between arms of the WG. But you can see that Akainu doesnt see them as his direct boss due to the way he talks to them, but does see them as superiors by basically still carrying out their orders.

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