Gold and Silver vs Pein

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Location: Destroyed Konoha.

Conditions: Bashosen has Edo Hiruzen element feats. Brothers have V1/V2 Naruto feats (along with theirs).
 

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I actually know nothing about them. Hopefully someone will educate me.
 

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Practically nobody does. So Im expected to debate for the brothers when I see arguments.
 

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Gold and Silver Bros. Doesn't take a genius to know that Pains most used word is "Pain" lol. And since all the paths are connected (they are all one), it would mean they all get sealed at once I believe.
 

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Chibaku tensei casually low diffs
 

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guy who took down konoha, + sm naruto, + jiraiya + kakashi + lead the akatsuki is well above the clowns who got a reality check from darui
 

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the duo of human path & preta path win
 
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I can debate you on this one if you want...:coffee:
 

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Gold and Silver would be my bet in the manga. But, not enough showcasing to have a debate about them.
 

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Gold and Silver Brothers win this if Chibaku Tensei is restricted.
 

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Pain stomps. CT and CST are completely unnecessary.
 

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Seeing how Gold and Silver only have fractions presumably smaller than Naruto's half of Kurama, I find it vary unlikely that they would stand a chance against even Deva Path alone who lasted and almost singlehandedly captured Naruto in his jinchuruuki form had he not been overwhelmed by the bijuu's massive power. Let's reduce this to a simple equation to help understand the situation a little more: Naruto + 2/4 Kurama vs Deva Path = Naruto Wins. Gold and Silver + 1/4 Kurama vs Six Paths of Pein = Six Paths of Pein Win. There are the benefit of the Sage of Six Paths ninja tools, but I doubt that would effect a rinnegan user, or even dead corpse being manipulated by divided chakra.

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Gold and Silver Brothers win this if Chibaku Tensei is restricted.

I can debate with you on this one, because Outer path and Preta path beg to differ. Unless these two knuckleheads ( Gold and Silver ) are smart enough to take down Outer path in order to gain an advantage, their attempts are inferior against Preta path's power to absorb their chakra, Animal path's power to summon gigantic animals (( distinctively the two headed dog)), and Outer path's ability to resurrect any fallen allies. Gold and silver would most likely be reduced to taijutsu in which they show no major feats. The two most useless paths would be Human path and Asura path, because Asura path would be overwhelmed by the brute chakra force of Gold and Silver, and Human path is generally useless in my opinion.
 
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Pain stomps. CT and CST are completely unnecessary.

Really? Deva got overpowered by a v2 Naruto. Two v2 Naruto's would completely demolish Deva. The rest of the paths are nothing, bar preta who can easily be defeated with a coordinated attack.

I can debate with you on this one, because Asura path and Preta path beg to differ. Unless these two knuckleheads are smart enough to take down both Preta path in order to gain an advantage, their attempts are inferior against Asura path's power to absorb their chakra, Animal path's power to summon gigantic animals (( distinctively the two headed dog)), and Preta patgh's ability to resurrect any fallen allies.

That will obviously be their main goal. Kin and Gin showed high levels of intelligence in their fight. And Asura can't absorb chakra, the giant animals get one shotted by Bashosen, the 2 headed dog isn't going to do anything to the brothers either. They can't kill him but he also can't hurt them or keep up with their speed in their v1 and 2 forms. Preta can't resurrect either, Naraka can. Naraka is a very easy target for the brothers.
 
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That will obviously be their main goal. Kin and Gin showed high levels of intelligence in their fight. And Asura can't absorb chakra, the giant animals get one shotted by Bashosen, the 2 headed dog isn't going to do anything to the brothers either. They can't kill him but he also can't hurt them or keep up with their speed in their v1 and 2 forms. Preta can't resurrect either, Naraka can. Naraka is a very easy target for the brothers.

Please forgive me, I had to make a few changes to my post because somethings were incorrect. I was a little confused about the names of certain paths and had to research them, but I stand by my debate. I'll have to rethink the part about their intelligence, you may be correct about that. I just saw them as generally idiots who got their hands on power. As for how easy you thought it would be for them to defeat each path, your arguments are a little weak. The six paths of pain generally have a strong defense, simply because opponents can't use chakra based attacks to penetrate their defenses. This is do to Preta path's ability to absorb any form of chakra based attack, ( excluding genjutsu, which Gold and Silver show no current feats at ) which forces opponents to use taijutsu based attacks. This is a big no when it comes to the Six Paths of Pain, since the 6 of them are visually linked and can predict and counter any form of taijutsu based attacks attempted toward them. While i'm sure you mean well when you say Animal Paths summonings aren't much of a problem for Gold and Silver, I'd like to think that a few giant animals would work as a great distraction ( especially the two headed dog, who would attack relentlessly without defeat ) while the Pains try to subdue the two of them and take the nine tails chakra. Assuming Gold and Silver have their priorities straight, they would use their advantageous speed to bypass the animal summonings and strike the Pains directly. But again, Pain's defense is far more superior than anything they could perform. Next time, try considering the many advantages, including number and power, the Pain's have over Gold and Silver before deciding an answer and just sticking to it. I don't want to be a hypocrite, so i'm going to try arguing in Gold and Silver's favor.

-Animal Path: Not very important, may be a casualty that is revived by Naraka path

-Naraka Path: easy target, however protected from ninjutsu by Preta path

-Preta Path: Targeted for major contribution to group, yet counters ninjutsu and visual link easily counters taijutsu. Cannot be overwhelmed by jinchuuruki form chakra based taijutsu, as protected by his own abilities.

-Human Path: Not very important, may be a casualty that is revived by Naraka path

-Asura Path: Not very important, might work as a distraction. Revived by Naraka path if destroyed.
Really? Deva got overpowered by a v2 Naruto. Two v2 Naruto's would completely demolish Deva. The rest of the paths are nothing, bar preta who can easily be defeated with a coordinated attack.

This only goes along with my equation above, because your chances of beating Deva Path using Kurama's chakra only depends on the mount of Kurama's chakra you have. Naruto + 2/4 Kurama vs Deva Path = Naruto Wins. Gold and Silver + 1/4 Kurama vs Six Paths of Pein = Six Paths of Pein Win. Deva Path would have had a chance of defeating Naruto in jinchuruuki mode, however Naruto is a full fledged junchuuruki and continued to become more and more powerful. Gold and Silver are only mock jinchuuruki's and don't possess Naruto's ability to continuously grow tails and keep a large stream of power coming. Lets use Percentage as another example. Naruto (4 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 50% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 4 tails ): Deva path takes the other 50% chance. Naruto (6 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 50% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 6 tails ): Deva path takes the other 50% chance of winning. Naruto (8 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 90% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 6 tails ): Deva takes the other 10% chance of winning. Gold and Silver (1/4 of Kurama's chakra, 4 tails) vs Deva Path: G and S has a 25% chance of winning. Deva Path vs Gold and Silver (1/4 of Kurama's chakra, 4 tails): Deva path has a 75% chance of winning. I think i'll call this Naruology: The study of Naruto; Algebra and Statistics.
 
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Pain wins this mid diff.
 

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Gold and Silver Bros. Doesn't take a genius to know that Pains most used word is "Pain" lol. And since all the paths are connected (they are all one), it would mean they all get sealed at once I believe.

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Gold and Silver take this with the possibility that they have stronger techniques then the canon ones given and portrayed in anime. Maybe we were given a rudimentary glimpse of the two brothers, but since this sin't likely, I'd sooner say Pain takes this.
 

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Please forgive me, I had to make a few changes to my post because somethings were incorrect. I was a little confused about the names of certain paths and had to research them, but I stand by my debate. I'll have to rethink the part about their intelligence, you may be correct about that. I just saw them as generally idiots who got their hands on power. As for how easy you thought it would be for them to defeat each path, your arguments are a little weak. The six paths of pain generally have a strong defense, simply because opponents can't use chakra based attacks to penetrate their defenses. This is do to Preta path's ability to absorb any form of chakra based attack, ( excluding genjutsu, which Gold and Silver show no current feats at ) which forces opponents to use taijutsu based attacks. This is a big no when it comes to the Six Paths of Pain, since the 6 of them are visually linked and can predict and counter any form of taijutsu based attacks attempted toward them. While i'm sure you mean well when you say Animal Paths summonings aren't much of a problem for Gold and Silver, I'd like to think that a few giant animals would work as a great distraction ( especially the two headed dog, who would attack relentlessly without defeat ) while the Pains try to subdue the two of them and take the nine tails chakra. Assuming Gold and Silver have their priorities straight, they would use their advantageous speed to bypass the animal summonings and strike the Pains directly. But again, Pain's defense is far more superior than anything they could perform. Next time, try considering the many advantages, including number and power, the Pain's have over Gold and Silver before deciding an answer and just sticking to it. I don't want to be a hypocrite, so i'm going to try arguing in Gold and Silver's favor.

-Animal Path: Not very important, may be a casualty that is revived by Naraka path

-Naraka Path: easy target, however protected from ninjutsu by Preta path

-Preta Path: Targeted for major contribution to group, yet counters ninjutsu and visual link easily counters taijutsu. Cannot be overwhelmed by jinchuuruki form chakra based taijutsu, as protected by his own abilities.

-Human Path: Not very important, may be a casualty that is revived by Naraka path

-Asura Path: Not very important, might work as a distraction. Revived by Naraka path if destroyed.

You keep coming at me with these "Kin and Gin" can't bypass the Pain defence, but how exactly do Pain bypass 2 v2 Kyuubi Jins with Naruto's v2 feats. Do note that means they can defend against Orochimaru's Kusanagi's sharpness and the ability to reflect deva's Shinra Tensei by holding their ground. There is literally no way for them to be defeated given their ability to grow up to 8 tails, making them practically untouchable to any of the Pains bar preta.

This only goes along with my equation above, because your chances of beating Deva Path using Kurama's chakra only depends on the mount of Kurama's chakra you have. Naruto + 2/4 Kurama vs Deva Path = Naruto Wins. Gold and Silver + 1/4 Kurama vs Six Paths of Pein = Six Paths of Pein Win. Deva Path would have had a chance of defeating Naruto in jinchuruuki mode, however Naruto is a full fledged junchuuruki and continued to become more and more powerful. Gold and Silver are only mock jinchuuruki's and don't possess Naruto's ability to continuously grow tails and keep a large stream of power coming. Lets use Percentage as another example. Naruto (4 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 50% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 4 tails ): Deva path takes the other 50% chance. Naruto (6 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 50% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 6 tails ): Deva path takes the other 50% chance of winning. Naruto (8 tails ) vs Deva Path: Naruto has a 90% of winning. Deva Path vs Naruto ( 6 tails ): Deva takes the other 10% chance of winning. Gold and Silver (1/4 of Kurama's chakra, 4 tails) vs Deva Path: G and S has a 25% chance of winning. Deva Path vs Gold and Silver (1/4 of Kurama's chakra, 4 tails): Deva path has a 75% chance of winning. I think i'll call this Naruology: The study of Naruto; Algebra and Statistics.

You don't understand. Your little equations hold no relevance at all. OP gave Kin and Gin Naruto's v2 feats. End of story. So all your "narulogy' or whatever you are calling it goes out the window. Kin and Gin are basically 2 v2 Naruto's, which is the main reason they win.
 
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