[Discussion] Gol D Roger vs Akainu and Blackbeard
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I say low high dif, Akainu is most likely stronger now and pre TS he almost defeated WB, put a Yonko with two of the most OP fruits in the OPV and ... Well you can infer from that
Actually you are severely underestimating the Fleet Admiral of the Marines, the most powerful military in the OPV and one of the 4 Yonko in the Golden Age of Piracy
Old Whitebeard is stronger than Akainu(High difficulty)
It means Prime Whitebeard can win against Akainu with mid difficulty and considering Roger is at least as strong as prime Whitebeard if not stronger, it means he can defeat Akainu mid difficulty at most and i consider Akainu stronger than Blackbeard. Because they are fighting in duo though it would be more difficult due to combinations. To be safe overall i'd give the win to Roger with around high-extreme difficulty
It means Prime Whitebeard can win against Akainu with mid difficulty and considering Roger is at least as strong as prime Whitebeard if not stronger, it means he can defeat Akainu mid difficulty at most and i consider Akainu stronger than Blackbeard. Because they are fighting in duo though it would be more difficult due to combinations. To be safe overall i'd give the win to Roger with around high-extreme difficulty
Underrating? We know nothing about Roger's abilities/fighting style, we can say that you're overrating him. IMO Prime Roger can't mid-diff. 2 people that are in mid./high admiral tier (BB/Yonko). If Prime Roger was facing 2 people that are at the bottom of admiral tier (Marco/Benn Beckman), then it's possible for him to mid-diff. them at the same time.
Joseph Gomes
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Lol. Roger pimp slaps these 2 kids to oblivion. Old Whitebeard kicked Akainu's ass like a boss. Prime Whitebeard could low diff Akainu. Unless there's a retarded power up for Akainu in the time skip (Akainu was already in his prime during the war), he's a bug in front of Roger. Whitebeard didn't even take the admirals seriously. Roger > Whitebeard
Blackbeard is strong and all but still the PIRATE KING can't be beaten by a mere yonko. Yonko are strong but Gol D Roger is on his own level
There are only 3 PK level character as of now- Prime Roger, Prime WB and Prime Garp. Yonko are
No, you are the one underestimating here. The difference between the captain and his first mate has always shown to be massive. Silver Rayleigh at an extremely old age was capable of fighting Kizaru on par, and claimed he could help Luffy whilst fighting Kizaru had he been younger [
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], suggesting superiority to a marine admiral. Now Akainu is not that much stronger than Kizaru, he's probably on par with a prime Rayleigh. Roger himself, should be far far superior to his first mate, thus far far superior to Akainu. Adding in Blackbeard, shouldn't make that much of a difference imo, by portrayal and hype. Hell, Sengoku hinted at the fact that WB has the potential to defeat them all at Marineford, and is plausible had he not been so old and gotten betrayed. Roger not being able to do the same to two slightly above Admiral levels is fallacious.
Joseph Gomes
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Whitebeard received multiple injuries, and a major stabbing from his own ally. Old Whitebeard without injuries would definitely pawn Akainu. Akainu barely survived\
BTW this is about Prime Gold Roger, the strongest guy in One Piece. Akainu has nothing on Prime Roger
Joseph Gomes
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From hype, yes
If sengoku didn't stop garp during the war, Akainu would probably be dead by now
Prime Roger had at least 2 equals, Garp and WB, Someone like Sengoku could prob push him to high-extreme dif
It only makes sense for there to be at least one character as strong as Roger today, by their side by side portrayal that's Dragon if not more, closely followed by Shanks, Kaido, Akainu, Mihawk ...
Oda isn't an idiot he won't make Roger a god noone can touch, to make the story work you need chatacters that can push him very, very far
Roger, Garp and WB aren't less than high difing an Admiral
Joseph Gomes
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I respectfully disagree, I can't argue much more than I'm doing right now because we have no feats from Roger. Hypewise Roger stomps Akainu. And what makes you think Akainu is as strong as sengoku? Imo Zephyr was stronger than Akainu as well
And there's no reason to think anybody in OPverse is as strong as Prime Roger right now. Dragon is probably the strongest guy, still his hype is lower than the Pirate King
It's hard to have arguments without much feats to show, empty statements are what we have at the moment
So there just happened to be 3 Pirates stronger than any Marine? If that were true it'd be worse power scaling than DB(Z)
This isn't Naruto where everyone from the old generation foderrizes everyone new, except the reincarnations of old characters ... and Gai for some reason :/ ... OP actually has a sensible power scaling
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Not only Garp needed Sengoku's help to subdue Shiki after a long battle that destroyed half marineford, but Buggy said only Whitebeard could equal Roger. Not to mention old and sick whitebeard was the strongest man in the world infront of Garp(so let alone Prime Whitebeard). If even after all this, you can't understand that prime Garp was below Roger, then i'm not sure what to say anymore. Just deal with it :/ In that era there weren't many pirates. It's only after Roger died that the era of piracy started. Marines had the superior forces when pirates had the superior individual
Oh how many times those arguments were posted ... just think what you want, if you ppl believe Roger can low dif an Admiral it's none of my business really, I'll just sit quietly back and have a good Laugh
Picard out
Depends on the admiral, but the lowest admiral seen so far could push Roger to mid difficulty that's for sure. Never said he would low diff one. If anyone can low diff an admiral in my spectrum it's likely End of serie Blackbeard/Luffy