Going back to the Same old shit?

[KingHashirama]

So are we all now going back to the same old sh*t in regards to Madara having Hashirama's powers?


Before:

Fans: Edo Madara > Hashirama , because he has all of Hashirama's base abilities and can use mokuton on the same level, so Hashirama doesn't stand a chance.

Manga: Hashirama restrains the same Madara in his base form, and showing his mokuton abilities are still superior to that of Madara's. So then shitting on the fan made assumption of Madara having Hashirama's base mokuton power on the same level.


Now:

Fans: Madara has all of Hashirama's powers with SM and Mokuton, Madara even has the buddha.

Manga: TBH


But are we all gonna go back to this same old logic that just because Madara has part of Hashirama's powers.. he is automatically able to utilize all of his powers and be superior with Mokuton? Are we all going back to this logic, when the manga doesn't say sh*t about Madara having all of Hashirama's power?

Now i didn't create the thread cause I'm mad or something, I simply created it so people won't be hurt (those who were hurt and were complaining about Madara being restrained was a troll) IF Madara doesn't have all of Hashirama's powers and ends up being defeated by Hashirama.

If someone is mad over this thread.. then you have problems.. if you are gonna complain about the thread.. you are seriously wasting your time.

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[Joon]

I going to complain.

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[deadp00l]

Madara black rods>Hashitrama

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara black rods>Hashitrama

That cool. .

Just like how Deathstroke takes a dump on Deadpool right? :Omg:

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara absolutely has the same level of mokuton as Hashi, he just doesn't know how to use it as well. Like giving a SSB player a character he's never used. It's the same character, but they don't know the techniques behind it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara absolutely has the same level of mokuton as Hashi, he just doesn't know how to use it as well. Like giving a SSB player a character he's never used. It's the same character, but they don't know the techniques behind it.

@bold, has no proof in the manga

He doesn't have Hashirama's chakras... even in base.. hence its not the same level of Mokuton. He can't control it like Hashirama , hence its not on the same level. Hashirama makes his own techniques.. Madara copies Hashirama.. hence not on Hashirama's level.....

Difference is too vast.

Its like claiming that Madara has Rikudou's mastery over the rinnegan. Original will always be the stronger one.

 

[The Necromancer]

@bold, has no proof in the manga

He doesn't have Hashirama's chakras... even in base.. hence its not the same level of Mokuton. He can't control it like Hashirama , hence its not on the same level. Hashirama makes his own techniques.. Madara copies Hashirama.. hence not on Hashirama's level.....

Difference is too vast.

Its like claiming that Madara has Rikudou's mastery over the rinnegan. Original will always be the stronger one.

Show me a scan of Madara's DFE being any smaller than Hashi's or Madara's Wood Dragon being any smaller or less effective than Hashi's.

If anything, Madara's Wood Dragon is larger than Hashi's here.

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Is kakashi's water vortex and dragon smaller than Zabuza's? Is Itachi's water dragon smaller than Kabuto's? Just because you're copying, doesn't mean you're worse. Madara has all the necessary tools to use any of Hashi's jutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

Show me a scan of Madara's DFE being any smaller than Hashi's or Madara's Wood Dragon being any smaller or less effective than Hashi's.

If anything, Madara's Wood Dragon is larger than Hashi's here.

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Is kakashi's water vortex and dragon smaller than Zabuza's? Is Itachi's water dragon smaller than Kabuto's? Just because you're copying, doesn't mean you're worse. Madara has all the necessary tools to use any of Hashi's jutsu.

@Bold, that made my laugh.

Comparing 2 different types of wood dragons.. nice...

Here is the problem are water style techs made by Zabuza? no.. they are already pre-existing techniques rofl. Are they KKGS? no.....

If anything at all, you have to compare the Rinnegan. By this Madara should have all of Rikudou's power of the rinnegan and be on his level , since he knows the rinnegan techs.


As I said Madara doesn't have the power and amount of Hashirama's chakra, the chakra used for Mokuton.

 

[Naijakid]

Madara black rods>Hashitrama

Mokujin>>Edo Madara XD

 

[Lightbringer]

@Bold, that made my laugh.

Comparing 2 different types of wood dragons.. nice...

Here is the problem are water style techs made by Zabuza? no.. they are already pre-existing techniques rofl. Are they KKGS? no.....

If anything at all, you have to compare the Rinnegan. By this Madara should have all of Rikudou's power of the rinnegan and be on his level , since he knows the rinnegan techs.


As I said Madara doesn't have the power and amount of Hashirama's chakra, the chakra used for Mokuton.

@bold, where did it ever say that Hashirama has more chakra than Madara?

seriously post me a scan

and can you show me where it exactly the comparison for Hashirama's mokuton being greater than Madara's?

So far both Madara and Hashirama have had the same exact Mokuton Dragon

Madara was able to use Flower Tree World which Tsunade claims was just like Hashirama's

Where is the difference? Please, I want you to show me this in the manga.

 

[KingHashirama]

@bold, where did it ever say that Hashirama has more chakra than Madara?
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So are you saying Madara has Rikudou's base chakra??? Hashirama as a Senju and Mokuton user already has the superior chakra, if anything the burden of proof relies on you not me. Nice try though.

Hashirama made a wood dragon different and same as 1 madara made. so Hashirama is superior there

Madara used flower tree world.. 1 technique.. so what??

Can Madara convert his hands into wood? Can he create hands the size of a mountain? I don't think so.....

 

[Lightbringer]

So are you saying Madara has Rikudou's base chakra??? Hashirama as a Senju and Mokuton user already has the superior chakra, if anything the burden of proof relies on you not me. Nice try though.

Hashirama made a wood dragon different and same as 1 madara made. so Hashirama is superior there

Madara used flower tree world.. 1 technique.. so what??

Can Madara convert his hands into wood? Can he create hands the size of a mountain? I don't think so.....

Madara was able to perfectly replicate Hashirama's signature techs.....

I don't know where I said that Madara has Rikudou base chakra, cause I didn't

and again, show me a scan proving that Hashirama has more chakra than Madara

otherwise you have no argument

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara absolutely has the same level of mokuton as Hashi, he just doesn't know how to use it as well. Like giving a SSB player a character he's never used. It's the same character, but they don't know the techniques behind it.

Super smash brothers?
West coast di?

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara was able to perfectly replicate Hashirama's signature techs.....

I don't know where I said that Madara has Rikudou base chakra, cause I didn't

and again, show me a scan proving that Hashirama has more chakra than Madara

otherwise you have no argument

So now I also have to prove Rikudou has more chakra than Madara if i claim that?

Madara himself commented on Hashirama's chakra being enormous , Hashirama's chakra was compared to that of the full Kyuubi. Has Madara's? No... As I said burden of proof is on you not on me. If you are arguing about this, because your character Madara is inferior in it and you don't want to admit it.... then don't bother continuing.

Signature techs? And how exactly are they signature techs? Because he has shown them once when he needed them?

 

[-Sky-]

Of course Madara is better than Hashirama -____-

 

[Booker]

That cool. .

Just like how Deathstroke takes a dump on Deadpool right? :Omg:

@bold

'Tis the truth.

 

[KingHashirama]

Of course Madara is better than Hashirama -____-

Senju > Uchiha.

 

[Trollasaur]

Senju > Uchiha.

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[-Sky-]

Senju > Uchiha.

Uchiha > Senju

 

[KingHashirama]

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Obito without Senju blood:

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