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Since there aren't many mysteries left in the manga, I decided to make this thread as a reflection of all the past popular theories that turned out debunked. The theories that made so much sense then but looking but you're like "Dafuq was wrong with us?"

My favorite past theory: The Yondaime is the Akatsuki Leader.

Anyone remember this? It was years ago, before Shippuden even became animated, so like 2006 I believe. All over the internet, this was a booming theory. We didn't even know his name yet, so Minato was simply called "Yondaime".

Then this fake pic came out and all the non-manga readers fell for it:

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I won't lie, I did too lol

So NB, what are the craziest theories you have fallen for in the past?
 

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That's something hahha

A good way that could have actually had plause is if

while Jiraiya was traveling and training Naruto , He could have been reminded of Minato and Yahiko..

Since Yahiko and Minato and Naruto resemble eachother enough where if Jairaiya had flashbacks or thoughts

and memories about a kid Yahiko, people could have though that was Minato since he also looks similar to Naruto.
 

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Since there aren't many mysteries left in the manga, I decided to make this thread as a reflection of all the past popular theories that turned out debunked. The theories that made so much sense then but looking but you're like "Dafuq was wrong with us?"

My favorite past theory: The Yondaime is the Akatsuki Leader.

Anyone remember this? It was years ago, before Shippuden even became animated, so like 2006 I believe. All over the internet, this was a booming theory. We didn't even know his name yet, so Minato was simply called "Yondaime".

Then this fake pic came out and all the non-manga readers fell for it:

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I won't lie, I did too lol

So NB, what are the craziest theories you have fallen for in the past?
i remember reading that theory in 2006
 

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Wait a second......
Tsunade has the FTG.... didn't fall for it.....

Or Tsunade isn't a Senju......... :sy:
...........I must have missed this one lmaoo


That's something hahha

A good way that could have actually had plause is if

while Jiraiya was traveling and training Naruto , He could have been reminded of Minato and Yahiko..

Since Yahiko and Minato and Naruto resemble eachother enough where if Jairaiya had flashbacks or thoughts

and memories about a kid Yahiko, people could have though that was Minato since he also looks similar to Naruto.
Yea but this was before Yahiko was even introduced. I think the main basis behind it was the spiky hair tho lol
 

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Wait a second......
Tsunade has the FTG.... didn't fall for it.....

Or Tsunade isn't a Senju......... :sy:
why on earth?? I didn't even know about that one ... kinda I guess
i remember reading that theory in 2006
what did ya think of it? you're lying lol
...........I must have missed this one lmaoo




Yea but this was before Yahiko was even introduced. I think the main basis behind it was the spiky hair tho lol
I think it was the hair too though hahah ironically they were all past students of jiraiya afterall Lol
 
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why on earth?? I didn't even know about that one ... kinda I guess

what did ya think of it? you're lying lol


I think it was the hair too though hahah ironically they were all past students of jiraiya afterall Lol
I can't find the Senju one... Musta been deleted......
here.....
 
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i remember reading that theory in 2006
Yep. I remember the year cuz I was in middle school lol Can you think of anymore theories or popular predictions from back then?

Another theory, I didn't believe this one but, the whole "Tobi is Kagami" thing. I wonder if those ppl have finally accepted how silly that one was :sy:

I can't find the Senju one... Musta been deleted......
here.....
O....M...G....HAHAHAHA!!! I can't believe I missed this! Over 300 replies? Damn that musta been good
 

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I remember some tengu god theory
The one where itachi is reviving the tengu?? I loved that one. Haha

This one?
Hyuuga clan is the one of the oldest clans in konoha. they have ever since the establishment of the Hidden Village. Many years ago there was a girl from hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. she decided to marry herself to the younh man despite the strong protests from her own clan. but this man was no ordinary human. in fact, this man was not human at all. his name was sojobo. he was the king of tengu.

There two types of tengus, karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with a beak and wings) and konoha tengu (also known as yamabushi tengu). sojobo was a konoha tengu. he had long nose white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. as the king of tengu, sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. he carried a fan made of fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as tengu no uchiwa or tengus fan)/ he could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another he could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them madness. besides, sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. he sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

Konoha Tengu

Anyway, this girl from hyuuga was in love with sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. she married him shortly after they met each other. a year or two later, she was pregnanat and gave birth to their son. sojobo named this son uchiha, uchiha madara, after uchiwa which means fan. and of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan

Everything was good. uchiha madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. he not only inherited the kekkei gankai from his mother but with the tengu blood inside him the byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form- the sharingan! this new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal sharingan and mangekyou sharingan! like his tengu father, madara possessed some incredible magical powers. he was able to use telepathy to invade peoples minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. when he turned on the mangekyou sharingan (he had the normal sharingan on 24/7 just like his hyuuga kin) the eyes would further intensify his power and bring him even closer to a tengu form. he had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely tsukiyomi (to control peoples mind and drive them insane). amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension) and susanoo (to create a storm like that created by tengus fan)

Because of his bravery and almost unparalleled powersm madara soon became a hero in his peoples eyes despite his young age. he become very close friends with the 1st hokage and together they took up the responsibility to protect konoha village they established. madara founded the first police force in the konoha and swore to protect his people with his life

But Good things do not last long. as madara was about to reach his adulthood, sojobo began to reveal his truen intention. sojobo didnt marry the girl from hyuuga out of love. he was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. he was planning on taking over madaras body once he reached his adulthood. it didnt take uchiha madara long to find out this appalling truth. he felt a mixture of shock and anger. he felt he was being used but he wasnt going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. but madara knew only too well that no matter how strong he was stood no chance against the king of tengu. out of desperation he sought for the legendary bijuu-kyuubi (the god of fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by madaras abilities. a secret pact was made and kyuugi agreed to lend his power and cakra to uchiha madara. soon madara master katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and nights after performing the amaterasu. but even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the kyuubi, uchiha madara was only able to beat his demon father by a hair breath. he couldnt finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. however the seal he used was very special one. to break the seal it requited the kyuubis chakra and also not one but 3 uchiha members who can wield the magekyou sharingan. each MS user has to cast a different MS justsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus-Tsukiyomi, amaterasu and sunsanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed. its tall order and madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity. but what madara didnt anticipate was that his seal itself would bring bloodly massacre upon his own clan many decades later...

Here I will derail a bit and talk about the relationship between shodaime and madara. when shodai found out about the secret pact between madara and kyuubi he was enraged. he thought it was hunger for greater power that led his best friend to the kyuubi. madara didnt explain to him either because he didnt want anyone to know he was a half demon. conflicts began to appear between the two who were once close to each other. the tense hostility eventually resulted in a great battle at the valley of the end (you might think that i depicted madara as too strong character and therefore feel skeptical about shodai being able to rival both MS and kyuubis power at the same time. welll you better not forget that shodai (first hokage) had the ability to suppress kyuubis chakra and his darkness jutsu and suiton might be very good counter moves to madaras sharingan and katon respectively as well. many years had come into past sojobo was sealed. the tengus blood in uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. it was gradually being ''diluted'' by constant marriages with non uchihas over the generations. now even the normal sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among uchihas, let alone the mangekyou sharingan. but the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. a tengu shrine was built underneath the nakano temple by some of the early uchihas keep all the secrets of the clan inside {including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later uchiha} once an uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it woould then become his life long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. the uchihas considered this dark history as an unspeakable shame and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened. 20 years ago, a new member was born into an uchiha family. he soon proved himself to be prodigy, even by the high standards of the uchiha. he graduated at the top of his class at age 7, mastered the sharingan at the age of 8, become a chunin at 10 and angu squad leader at 13. his name was uchiha itachi. as itachi was selected to become an anbu his father fugaku felt that it was the right time to tell him everything. itachi learned about mangekyou sharingan and the origin of his clan from his father deep inside his mind was an evil shadow began to take shape. one night when all men of uchiha were supposed to gather at the secret meeting place two of them were absent. itachi lured his best friend uchiha shisui to the nakano river and started his horrendous plan. he assaulted and killed uchiha shisui on that night and obtained the accured eye powers-mangekyou sharingan from the death of his friend. the next day when people found uchiha shisui body they also found a suicide note grabbed in his hand. but of course this note wasnt really written by shisu. itachi forged
his handwriting with the sharingan to make it look like suicide. what was written on the note is important because it reflects itachis feeling at that time. always living with fear-fear that people may find out the secrets of their clan fear that people may know uchihas are actually descendants of demons-they all swore to take the secrets with them to the graveyard. this was the miserable life of every uchiha memeber. itachi was tired of all these. he could see no future for his clan. he didnt understand why his people felt ashamed of their own past. he didnt understand why his people didnt see their superiority to the normal human beings. he didnt understand why his people decided to seal up such great power and not to use it. itachi had lost all his hope for the uchiha clan because of the pathetic ''path'' they had choosen

from the moment itachi heard about the origin of his clan he felt a weird sense of pleasure and superiority, he felt he was somehow more special than the others. then his sick and twisted mind had gone even further. he wanted to set the tengu free. he was willing to sacrifice his body in exchange for probably the strongest power the world had ever seen. he was ready to offer his body to the tengu king.

soon itachi had put his thoughts into action. when he learned about the akatsukis plan to capture bijuus he decided to join them. he needed their help to get the kyuubis chakra. but thats not all. itachi still had to find another 2 MS users. after awhile he came across a second MS user who agreed to help him carry out his plan. now all he needed was trhe third and last MS user.

itachi knew his clan members would never kill their loved ones to get MS, He despised them. they were a bunc of cowards, useless, oh wait itachi suddenly came up with an idea-he could still use them to archieve his purpose. he could use them to make his little brother the thrid MS user.
 
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The one where itachi is reviving the tengu?? I loved that one. Haha

This one?
Hyuuga clan is the one of the oldest clans in konoha. they have ever since the establishment of the Hidden Village. Many years ago there was a girl from hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. she decided to marry herself to the younh man despite the strong protests from her own clan. but this man was no ordinary human. in fact, this man was not human at all. his name was sojobo. he was the king of tengu.

There two types of tengus, karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with a beak and wings) and konoha tengu (also known as yamabushi tengu). sojobo was a konoha tengu. he had long nose white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. as the king of tengu, sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. he carried a fan made of fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as tengu no uchiwa or tengus fan)/ he could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another he could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them madness. besides, sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. he sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

Konoha Tengu

Anyway, this girl from hyuuga was in love with sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. she married him shortly after they met each other. a year or two later, she was pregnanat and gave birth to their son. sojobo named this son uchiha, uchiha madara, after uchiwa which means fan. and of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan

Everything was good. uchiha madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. he not only inherited the kekkei gankai from his mother but with the tengu blood inside him the byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form- the sharingan! this new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal sharingan and mangekyou sharingan! like his tengu father, madara possessed some incredible magical powers. he was able to use telepathy to invade peoples minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. when he turned on the mangekyou sharingan (he had the normal sharingan on 24/7 just like his hyuuga kin) the eyes would further intensify his power and bring him even closer to a tengu form. he had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely tsukiyomi (to control peoples mind and drive them insane). amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension) and susanoo (to create a storm like that created by tengus fan)

Because of his bravery and almost unparalleled powersm madara soon became a hero in his peoples eyes despite his young age. he become very close friends with the 1st hokage and together they took up the responsibility to protect konoha village they established. madara founded the first police force in the konoha and swore to protect his people with his life

But Good things do not last long. as madara was about to reach his adulthood, sojobo began to reveal his truen intention. sojobo didnt marry the girl from hyuuga out of love. he was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. he was planning on taking over madaras body once he reached his adulthood. it didnt take uchiha madara long to find out this appalling truth. he felt a mixture of shock and anger. he felt he was being used but he wasnt going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. but madara knew only too well that no matter how strong he was stood no chance against the king of tengu. out of desperation he sought for the legendary bijuu-kyuubi (the god of fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by madaras abilities. a secret pact was made and kyuugi agreed to lend his power and cakra to uchiha madara. soon madara master katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and nights after performing the amaterasu. but even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the kyuubi, uchiha madara was only able to beat his demon father by a hair breath. he couldnt finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. however the seal he used was very special one. to break the seal it requited the kyuubis chakra and also not one but 3 uchiha members who can wield the magekyou sharingan. each MS user has to cast a different MS justsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus-Tsukiyomi, amaterasu and sunsanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed. its tall order and madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity. but what madara didnt anticipate was that his seal itself would bring bloodly massacre upon his own clan many decades later...

Here I will derail a bit and talk about the relationship between shodaime and madara. when shodai found out about the secret pact between madara and kyuubi he was enraged. he thought it was hunger for greater power that led his best friend to the kyuubi. madara didnt explain to him either because he didnt want anyone to know he was a half demon. conflicts began to appear between the two who were once close to each other. the tense hostility eventually resulted in a great battle at the valley of the end (you might think that i depicted madara as too strong character and therefore feel skeptical about shodai being able to rival both MS and kyuubis power at the same time. welll you better not forget that shodai (first hokage) had the ability to suppress kyuubis chakra and his darkness jutsu and suiton might be very good counter moves to madaras sharingan and katon respectively as well. many years had come into past sojobo was sealed. the tengus blood in uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. it was gradually being ''diluted'' by constant marriages with non uchihas over the generations. now even the normal sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among uchihas, let alone the mangekyou sharingan. but the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. a tengu shrine was built underneath the nakano temple by some of the early uchihas keep all the secrets of the clan inside {including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later uchiha} once an uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it woould then become his life long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. the uchihas considered this dark history as an unspeakable shame and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened. 20 years ago, a new member was born into an uchiha family. he soon proved himself to be prodigy, even by the high standards of the uchiha. he graduated at the top of his class at age 7, mastered the sharingan at the age of 8, become a chunin at 10 and angu squad leader at 13. his name was uchiha itachi. as itachi was selected to become an anbu his father fugaku felt that it was the right time to tell him everything. itachi learned about mangekyou sharingan and the origin of his clan from his father deep inside his mind was an evil shadow began to take shape. one night when all men of uchiha were supposed to gather at the secret meeting place two of them were absent. itachi lured his best friend uchiha shisui to the nakano river and started his horrendous plan. he assaulted and killed uchiha shisui on that night and obtained the accured eye powers-mangekyou sharingan from the death of his friend. the next day when people found uchiha shisui body they also found a suicide note grabbed in his hand. but of course this note wasnt really written by shisu. itachi forged
his handwriting with the sharingan to make it look like suicide. what was written on the note is important because it reflects itachis feeling at that time. always living with fear-fear that people may find out the secrets of their clan fear that people may know uchihas are actually descendants of demons-they all swore to take the secrets with them to the graveyard. this was the miserable life of every uchiha memeber. itachi was tired of all these. he could see no future for his clan. he didnt understand why his people felt ashamed of their own past. he didnt understand why his people didnt see their superiority to the normal human beings. he didnt understand why his people decided to seal up such great power and not to use it. itachi had lost all his hope for the uchiha clan because of the pathetic ''path'' they had choosen

from the moment itachi heard about the origin of his clan he felt a weird sense of pleasure and superiority, he felt he was somehow more special than the others. then his sick and twisted mind had gone even further. he wanted to set the tengu free. he was willing to sacrifice his body in exchange for probably the strongest power the world had ever seen. he was ready to offer his body to the tengu king.

soon itachi had put his thoughts into action. when he learned about the akatsukis plan to capture bijuus he decided to join them. he needed their help to get the kyuubis chakra. but thats not all. itachi still had to find another 2 MS users. after awhile he came across a second MS user who agreed to help him carry out his plan. now all he needed was trhe third and last MS user.

itachi knew his clan members would never kill their loved ones to get MS, He despised them. they were a bunc of cowards, useless, oh wait itachi suddenly came up with an idea-he could still use them to archieve his purpose. he could use them to make his little brother the thrid MS user.
dafuq did I just read??
 

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My favorite is that Minato is Tsunade's and Jiraiya's son. Still unproven, but highly unlikely.
Sad thing is, this theory may never be put to rest :| it's unlikely we'll learn anymore about their family trees

I remember some tengu god theory
I don't bother reading theories that involve any kind of ancient history or mythology. Too complicated :T_T:

But a good theory I actually DO believe tho is the one by Mangekyo Muslim pertaining to the Byakugan and future Hyuuga development.
 

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I remember reading a theory that Yahiko/Pain was Naruto's older brother. It was mainly based off the resemblance of the two characters, and I could sort of see it, but I didn't fall for it. That would have needed a TON of explaining. lol
 
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