Genjutsu is highly overrated! Bee could beat itachi anyday!

[Draegod]

itachi doesn't like violence thats why he doesn't kill other shinobi that much. bee can't take out itachi becos tsukiyomi would probably work becos it only takes a sec to make you experience 3 days of hell and even if doesn't he has amaterasu and susano. if itachi was healthy all he has to do is use susano defend himself and use amaterasu once and bee is a goner remember how the hachibi was almost dead when sasuke used amaterasu on him and itachi's is stronger if you remember he created whole field of amaterasu when he fought against sasuke.

ok since you dont seem to get it yet ima tell you again...


amertatsu of any lv is useless agaisnst bee. he put on a act like he was being beat by the flames JUST TO ESCAPE from the village!

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at a slip second he can go to any part of the habachis body and no one but him would no! so amateratsu is useless like it is here now! fact that he can do it again!!! so dont bring up amateratsu again pls!

susanoo isnt a prob aswell, he will just out last it in v2 mode that was to fast and powerful that sameh couldnt even absord the power it had!!!

tsukuyomi isnt a prob when there are 2 minds and three set of chakra's! bee can get cought all he wants i dont care. what im saying is then the 8 tails will tag himself in and take care of itachi )think of it like yugioh, The pharoh and lil yugi had to differ minds and powers..) then what will itachi do?

then you guys say itachi is keeping up with bee with sameh??? ok... bee isnt even close to being serous either! he has yet to pull out the cloak, let alone V2! bee is toying with itachi, trying to get a feel on what he is about. and once he see he is like sasuke he'll show itachi his true powers!..

what you guys are doing is being hardcore itachi fanbois! the true itachi fans that i know of on this site (they know who they are)dont say half the bull you all say. you guys are stuck on your on beliefs its sad..

Bee isnt even in my top 5 favs, but itachi is. (nejis my fav) but i am a fair/true fan who dont go off rep and "he could" bullshit! have he killed anyone with gen??? no, till then stop making up bull.. everything or most of what ive said are facts not bull...

 

[arv993]

ok since you dont seem to get it yet ima tell you again...


amertatsu of any lv is useless agaisnst bee. he put on a act like he was being beat by the flames JUST TO ESCAPE from the village!

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at a slip second he can go to any part of the habachis body and no one but him would no! so amateratsu is useless like it is here now! fact that he can do it again!!! so dont bring up amateratsu again pls!

susanoo isnt a prob aswell, he will just out last it in v2 mode that was to fast and powerful that sameh couldnt even absord the power it had!!!

tsukuyomi isnt a prob when there are 2 minds and three set of chakra's! bee can get cought all he wants i dont care. what im saying is then the 8 tails will tag himself in and take care of itachi )think of it like yugioh, The pharoh and lil yugi had to differ minds and powers..) then what will itachi do?

then you guys say itachi is keeping up with bee with sameh??? ok... bee isnt even close to being serous either! he has yet to pull out the cloak, let alone V2! bee is toying with itachi, trying to get a feel on what he is about. and once he see he is like sasuke he'll show itachi his true powers!..

what you guys are doing is being hardcore itachi fanbois! the true itachi fans that i know of on this site (they know who they are)dont say half the bull you all say. you guys are stuck on your on beliefs its sad..

Bee isnt even in my top 5 favs, but itachi is. (nejis my fav) but i am a fair/true fan who dont go off rep and "he could" bullshit! have he killed anyone with gen??? no, till then stop making up bull.. everything or most of what ive said are facts not bull...

you are just making a lame excuse it did work on him read a few chapters later bee says that he was the top 2 strongest guys i fought, that means he was serious and would not just screw around in a fight like that and the hachibi says that he sacrificed many of its tails and he said that there was nothing that could be done about it, it is only afterwards that he realized that he could get away from the village. he escaped very smartly but that is all he could have done there is nothing more he could have done otherwise he would have been killed and itachi is better with amaterasu also and would burn bee till he is in ashes. And you are underestimating susano because the sword of totsuka can seal him forever and he is not so fast when he is in hacibi form and not mention he has an arrow that that is extremely powerful and is almost impossible to dodge unless you are A or naruto. Itachi has to tell him all his secrets in order for bee to win.

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[Draegod]

you are just making a lame excuse it did work on him read a few chapters later bee says that he was the top 2 strongest guys i fought, that means he was serious and would not just screw around in a fight like that and the hachibi says that he sacrificed many of its tails and he said that there was nothing that could be done about it, it is only afterwards that he realized that he could get away from the village. he escaped very smartly but that is all he could have done there is nothing more he could have done otherwise he would have been killed and itachi is better with amaterasu also and would burn bee till he is in ashes. And you are underestimating susano because the sword of totsuka can seal him forever and he is not so fast when he is in hacibi form and not mention he has an arrow that that is extremely powerful and is almost impossible to dodge unless you are A or naruto. Itachi has to tell him all his secrets in order for bee to win.

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itachi doesnt have arrows like sasuke, where you get that bull from????

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one hit K.O. lariat!

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moving faster then kisame in water!

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match the raikages speed in his lightning armour...(they have to perfect with each other to proform it successfuly) fact!

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fast enuff to interfere with one of A's super fast puches!

do you still think he is slow?????......

so you are saying this is 100% of bee's powers and taht he can get no better then what he is showing itachi????? Get out of here!!!!!xd

 

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itachi doesnt have arrows like sasuke, where you get that bull from????

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one hit K.O. lariat!

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moving faster then kisame in water!

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match the raikages speed in his lightning armour...(they have to perfect with each other to proform it successfuly) fact!

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fast enuff to interfere with one of A's super fast puches!

do you still think he is slow?????......

so you are saying this is 100% of bee's powers and taht he can get no better then what he is showing itachi????? Get out of here!!!!!xd

my bad i forgot itachi doen't have that but he still has yata mirrior(ultimate defense), amaterasu which can beat him and something bee cannot doge becos he cannot do because he is not as fast as A, has totsuka sword which he can use when hachibi is in 8 tails mode and is slow where if he hits then bee would forever be sealed. he cannot beat itachi with his normal powers and has to go into hachibi mode to even kill itachi and he could either beat him with amaterasu or totsuka sword. not to mention tsukiyomi would probably work becos all it needs is a second and it takes hachibi to yell at him and wake him up and by that time he would be on the floor because he would have went through 3 days of hell. Dude he can't beat amaterasu don't give me that bull and i nver said he was slow but not nearly as fast as A or naruto so he can't dodge fast moves like the arrows sasuke has or the amaterasu.

 

[Draegod]

my bad i forgot itachi doen't have that but he still has yata mirrior(ultimate defense), amaterasu which can beat him and something bee cannot doge becos he cannot do because he is not as fast as A, has totsuka sword which he can use when hachibi is in 8 tails mode and is slow where if he hits then bee would forever be sealed. he cannot beat itachi with his normal powers and has to go into hachibi mode to even kill itachi and he could either beat him with amaterasu or totsuka sword. not to mention tsukiyomi would probably work becos all it needs is a second and it takes hachibi to yell at him and wake him up and by that time he would be on the floor because he would have went through 3 days of hell. Dude he can't beat amaterasu don't give me that bull and i nver said he was slow but not nearly as fast as A or naruto so he can't dodge fast moves like the arrows sasuke has or the amaterasu.

and who says he cant dodge those moves???? no where in the manag was it said or even hinted that he cannot...


itachi has to pierce the opponent with the sword! not cut, touch, graze, or slash. he has to pierce, and that is a fact!!!!

the susanoo has a weak spot in the rear, and that is a fact! the shield does not surround his whole body now do it????

and what part of 2 minds do you not understand???? itachi cannot spam tsukuyomi like you think he can.. and it plays a huge huge toll on him everytime he uses MS and that is a fact! (chakra, and health wise)

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[Itachi Namikaze]

and who says he cant dodge those moves???? no where in the manag was it said or even hinted that he cannot...


itachi has to pierce the opponent with the sword! not cut, touch, graze, or slash. he has to pierce, and that is a fact!!!!

the susanoo has a weak spot in the rear, and that is a fact! the shield does not surround his whole body now do it????

and what part of 2 minds do you not understand???? itachi cannot spam tsukuyomi like you think he can.. and it plays a huge huge toll on him everytime he uses MS and that is a fact! (chakra, and health wise)

take a sec.... ill wait.... anything else?

None of those are actually facts, those are just things that either were circumstantial or you are just saying something is a fact when clearly you are making up your information. Why do you have to be an ass to people when you make stuff up all the time?

Nowhere in the manga will it ever say that someone can't dodge something else, but Sasuke got Bee in Hachibi mode with Amaterasu and it would have killed him had Sasuke not cut the tail off. Bee can't put out Amaterasu so his only escape from that is to cut off his own tails/body parts like the Raikage. Also Bee is not as fast as A or Naruto so dodging Amaterasu would still be hard for him, especially since Itachi is much faster than Sasuke. SO unless Bee wants to sacrifice a tail or some other body part then he loses to Amaterasu.

Nowhere in the manga was it said that the Totsuka sword had to pierce someone to seal them. Itachi pierced Oro because he was right in front of him, he didn't try to slash him or attack him in any other way with it so you have no proof it wouldn't work. So that also is not a fact.

Where are you getting that Itachi's Susanoo has a weak spot? You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror. Zetsu said that it made Itachi invincible and we know that it can block any attack. What you said has no basis from the manga. What you said here is also not a fact.

Bee has counters to genjutsu, but you have no proof that it would work against Tsukuyomi, not even a little bit of proof. In fact Itachi said that only someone related to him could break out of his Tsukuyomi. How would Samehada or the Hachibi break him out if it only lasts a second?

And you don't know how much of a toll it takes on him, he was deathly sick from disease, the manga said he should have been dead but he took medicine to stay alive until he could fight Sasuke, and he still used Amaterasu twice in that fight plus Tsukuyomi and Susanoo. That isn't even counting all the other genjutsu and ninjutsu he did.


My whole point with this is to tell you that you are speculating about things which you have no proof about and then calling them facts. Please stop it.

 

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itachi doesnt have arrows like sasuke, where you get that bull from????

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one hit K.O. lariat!

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moving faster then kisame in water!

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match the raikages speed in his lightning armour...(they have to perfect with each other to proform it successfuly) fact!

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fast enuff to interfere with one of A's super fast puches!

do you still think he is slow?????......

so you are saying this is 100% of bee's powers and taht he can get no better then what he is showing itachi????? Get out of here!!!!!xd

Wow again you are just pulling random pictures from the manga and giving them meaning that isn't there. Bee didn't one hit KO Kisame, Kisame was still standing even before Samehada helped him.

next all you showed was a picture of Bee swimming. It said in the manga that Kisame was faster than him in the water so stop trying to lie.

He didn't have to match Raikage's speed, they match power. Power does not equal speed. Their specialty was the double lariat and the point is to do it at the same time so of course they would be moving the same speed but it makes more sense that A would slow down for Bee than you saying that Bee is as fast as A.

 

[theanimegeek]

genjutsu can make you see things. sasuke did it on danzo and he got killed because he thought that the last sharingan eye was activated but it was genjutsu

 

[yondaimeminato]

Draegod you are completely wrong

 

[Venus]

bee would die in moments

 

[YellowFang]

Yo people!!! ya all got heated up........
Here the dude said genjutsu is overrated, he has his reasons coz he is a noob and FYI genjutsu is the best in the three sorts(nin, tai, gen)...
Itachi's weakest genjutsu is on par with sasuke's tsukiyomi so if B can escape sasuke's tsukiyomi he can escape itachi's ave. genjutsu whhich he did + Itachi was guiding him.......after that as SIR ITACHI NAMIKAZE stated that tssukiyomi is done in a mere single second but it does a damage for 72 hours that means if B even have 1000 resources of re-awakening from genjutsu he can't escape tsukiyomi of itachi once caught in one before anyone helps you out you are done for coz you won't be able to stand up on your feet again being terribly disturbed from inside....and for the other options in fight Itachi owns B somehow.....U_U

 

[Draegod]

None of those are actually facts, those are just things that either were circumstantial or you are just saying something is a fact when clearly you are making up your information. Why do you have to be an ass to people when you make stuff up all the time?

Nowhere in the manga will it ever say that someone can't dodge something else, but Sasuke got Bee in Hachibi mode with Amaterasu and it would have killed him had Sasuke not cut the tail off. Bee can't put out Amaterasu so his only escape from that is to cut off his own tails/body parts like the Raikage. Also Bee is not as fast as A or Naruto so dodging Amaterasu would still be hard for him, especially since Itachi is much faster than Sasuke. SO unless Bee wants to sacrifice a tail or some other body part then he loses to Amaterasu.

Nowhere in the manga was it said that the Totsuka sword had to pierce someone to seal them. Itachi pierced Oro because he was right in front of him, he didn't try to slash him or attack him in any other way with it so you have no proof it wouldn't work. So that also is not a fact.

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oru clearly says peirce does he not???

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itachi cleary touches/slash/cut/beheads the snake and no sealing right??? so what i said is a fact till proven wrong, get your facts strait and you call your self an itachi fan.... next!


Where are you getting that Itachi's Susanoo has a weak spot? You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror. Zetsu said that it made Itachi invincible and we know that it can block any attack. What you said has no basis from the manga. What you said here is also not a fact.

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it says the sheild can turn back any atk and it is cleary not around his body right??? and where did zetsu say he was invincible and unstoppable??? show proof for once in your life! (if only you knew... i wanna see this.lol)

Bee has counters to genjutsu, but you have no proof that it would work against Tsukuyomi, not even a little bit of proof. In fact Itachi said that only someone related to him could break out of his Tsukuyomi. How would Samehada or the Hachibi break him out if it only lasts a second?

again, you are not paying attention! me and other ppl already got past this point. before you but in not reading everything we already post adn come at me like you are kishi or someone. i said, the habachi can take control of bees mind and fight for him. you no, as in, bee gets hit, habachi takes over the fight in v2 or full 8atils. pay attention please!

And you don't know how much of a toll it takes on him, he was deathly sick from disease, the manga said he should have been dead but he took medicine to stay alive until he could fight Sasuke, and he still used Amaterasu twice in that fight plus Tsukuyomi and Susanoo. That isn't even counting all the other genjutsu and ninjutsu he did.

okay now i got you! you was bringing up zetsu saying "itachi is invincible", well zetsu says,

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right here he is clearly in pain, since you wanna take things litterally there you go!

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sasuke is clearly running from it and bee v2 is wayyyyyyyy faster then sasuke!

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what sasuke said.. and i know your going to say, "itachi didnt want to kill him and he let him win", well since you want to be literal, there is proof for itachi.

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his right hand man says to be careful aswell, and he didnt know itachi was a good guy so dont say kisame was putting on a act!

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my body must rest, and dont give me that bull, he was a good guy. if the jutsu take alot out of him, it takes a lot out of him. otherwise he would be a god with out even EMS right??? you are a hardcore uchia fanboi that think itachi cannot lose is what it really is..

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and right here tobi is like even that is a bit over board, and sasuke isnt sick or tired or blind yet. and even he cant spam shit back to back with out taking a small break!

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even sasuke is feeling the after efts! and dont give me that bull "dont compare itach to sasuke", im not comparing the 2, but rather what the techs do to the user!

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right here is were danzou puts a whole in the susanoo. rather its itachis or not doenst matter. what matters is that sasukes susanoo was trnt aronud and couldnt block, just like if itachi had his, it isnt 360 is it????????

if you would of read all what me and the others were sasying you would see that i said he could last the susanoo and overwhelm it. but you had to be a jackass coming at me wrong, so i retaliate with what you gave me. iwasnt rude to anyone..yet! till you jumped in acting like you know what we all was conversating about.. next time read everything befor you come at me/others wrong

My whole point with this is to tell you that you are speculating about things which you have no proof about and then calling them facts. Please stop it.

i didnt speculate, everything i said had some kind of proof behind it, and if you knew the manga by heart you would know what i mean, but sadly you dont. what you did was speculate, with "if itachi was not sick 100% healthy", what is that called since there is no proof behind a 100% itachi.... take a sec.... ill wait!

 

[Draegod]

Yo people!!! ya all got heated up........
Here the dude said genjutsu is overrated, he has his reasons coz he is a noob and FYI genjutsu is the best in the three sorts(nin, tai, gen)...
Itachi's weakest genjutsu is on par with sasuke's tsukiyomi so if B can escape sasuke's tsukiyomi he can escape itachi's ave. genjutsu whhich he did + Itachi was guiding him.......after that as SIR ITACHI NAMIKAZE stated that tssukiyomi is done in a mere single second but it does a damage for 72 hours that means if B even have 1000 resources of re-awakening from genjutsu he can't escape tsukiyomi of itachi once caught in one before anyone helps you out you are done for coz you won't be able to stand up on your feet again being terribly disturbed from inside....and for the other options in fight Itachi owns B somehow.....U_U

lmao hahahahah you call me a noob but you arent even in the same league as me! before you hop on the thread how bout you read everything first kid!:flaw: if you ddid i wouldnt have to fire you up for being a noob not knowing what i actualy meant! the real fans on this site whos opinion i respect know what i mean/meant so they are off the thread. but the D.A's on this site are still trying to go at it not knowing that it has already been talked about what i meant. smh.... **i hate noobs who act like they are "cool"** lmao xd

 

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oru clearly says peirce does he not???

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itachi cleary touches/slash/cut/beheads the snake and no sealing right??? so what i said is a fact till proven wrong, get your facts strait and you call your self an itachi fan.... next!


Where are you getting that Itachi's Susanoo has a weak spot? You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror. Zetsu said that it made Itachi invincible and we know that it can block any attack. What you said has no basis from the manga. What you said here is also not a fact.

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it says the sheild can turn back any atk and it is cleary not around his body right??? and where did zetsu say he was invincible and unstoppable??? show proof for once in your life! (if only you knew... i wanna see this.lol)






again, you are not paying attention! me and other ppl already got past this point. before you but in not reading everything we already post adn come at me like you are kishi or someone. i said, the habachi can take control of bees mind and fight for him. you no, as in, bee gets hit, habachi takes over the fight in v2 or full 8atils. pay attention please!






okay now i got you! you was bringing up zetsu saying "itachi is invincible", well zetsu says,

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right here he is clearly in pain, since you wanna take things litterally there you go!

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sasuke is clearly running from it and bee v2 is wayyyyyyyy faster then sasuke!

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what sasuke said.. and i know your going to say, "itachi didnt want to kill him and he let him win", well since you want to be literal, there is proof for itachi.

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his right hand man says to be careful aswell, and he didnt know itachi was a good guy so dont say kisame was putting on a act!

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my body must rest, and dont give me that bull, he was a good guy. if the jutsu take alot out of him, it takes a lot out of him. otherwise he would be a god with out even EMS right??? you are a hardcore uchia fanboi that think itachi cannot lose is what it really is..

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and right here tobi is like even that is a bit over board, and sasuke isnt sick or tired or blind yet. and even he cant spam shit back to back with out taking a small break!

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even sasuke is feeling the after efts! and dont give me that bull "dont compare itach to sasuke", im not comparing the 2, but rather what the techs do to the user!

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right here is were danzou puts a whole in the susanoo. rather its itachis or not doenst matter. what matters is that sasukes susanoo was trnt aronud and couldnt block, just like if itachi had his, it isnt 360 is it????????

if you would of read all what me and the others were sasying you would see that i said he could last the susanoo and overwhelm it. but you had to be a jackass coming at me wrong, so i retaliate with what you gave me. iwasnt rude to anyone..yet! till you jumped in acting like you know what we all was conversating about.. next time read everything befor you come at me/others wrong






i didnt speculate, everything i said had some kind of proof behind it, and if you knew the manga by heart you would know what i mean, but sadly you dont. what you did was speculate, with "if itachi was not sick 100% healthy", what is that called since there is no proof behind a 100% itachi.... take a sec.... ill wait!

You still don't know that the Totsuka sword won't seal if it slashes, slashing people pierces them as well. Oro didn't say it had to be a straight forward thrust, and with the snakes well that wasn't really him now was it? Those snakes could be sealed alongside Oro in the Totsuka sword, you just don't know.

Back to Bee, if he got hit by Tsukuyomi he would be unconscious, and the only bijuu that we have seen come out when the jinchuriiki is unconscious is Shukaku when Gaara sleeps, that is why for his early life he didn't sleep and he had those massive dark circles under his eyes. If the bijuu protected an unconsciou jinchurikki then all the times Naruto got knocked out the Nine-tails would have come out. How many times have we seen an unconscious jinchurikki and no tailed beast coming out? It has even shown that when a jinchurikki loses consciousness so does the tailed beast. If you want proof you can go look up the fight between the Sannin in part 1 where Naruto starts to lose consciousness and the nine-tails does too. There are other examples but that one is the earliest. SO yeah Bee loses still. Plus even if he was in the full eight tails mode (since he would have to be if the eight tails fully took over) then that makes it an easy target for Amaterasu or the Totsuka sword since that form is much slower and is a giant target. In that form he has no defense against the Totsuka sword and his only defense against Amaterasu is to cut off his limbs/tails.

Now to Itachi, I'm not saying it doesn't take a toll on him but you are overstating that fact. The only time we have seen him use MS he uses it at least 3 or 4 times in a day. First when he uses Tsukuyomi twice against Kakashi and Sasuke, then Amaterasu to burn Jiraiya's toad stomach. And in part 2 when he fights Sasuke he uses it 4-5 times while being deathly sick and you are not taking that into account.

You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror, you don't know whether or not it's invulnerability extends to the back or not. You just assume it doesn't because Sasuke's Susanoo was weak. Plus their Susanoo turns with them so it would be very hard for a Bee to get behind Itachi in Hachibi mode, and if he isn't in Hachibi mode it won't matter because Itachi probably wouldn't have Susanoo up.

Just because you take pictures from the manga does not mean it is proof. You have been making up your own facts to go along with the manga. Stuff that hasn't been said, like about Itachi's Susanoo having a weakness, neither of us know what the Yata mirror will or will not block.

 

[arv993]

None of those are actually facts, those are just things that either were circumstantial or you are just saying something is a fact when clearly you are making up your information. Why do you have to be an ass to people when you make stuff up all the time?

Nowhere in the manga will it ever say that someone can't dodge something else, but Sasuke got Bee in Hachibi mode with Amaterasu and it would have killed him had Sasuke not cut the tail off. Bee can't put out Amaterasu so his only escape from that is to cut off his own tails/body parts like the Raikage. Also Bee is not as fast as A or Naruto so dodging Amaterasu would still be hard for him, especially since Itachi is much faster than Sasuke. SO unless Bee wants to sacrifice a tail or some other body part then he loses to Amaterasu.

Nowhere in the manga was it said that the Totsuka sword had to pierce someone to seal them. Itachi pierced Oro because he was right in front of him, he didn't try to slash him or attack him in any other way with it so you have no proof it wouldn't work. So that also is not a fact.

Where are you getting that Itachi's Susanoo has a weak spot? You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror. Zetsu said that it made Itachi invincible and we know that it can block any attack. What you said has no basis from the manga. What you said here is also not a fact.

Bee has counters to genjutsu, but you have no proof that it would work against Tsukuyomi, not even a little bit of proof. In fact Itachi said that only someone related to him could break out of his Tsukuyomi. How would Samehada or the Hachibi break him out if it only lasts a second?

And you don't know how much of a toll it takes on him, he was deathly sick from disease, the manga said he should have been dead but he took medicine to stay alive until he could fight Sasuke, and he still used Amaterasu twice in that fight plus Tsukuyomi and Susanoo. That isn't even counting all the other genjutsu and ninjutsu he did.


My whole point with this is to tell you that you are speculating about things which you have no proof about and then calling them facts. Please stop it.

thanks a lot man that guy keeps making BS like bee let sasuke use amaterasu on him so that he could esxcape the village and bee did not think that far ahead and he says that is 2 of the strongest guys he fought and itach would be muach more trouble to him.

 

[LMAOnoobs]

itachi stronger

 

[Draegod]

You still don't know that the Totsuka sword won't seal if it slashes, slashing people pierces them as well. Oro didn't say it had to be a straight forward thrust, and with the snakes well that wasn't really him now was it? Those snakes could be sealed alongside Oro in the Totsuka sword, you just don't know.

Back to Bee, if he got hit by Tsukuyomi he would be unconscious, and the only bijuu that we have seen come out when the jinchuriiki is unconscious is Shukaku when Gaara sleeps, that is why for his early life he didn't sleep and he had those massive dark circles under his eyes. If the bijuu protected an unconsciou jinchurikki then all the times Naruto got knocked out the Nine-tails would have come out. How many times have we seen an unconscious jinchurikki and no tailed beast coming out? It has even shown that when a jinchurikki loses consciousness so does the tailed beast. If you want proof you can go look up the fight between the Sannin in part 1 where Naruto starts to lose consciousness and the nine-tails does too. There are other examples but that one is the earliest. SO yeah Bee loses still. Plus even if he was in the full eight tails mode (since he would have to be if the eight tails fully took over) then that makes it an easy target for Amaterasu or the Totsuka sword since that form is much slower and is a giant target. In that form he has no defense against the Totsuka sword and his only defense against Amaterasu is to cut off his limbs/tails.

Now to Itachi, I'm not saying it doesn't take a toll on him but you are overstating that fact. The only time we have seen him use MS he uses it at least 3 or 4 times in a day. First when he uses Tsukuyomi twice against Kakashi and Sasuke, then Amaterasu to burn Jiraiya's toad stomach. And in part 2 when he fights Sasuke he uses it 4-5 times while being deathly sick and you are not taking that into account.

You don't know the capabilities of the Yata mirror, you don't know whether or not it's invulnerability extends to the back or not. You just assume it doesn't because Sasuke's Susanoo was weak. Plus their Susanoo turns with them so it would be very hard for a Bee to get behind Itachi in Hachibi mode, and if he isn't in Hachibi mode it won't matter because Itachi probably wouldn't have Susanoo up.

Just because you take pictures from the manga does not mean it is proof. You have been making up your own facts to go along with the manga. Stuff that hasn't been said, like about Itachi's Susanoo having a weakness, neither of us know what the Yata mirror will or will not block.

Lol now....... You get at me for speculating and using the manga, but you don't realise you contradict your self by saying be loses to all itachi ms techs with no proof what so ever.. Then you play dumb saying that oru didn't say peirce when it is a fact he did... You are a sad man getting on me not knowing you are doing what I did but worse! Your not even worth my time anymore.. You are a hardcore itachi fanboy it's sad, and never admit to anything that you don't agee on... Don't waste your time replying bud!

 

[Draegod]

thanks a lot man that guy keeps making BS like bee let sasuke use amaterasu on him so that he could esxcape the village and bee did not think that far ahead and he says that is 2 of the strongest guys he fought and itach would be muach more trouble to him.

And what we have here is a tip ryder! A person who uses other ppl to talk for him! Lmao your a bigger fanboy then him, atleast he knows what he is talking about more then you! Lol sad really..

 

[ranks33]

hi level genjutsu can kill,kakashi said it.Look what itchi did to ORO and it was not even hi level.Itachi and nagato could win this hands down that is why the crow is comin out it will do the imposible.

ALL the battle we have seen there maybe is a genjutsu and the crow will break it

 

[ranks33]

How is killer B better than Itachi even if tsukiyomi doesn't work amaterasu and susano would defeat bee. Bee in his 8 tails mode lost instantly to sasuke when he activated amaterasu.

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