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Actually messi deserved the ballon d or last year? He scored 91 goals in a calendar year which is a record in the history of european football he even scored 71 goals in a season which was another record too. Last season he scored 60 goals in 50 apperances compared to ronaldo who scored 55 goals in 55 apps messi once again outclassed ronaldo and got the laliga golden boot, european golden boot, and helped his team with laliga with 100 points, whereas ronaldo was trophyless and the only thing he can take pride of is his ucl top scorer award, So despite his goals this year, ronaldo has no trophy to show for it who unlike messi for last season has both the trophies and the goals to back him up, now dont say that 2 season ago ronaldo won laliga trophy so why didnt they give him? True he did, But so did messi he won a trophy too the spanish cup if i can recall and scored 91 goals in a calendar year so what more do you need lol? Based on last season alone messi deserves the ballon d or because he won the league and got the european golden boot, and basically carried the whole of the barca team on his back, unlike ribery who true won the treble but it was due to a collective effort not his own individual effort unlike messi whose mere prensence in quarter finals against psg changed the game despite him being injured lol.In my opinion 2014 ballon d or should go to ribery mainly because excluding messi who already lost the race due to his injury his closest competiton ronaldo in so far off in terms of trophies which would be a huge factor in deciding who wins the ballon d or, ronaldo was trophyless compared to ribery who won the treble and also ribery goal tallies was not sure but over 20 goals for the season who for a winger isnt bad.
Okay lets just break this down a bit (I'm starting to regret mentioning last year) we have to ask ourselves, how does one choose a Ballon dor winner? What do they look at?
Goals? Assists? Overall performance? Team success? Records?
According to me previous awards and team success have nothing to do with it, Ballon dor is completely just the individual player and how he plays. So now what? Goals? Some goals come by easy while others come by pure hard work, can goals be included? It's easy for a striker to just tap the ball in the goal post after hard work coming from the midfield. With that being said, then why don't goalkeepers and defenders ever win?
I've actually lost my trail of thought lol this is mouthful to get your head wrapped around it...
Portugal or Sweden, Ronaldo or Zlatan? Make your bets people 
It's a hard choice, but I for one would prefer Portugal over Sweden if they preform anything like they did in the last Euro. What do you guys think?
It's a hard choice, but I for one would prefer Portugal over Sweden if they preform anything like they did in the last Euro. What do you guys think?
Third Sage
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Sweden all the way.Portugal or Sweden, Ronaldo or Zlatan? Make your bets people
It's a hard choice, but I for one would prefer Portugal over Sweden if they preform anything like they did in the last Euro. What do you guys think?
The Sach
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And United lost yet again, I opened today's newspaper read about United vs Everton and got so angry that I threw it in the dustbin.
When they had draw against spurs, home game and considering Rooney's form I was expecting at least a draw if not win, and what Moyes said on top of that was really disappointing, he just said 'We could have done better, we missed chances', ya they did miss, and I agree that luck wasn't on our side, but we can't simply neglect the mistakes made by United.
I am still not getting Moyes's plans behind not including Harnandez in the playing eleven, he could have introduced Welbeck as a sub if he wanted to outrun Everton, but considering the fact that Rooney-Hernandez pair can prove vital, I want United to focus more on Harnandez-Rooney, there are many other things that caught my eye, while watching highlights, man I am disappointed with Moyes.:vincent:
When they had draw against spurs, home game and considering Rooney's form I was expecting at least a draw if not win, and what Moyes said on top of that was really disappointing, he just said 'We could have done better, we missed chances', ya they did miss, and I agree that luck wasn't on our side, but we can't simply neglect the mistakes made by United.
I am still not getting Moyes's plans behind not including Harnandez in the playing eleven, he could have introduced Welbeck as a sub if he wanted to outrun Everton, but considering the fact that Rooney-Hernandez pair can prove vital, I want United to focus more on Harnandez-Rooney, there are many other things that caught my eye, while watching highlights, man I am disappointed with Moyes.:vincent:
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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And United lost again just a few hours ago LMAO....
where is Escorp ? i kinda remember him bragging about MANU is back after beating Arsenal
IN MOYES WE RUST
where is Escorp ? i kinda remember him bragging about MANU is back after beating Arsenal
IN MOYES WE RUST
Escorpiius
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Well, the Arsenal match was the last good Premier League match, United did. Coincidentally, it coincides with the last match Carrick played with us, before his injury. I'm not including the Leverkusen match (even if it was a fantastic performance) but that's just because Giggs can produce magic every 2 months but he cannot be a reliability like Carrick.And United lost again just a few hours ago LMAO....
where is Escorp ? i kinda remember him bragging about MANU is back after beating Arsenal
Simply put, United always had one real class midfielder, with him, injured - so is the midfield. And thereby, those results of those uninspiring draws and defeats. What's happening is a direct consequence of the utter failure in the last transfer window! Not reinforcing our midfield with 2 great midfielders, just destroyed this whole half-season in shatters...
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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should have let Pogba played instead recalling Scholes LOL
You know am still wondering about united missing out on midfielders in the summer, i mean how in the world United lose against my beloved Roma to get Strootman ?
i mean he's way cheaper than Fellaini and United is already targeting the lad since last year,
and now i heard moyes want him again and offer 35M EURO to Roma, i can only say United can keep their money cause Roma will never sell him unless they offer 60M EURO
that guy is a BEAST
Not really, i mean Benitez win La Liga with Valencia..I think Moyes is a cup coach, just like benitez
The Sach
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Strootman could have been a nice addition to our squad, Moyes failed there.:|should have let Pogba played instead recalling Scholes LOL
You know am still wondering about united missing out on midfielders in the summer, i mean how in the world United lose against my beloved Roma to get Strootman ?
i mean he's way cheaper than Fellaini and United is already targeting the lad since last year,
and now i heard moyes want him again and offer 35M EURO to Roma, i can only say United can keep their money cause Roma will never sell him unless they offer 60M EURO
that guy is a BEAST
Not only strootman many other players including Alcantara.
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Just saw this now on the news. I'm crying a bit, my idol and the greatest reference of my team.You must be registered for see links
RIP LEGEND
R.I.P Eusébio.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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Totsuka No Tsurugi
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Give some respect really, Ronaldo also has been injured this year and missing some games where he can actually add his goal tally in 2013
Are you kidding me? Upon messi missing the last 3 weeks of last season he still had better stats than ronaldo messi had 60goals in 50games whereas ronaldo had 55goals in 55games, admit it if messi was not injured ronaldo wouldn't have had it easy or i dare say even won it but that's all speculation sighs
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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This is what Messi said
"I don’t know if it would have been different if I hadn’t been injured, but I was out for a long time. It meant I wasn’t in the best shape at the end of the Champions League and meant I started the season injured.
"It was a long time out, but that has nothing to do with it. Cristiano had a great year and he won it on merit."
so man up and respect The Fifa Ballon D'or 2013 Winner.
"I don’t know if it would have been different if I hadn’t been injured, but I was out for a long time. It meant I wasn’t in the best shape at the end of the Champions League and meant I started the season injured.
"It was a long time out, but that has nothing to do with it. Cristiano had a great year and he won it on merit."
so man up and respect The Fifa Ballon D'or 2013 Winner.