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Such a joke that barca are allowed to sign him. Why ban them from transfers in the first place? They do what the **** they want anyway.
 

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Such a joke that barca are allowed to sign him. Why ban them from transfers in the first place? They do what the **** they want anyway.
We are allowed to sign player but those players cant play until our ban is suspended at january 2016, its because we complained at FIFA for removing the ban completely but the only thing they did for us was suspend the ban last year but take it back at 2015, means that we can transfer players but they cant play until 2016, what is so wrong with that?
 

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I guess, it is more like Bastian wished to transfer and United need 'leader like players', so they signed him.
It is a good signing, even if it is surprising. Bastian doesn't look half a bad player to me. It also is a reflection of how United has changed over the course of years(in post-Furguson era, typically).
Darmian is better transfer IMO and now we need to look for:
1. Central Defender(Otamendi in particular)
2. Striker (Muller will be awesome)
3. Schneinderlin
 
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Muller to United sound scary to me. Goal machine, better than Aguero and Elephant man.
They won't get Müller and he is certainly not a better goal scorer than Aguero or Costa.

We are allowed to sign player but those players cant play until our ban is suspended at january 2016, its because we complained at FIFA for removing the ban completely but the only thing they did for us was suspend the ban last year but take it back at 2015, means that we can transfer players but they cant play until 2016, what is so wrong with that?
If you are banned from the market you shouldn't be able to buy players imo, simples.
 
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[video=youtube;VOIYOqr3aLM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOIYOqr3aLM[/video]

If he's not the GREATEST midfielder England ever saw, then I don't know who is.
 

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[video=youtube;VOIYOqr3aLM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOIYOqr3aLM[/video]

If he's not the GREATEST midfielder England ever saw, then I don't know who is.
Lampard is better, he has the same abilities as Gerrard in every aspect of the game, more goals and makes no fatal errors :erm:
 

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No . :p think about it . even the trophies
The trophies have nothing to do with it, it's no secret that manure are Englands most sucessful team of the last 25 years. I'm talking about Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes individually and don't get me wrong Scholes is a great player but he isn't even close to Gerrard and Lampard. He can't shoot like them, he has far less assists then them, he has far less impact on a game and his tackling was utter shit :lol.
 
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The trophies have nothing to do with it, it's no secret that manure are Englands most sucessful team of the last 25 years. I'm talking about Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes individually and don't get me wrong Scholes is a great player but he isn't even close to Gerrard and Lampard. He can't shoot like them, he has far less assists then them, he has far less impact on a game and his tackling is utter shit :lol.
Yeah sure. he might not be close to lampard . cause he lacks scoring skills . but he is as the same level as gerrad or above him
 

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Scholes is a lot better than those 2 players combined.
Here comes your average Xavi/Pirlo/Scholes wanker. You see, knowing the ****ed up retard you are that wasn't surprising. But fear not, I'll take some of my precious time to enlighten you.

Let's talk some stats first:

Goals

1. Lampard (Highest scoring midfielder in PL history)
2. Gerrard (Second highest scoring midfielder history)
3. Ginger ****

Assists

1. Gerrard (Highest assisting midfielder in PL history)
2. Lampard (Second Highest assisting midfielder in PL history)
3. Scholes

Games played

1. Scholes
2. Lampard
3. Gerrard

Goals & assists per games

1. Lampard
2. Gerrard (Very close to Lampard)
3. Scholes

So Stevie and Frank reached numbers Scholes never reached and they managed to do it in less games.


Now we talk quality:

The only thing Scholes got on Gerrard and Lampard in terms of quality is passing completion. Reason is Scholes in p*ssy passer, Busquets-esque. Meanwhile G&L are hollywood passers. That's it, that's all Scholes got on G&L.

Playmaking- Gerrard
Tackling- Gerrard
Shooting- Gerrard
Goalscoring- Lampard
Versatility- Gerrard
Leadership and Big game performances- Gerrard
Technique- Lampard
Set pieces- Gerrard
Freekicks- Lampard
Strength- Lampard

Keep in mind all categories mentioned are shared between G&L, so Scholes isn't even second and that goes to all other midfielders (Vieria, Keane, Toure, Tugay, Beckham, Alonso, Fabregas.. you name them).

Finally let's talk logic:

Teammates:

Cantona, Giggs, Beckham, Van Der Sar, Vidic, Rio, Stam, Evra, Nev, Carrick, Rooney, Cantona, Van Persie, Ronaldo, Veron, Blanc, Forlan, Keane, Tevez, Van Nistelrooy.

Terry, Ballack, Carvalho, Drogba, Cole, Cech, Zola, Desailly, Makelele, Essien, Robben, Deco, Joe Cole, Torres, Mata and Hazard.

Torres, Owen, Alonso, Suarez and Carra. That's all Folks.
Still got to mention Traore, Voronin, Shelvey, Aquilani, Spearing, Lambert, Balotelli, Borini, Lovren, Babel, Meireles.

Managers:

SAF
Mou, Ancelotti, Roberto Di Matteo, Bentiez
Bentiez, Roy Hodgson, Brendna

Personal Honours:

Gerrard

UEFA Club Footballer of the Year 2005
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award 2005
FIFA World XI 3 times
PFA Player of the Year 2006
PFA Team of the Year (record 8 times)
England Player of the Year Award (2007,2012)
UEFA Team of the Year 3 times
Goal of the Season 2006
Premier League Player of the Month (record 6 times)

Lampard

Ballon d'Or Silver Award 2005
Premier League Player of the Season 2005
PFA Team of the Year (5 times)
England Player of the Year

Scholes

PFA Team of the Year (twice)
Premier League Player of the Month (4 times)
.
.
.
That's it ? but but but but but but Xavi said he dreams about playing alongside him... nah, no flying ****s to spare.

Funny how Gerrard won almost every individual and team honour possible playing with mediocre players under mediocre managers. While the ginger manc **** retired from international duty on the age of 29 cause he was left to rot on the bench.

Even funnier how none of the Legendary class of 92 who played a combined 123 years was in FIFA team of the year while Gerrard and Alonso alone did it 5 times.


So bottom line is... Gerrard > Lampard >>>> Scholes

No . :p think about it . even the trophies
Yeah well done comparing players based on team trophies. I would love to see Scholes win trophies playing with Spearing and Shelvey under Roy Hodgson.
 
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