[Gen] Gen with Adachi sensei

[Corazon]

Lol I was going to say time frame the 1st time but I figured you knew some cool trick that I didn't xd

Standing opposite his sensei, Ryu weaves 5 hand seals and starts channeling chakra throughout his body and once he has gathered enough, he releases it from his body and manipulates it to enter his senseis body and mind to initiate his Genjutsu. After his chakra enters his senseis body and the Genjutsu kicks in, his sensei will see him standing in the same place with the same stance but as the wind blows across the training ground, Ryu's sensei would think Ryu was made from cherry blossom petals because as the wind hits Ryu, he would be blown away as his body dissolves into cherry blossom petals that fly towards his sensei and swirl all around him while obscuring his vision and not allowing him to see anything but petals

It would hide your location and allow you to move around while your opponents vision is obscured

 

[Adachi]

Excellent! Let's talk about something important.
Field of vision.
By knowing where your opponent's eyes are directed at all times allows you take advantage of this and send a jutsu from a direction where you know they won't be looking at. This is also especially important when you are battling against Doujutsu users, especially Byakugans, because they only have one blind spot out of their 360 vision.
This jutsu blocks your opponent's field of vision, so that you are able to execute other moves upon him while he scrambles to see again.

Spoiler

( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.

This is one of the many ways to be creative when disguising your next move in a battle. By outplaying your opponent or tricking them, it allows you to defeat them in battle.

This next jutsu allows the use of an explosive tag. I often feel that such tools are severely underrated during a battle. Tell me several ways to use one and how it works in battle.

 

[Corazon]

Explosive tags are indeed underrated, they have several uses which can be used to your advantage, 1 such example is using it to create a smoke screen to mask your location or actions for that specific amount of time, which is achieved once the explosive tag goes off, leaving behind a cloud of smoke. Another handy usage of tags could be to destroy small boulders, meaning you don't have to waste a jutsu and chakra on it [because the explosive tag has the destructive power to destroy it. Applying explosive tags to kunais also gives you the ability to send them much further than in normal circumstances due to the distance kunai can travel.

 

[Reborn]

Second thread I've stolen from adachi...did you tell him?

 

[Corazon]

He asked his students to look for some1 to continue because he will be unable to continue them because of Mod duties o.o

 

[Reborn]

Alright, so I can't be bothered to look back through all the ish he went through so aside from the techniques did she go over in depth about these concepts;

Determining/Breaking Genjutsu
Casting Genjutsu
Layering Genjutsu?

 

[Corazon]

Well not really, the only concept we really went into was breaking out of Genjutsu, the rest weren't really explained

 

[Reborn]

Alright I'm just going to give you a little quiz to assess your knowledge thus far.

1. Name the ways in which a shinobi can determine they are in a genjutsu

2. There are 4 methods in which an ordinary person can break genjutsu list them and explain them briefly, also explain the additional way that is limited to Deidara bios and Uchiha

3. Sage Mode, Curse Mark, Absorption Jutsu, Bijuu are all methods that can break somebody out of genjutsu; explain how and which of the four methods each of these belong to

4. What is the condition that must be met before you can cast a genjutsu on somebody?

5. How is a genjutsu normally cast on a shinobi and in what additional ways can a genjutsu be cast on people?

6. When type of genjutsu is especially useful against Uchiha users and why

7. True or False: When you layer two genjutsu you put the weakest rank first followed by the strongest.

8. True or False: You can layer can layer two genjutsu of the same rank regardless

9. True or False: You can layer any genjutsu with another so long as the appropriate rank comes first

10. Which two genjutsu would you use for a layer and in what order?:

Genjutsu 1
Rank: A
Description: Makes opponent fall asleep

Genjutsu 2
Rank: S
Description: Rips out your opponent's soul and tortures it

Genjutsu 3
Rank: B
Description: Makes your opponent appear on the beach with Big Boob Bunch; Tsunade, Orihime, that one Lt. from Bleach who's name I forgot, Hinata, Nami I think she has a descent rack and lets just throw some non BBB hotties in there like Temari and Ino and other sexy characters

Genjutsu 4
Rank: B
Description: Ties up your opponent's arms and legs and prevents them from moving or making hand seals.

Bonus Question: List in order skilled genjutsu users in your opinion here on the base (purely opinion based just want to see how much you know about the base and users)

 

[Corazon]

Lol its been a while since I've had a quiz, well here goes nothing

#1) hmm the ways I currently know how to determine you're in a Genjutsu is if you wield a Dojutsu(Sharingan, Byakugan or Rinnegan) you will be able to see your chakra flow is disrupted which will allow you to break yourself free, 1 of the other ways is if you possess the ability to sense chakra, also if you observe your surroundings and your opponent, you could determine when you are certain Genjutsus

#2) • By using a full body surge - by releasing chakra from every chakra point in your body, you can flush away all the foreign chakra within your body, an example of this is Chidori Nagashi

• Inflicting pain on yourself - by stabbing yourself with a kunai or something that can pierce through your skin, you cause yourself enough pain to release your from the Genjutsu due to that pain being even worsr than the Genjutsu

• Having a comrade insert chakra into you - if you have a comrade or clone(Adachi told me a clone could break you out of Genjutsu) with you on the battlefield and are trapped in a Genjutsu, your comrade can insert his chakra into you in order to break you out of the Genjutsu by flushing away your opponents chakra

• Kai - by stopping the chakra flow within your body for a moment and then spiking it, its allows you to break free of the Genjutsu due to the sudden burst of chakra flushing out the foreign chakra, the Kai technique is used for this

> Deidara - Deidara trained his left eye to such an extent that he was able to see through most Genjutsu(I believe it was up to A rank, not sure hmm)

> Uchiha bios - due to them possessing the Sharingan, Uchiha's are able to see through certain ranks of Genjutsu depending on what stage they have awakened

1T - allows the user to see through D rank
2T - allows the user to see through C rank
3T - allows the user to see through B rank
MS - allows the user to see through A rank
EMS - allows the user to see through S rank

#3) Sage Mode - Full body surge

Curse Mark - Inflicting pain on yourself

Absorption Technique - Kai

Bijuu - having your comrade insert his chakra into you

#4) hmm I would say knowing where they are, locating them before trying to use a Genjutsu on them

#5) Normally you would insert your chakra into your opponents brain, allowing you to disrupt their chakra flow which allows you to show them illusuions, you can also put your opponent under an illusion using soundwaves as we've seen with Tayayu and Ma and Pa, you can also cast Genjutsu through eye contact, the Uchiha being the prime example

#6) I'm gonna say Visual based Genjutsu because it takes away their eyesight, causing them to break it the normal way without the help of their eyes

#7) True o.o

#8) True hmm

#9) False

#10) I would use Genjutsu 4 followed by Genjutsu 2

Bonus question :
Lili
Scorps
You and Vision
I have heard Emperor was a great Genjutsu user so he is on my list as well even though he isn't active

 

[Reborn]

54.5+5bonus I'll give you a 60 rounding...
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1: correct

2: correct

3: partial correct: All of them are of the same method which is external chakra flushing out the foreign chakra. Nature energy external chakra going inside of you. Curse mark is natural energy stored which is an external chakra source and pushes the forign chakra out, absoprtion brings chakra in from the outside and pushes it out, bijuu is the only one you got correct. Every one of these methods involves using external chakra to push chakra out of you. That is the entire concept of the; having a comrade who can release you from genjutsu it's just in the respective cases; nature is your comrade, somebody else who can manipulate nature energy and put it inside of a curse mark is your comrade, your ability to steal chakra and make your enemy or wherever you're absorbing it from your comrade and your Bijuu is your comrade

4: correct

5: partial correct: I gave you partial points because of mentioning sound waves and Uchiha dojutsu. However what you said in the beginning is how all genjutsu works (conventional genjutsu anyway). What I was looking for was the use of hand seals and moving your chakra from point A to point B both points being you and your opponent respectively. As well the other means of transmitting your chakra are through mediums like the five sense; visual, tactile, auditory (you mentioned sound waves), olfactory, and taste. All of which can help you induce genjutsu.

6:incorrect: Question is what was most affective against Uchiha meaning what type of genjutsu would you use against an Uchiha. You gave the one type they can break out of passively. The correct answer was sound based illusions as they cannot see through their ears and therefore a sound illusion is not something they can "see through". You seemed to misinterpret the question.

7:incorrect: You strongest to weakest is the order this is because if you cast a weak illusion and then a strong the stronger half will override it and will stop the other jutsu. If you have the stronger on top then you can layer anything of equal rank and weaker

8:correct: Yes you can layer two genjutsu of the same rank

9:correct: if the jutsu are not compatible i.e one contradicts the other you cannot layer them together they will either cancel out (if equal in rank) or the strongest one will take over

10:incorrect: correct combination wrong order

and I gave you five for the bonus though Emperor has OP stack jutsu and is Grandpa for a reason

 

[Corazon]

Lol I swear I had Sound based Genjutsu down as the most useful for Uchiha, I have no idea why I changed it, it was totally stupid of me but I am getting the hang of this slowly, hopefully when I'm done I can actually be a decent Genjutsu user

I have no questions currently so what's next?

 

[Reborn]

If you want to be decent at genjutsu go to Oji-sama. If you want proficiency stay here with me. I don't train for you to be mediocre in the skill I profess myself a master of.

I have another quiz for you which will re-test what I just taught you above, from there I'll likely continue your technique training from my stand point. This quiz is composed of scenarios and I want you to take the best course of action

1: You're fighting against an Uchiha with 3 tome. You have no sound genjutsu training, but you want to use a genjutsu on him in order to not only get the upper hand on him but humiliate him by using genjutsu against a shinobi who is supposedly a strong genjutsu user. How would you go about this?

-Tell me what canon genjutsu would be best to use
-What type of custom genjutsu could you use (make up an example of an affect within your ability i.e no sound)
-How would you set the stage using to capture him and take him out in three moves (three techniques canon and/or customs)

2: You're an Uchiha, with 3 tome and your opponent is a strong genjutsu user, ordinary, and knows how to fight against you; avoiding eye contact dampening your vision, and he has sound genjutsu. You know he has sound release and you want to cast a genjutsu and also prevent him from casting a genjutsu on you. How would you go about this.

-How would you protect yourself against his sound genjutsu
-How would you cast a genjutsu on him using your Sharingan genjutsu

Also tell me how far Adachi has taken you in technique training (not part of the test just need to know)

 

[Corazon]

Lol I said decent because saying I want to be great at it isn't really a thing you say in front of the Sage of Yin, you picked that name because Genjutsu is believed to be based on Yin release and you specialize in Genjutsuright, well I mentioned 5 official Sages in my list, me saying I want to be great at it is kinda stupid o.o. Anywho, on to business and LoK is definitely better than decent at Genjutsu U_U

Hopefully I do better in this quiz but I have a feeling imma do even worst

Scenario 1

#1)
- I would use the Bringer Of Darkness

Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes one handseal, causing the opponent to believe they have been trapped in a world of infinite darkness, where their sense of sight is useless. It is capable of affecting multiple targets within range. However, it does not negate their other senses.

I wasn't sure if you wanted me to make an example custom, if you did then I will re-do it and I suck at customs o.o

- An illusion with a lot of exploding lights, making him think the flash bombs caused him to lose his sight

I have no customs so I used basic moves

- Kid standing mid range from the Uchiha suddenly dashes towards his opponent, as he runs, he drops 2 flash bombs behind him, causing them to detonate and blind his opponent but not him due to it being behind him, he then forms a single hand seal and inserts his chakra into his opponents mind, making him think he has lost his sight and is trapped in the darkness forever

Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes one handseal, causing the opponent to believe they have been trapped in a world of infinite darkness, where their sense of sight is useless. It is capable of affecting multiple targets within range. However, it does not negate their other senses.

With his opponent now robbed of his sight, Kid removes 2 kunais with explosive tags attached to them and throws them to either side of the Uchiha, he then weaves the Tiger->Dog->Monkey->Snake->Boar->Tiger hand seals and gathering his Suiton chakra, causing a sharp spike of water to appear from the ground behind the Uchiha and stab his calf, forcing him to bend down on 1 knee due to the pain but he wouldn't be able to hear the water as the explosive tags would go off of just before the water could erupt from the ground

Rank: C
Type: Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After performing the required hand signs Tiger → Dog → Monkey → Snake → Boar → Tiger the user makes water rise from the ground and they can use this water in various ways. They can create a body of water for a water summoning to be encased in and allow them to move around where normally no water exists, or create a body of water to block incoming attacks or surround his target and then drown them.

With the Uchiha on 1 knee, he gathers Suiton chakra below the Uchiha and causes water to burst out from the ground below him, trapping the Uchiha in a sphere of water, causing him to lose air and struggling to breath

Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user creates a flow of gushing water under the opponent which traps them in a sphere of water. The user can perform an attack while the opponent is trapped. This jutsu is similar to Water Prison Technique, though the user doesn't need to keep his arm in the sphere of water.
Note: Technique creates its own water source

Scenario 2

Lol I was gonna say earplugs like what Shikamaru did but I don't wanna get dropped o.o

This answer is completely based on anime experience, its most likely wrong but I'm giving it a shot

- Well in the manga, all Sound based Genjutsus took some time for the user to perform and seeing how I would have a 3 tomoe Sharingan, I would attack my opponent using Taijutsu, due to its quick nature(not giving my opponent time to use the Sound Genjutsu) and I will be able to see him gathering chakra so I would be able to stop him from building up enough before he could use his Genjutsu

- If I hit him enough times and hit him the way I want, I will be able to make him lose focus from looking at my chin and even if for a split second, I could place him in a Genjutsu using the Sharingan nd I will be able to predict his movements with 3T so it will be a lot easier

These explanations are probably wrong and I apologize in advance but since once Sound is released, its instant so I thought preventing the opponent from releasing it was the best option

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I only learned these 2 jutsus with Adachi

( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique

( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape

 

[Lord of Kaos]

If you want to be decent at genjutsu go to Oji-sama. If you want proficiency stay here with me. I don't train for you to be mediocre in the skill I profess myself a master of.

I have another quiz for you which will re-test what I just taught you above, from there I'll likely continue your technique training from my stand point. This quiz is composed of scenarios and I want you to take the best course of action

1: You're fighting against an Uchiha with 3 tome. You have no sound genjutsu training, but you want to use a genjutsu on him in order to not only get the upper hand on him but humiliate him by using genjutsu against a shinobi who is supposedly a strong genjutsu user. How would you go about this?

-Tell me what canon genjutsu would be best to use
-What type of custom genjutsu could you use (make up an example of an affect within your ability i.e no sound)
-How would you set the stage using to capture him and take him out in three moves (three techniques canon and/or customs)

2: You're an Uchiha, with 3 tome and your opponent is a strong genjutsu user, ordinary, and knows how to fight against you; avoiding eye contact dampening your vision, and he has sound genjutsu. You know he has sound release and you want to cast a genjutsu and also prevent him from casting a genjutsu on you. How would you go about this.

-How would you protect yourself against his sound genjutsu
-How would you cast a genjutsu on him using your Sharingan genjutsu

Also tell me how far Adachi has taken you in technique training (not part of the test just need to know)

:| .

 

[Reborn]

What, that's a compliment. I'm sure you can train a descent gen student at this point

 

[Lord of Kaos]

"descent" Sure, let's go with that.

 

[Reborn]

That's more than what you have which is zero. I'd say I gave you a little extra credit u-u

 

[Corazon]

Just makes a post so sensei doesn't have to double post

 

[Reborn]

Right, so what were we doing again?

 

[Corazon]

Lol you gave me another quiz which I answered but you never said anything o.o