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Hey.
Alright, so before I jump into stuff, I'd like to know: Do you have any prior training to Genjutsu? Secondly, what are you most excited about to learn from Genjutsu?
 

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Thanks again for accepting me

Firstly: No I do not have any prior training in Genjutsu

Secondly: Well I have started training in all the other basics but this is not the reason I'm excited to learn Gen, I have been trying to find a teacher for a while but I have been unsuccessful. The main reason I'm excited to learn Gen is the fact that you are able to control what your opponent sees, that is a huge advantage and suits the way I like to battle. Gen gives you the opportunity to buy time when you need it and it even makes your opponent think they have the upper hand in battle when in fact they are being controlled. I personally enjoy Gen and it will be a big part of my battles and I will need it for what I aim to achieve in the RP
 

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Precisely. Genjutsu is a type of "safe jutsu", as you might say. It focuses largely on your opponent's psychological capabilities and also allows you to play on their extent of reasoning. Glad to hear such enthusiasm!

So I now pose several questions to you. First off, one of the most major aspects of Genjutus is Creativity. Thus, I ask of you: why might Creativity be so vital in Genjutsu?
Secondly, how does a Genjutsu in general work? How does it operate to affect an opposing shinobi?
 

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Thanks, I feel Genjutsu is as important as any of the other basics

Why is Creativity so vital to Genjutsu? Since Genjutsu is only limited by our imagination, creativity is essential to tricking your opponent into thinking he isn't under a Genjutsu. Creativity doesn't mean changing the landscape entirely when catching your opponent in a Genjutsu, creativity is creating a situation in the Genjutsu that will benefit you in the actual fight while your opponent is trapped in the Genjutsu, basically tricking him into thinking that he's required to perform a certain counter or action that is actually the opposite of what he should be doing so you gain the upper hand. Even the most simple illusion eg.(making your opponent think you are running around him in an arc) can be very creative because your opponent would turn around to face the clone which exposes his back that your a free to attack.

How does Genjutsu work and affect your opponent? Genjutsu is similar to Ninjutsu because it requires hand seals but that is the only similarity between the 2, while Ninjutsu deals physical damage to your opponent, Genjutsu attacks your opponents brain by disrupting their chakra flow to make them see illusions which they would think is real. The reason your opponent thinks the Genjutsu is real is because it affects their 5 senses so they can't react properly so the illusions that they see causes them to think it is real and therefore causes them pain and suffering. While a lot of Genjutsus require eye contact or seeing your opponent to be able to cast a Genjutsu on them, Sound Genjutsu doesn't require that because your are able to affect you opponent by using their hearing sense to your advantage because even if you aren't able to see them, you can still disturb their chakra flow by using Sound Genjutsu.
 

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Perfect responses! Your keypoint is here:
...creativity is creating a situation in the Genjutsu that will benefit you in the actual fight while your opponent is trapped in the Genjutsu, basically tricking him into thinking that he's required to perform a certain counter or action that is actually the opposite of what he should be doing so you gain the upper hand.
Many times, before we can decide on a proper countermeasure to a Genjutsu, we need to somehow reason that it is a Genjutsu, and the more creative your idea is, the harder it could be for an opponent to actually realize it is a Genjutsu. You can't simply state in battle that you somehow escaped from it without first knowing it is in fact, a Genjutsu. With this, you can then come up with tricks and ideas that place your opponent into a corner however you wish, as said, the only limit is but your own imagination.

Genjutsu does not always require handseals, in fact some only need you to release your chakra and target it at your opponent or in a certan area. But you are indeed correct in stating that it tends to do mental damage (unless, of course, we are speaking of F-Ranks such as Izanagi or Izanami) and focuses on the psychological aspects of an opponent. Whenever using Genjutsu, make sure you state how it affects the five senses because shinobis are able to gather information from all of their senses, so it is vital that you erase any chance of them doing so. Finally, you correct in stating that it interrupts the chakra flow. In fact, you target the enemy's brain (the prosencephalon structure) and the chakra that flows there - the process is carried out by you first releasing your chakra towards the opponent and then directly affecting their chakra system and then messing up their senses.

So, given that you now know how Genjutsu works, name as many ways as you can think of that allow you to escape or counter a Genjutsu.
 

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Well I'm not really sure of all the ways but the ways I do know that will break you out of a Genjutsu are a full body surge, inflicting pain on yourself, having a comrade insert some of his chakra into your body to disrupt the flow of your chakra and flush away the foreign chakra and if you are a Jin, the bijuu will alert you to a Genjutsu and snap you out of it

Can a clone snap you out of a Genjutsu?
 

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Well, a clone is called a "companion", wouldn't it be? Yes, clones act like Bijuus in the sense that they can spike your chakra system and reset it.

You covered mostly everything, but I would like to pose one more question. What is the basic jutsu that releases you from Genjutsus with just one handseal?
 

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I believe it is this jutsu

Rank: C-S
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15-40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user does one hand seal to focus and then proceeds to disturb his chakra flow by forcefully stopping it momentarily and then "spiking" his spiritual energy, unbalancing his chakra. This dispels any genjutsu set upon the user except MS Eye Techniques, Paralysis-like Genjutsu and Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant. The effectiveness of this technique is dependent upon the skill of the user. A Jounin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to C-rank. An S-class ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to B-rank. A Sannin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to A-rank. A Sage rank user can dispel Genjutsu up to S-Rank. The user may use this technique through physical contact on others to dispel them from Genjutsu. The technique can only be used once per turn and the user still needs to fully follow the logic as to why he figured out it was an illusion.

 

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Excellent, so I have one more question for you before we move on to the first technique. What rank jutsus can both Nagashi and Kai dispel up to and what can you do if neither of them can't be used?
 

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Lol the answer for what rank Genjutsu Kai can break is in the jutsu itself O_O however I will answer it, at my current level I would be able to dispel B-Rank Genjutsu and the same goes for Nagashi. If these do not work and obviously following the rules that I must have a valid reason for knowing its a Genjutsu, you can release the Genjutsu by stabbing yourself with a kunai but obviously not where you might stab a vital organ and die instantly, I would perhaps stab my leg(though it will slow down my movements) or my hand
 

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A perfect response! :D So let's start with the first jutsu. Focus your attention to the scenery around us and then transform our surroundings into anything you want.
You must first concentrate on your chakra and then release it out of your body onto me, then deliberately control each of my five senses to get me to see what you want. Make sure you manipulate each of my five senses.
 

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As Ryu stands still pondering what place he could possibly think off that would affect his senseis 5 senses, he suddenly gets an idea :hint:. He channels chakra throughout his body and once he has gathered enough chakra, he releases it from his body and manipulates the chakra to enter into his sensei to manipulate his 5 senses. Ryu makes his sensei think that they are standing on the sand of a beach which is right next to them. His sensei would feel the soft sand under his feet, hear the sounds of the waves moving towards them, smell of the salty water, the taste of the salt in the air and see the wonderful spectacle that is the ocean and the surrounding area
 

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Good job touching on all five senses! Now, there's an important term I'm going to teach you called cause and effect. So, let's say you used a Wind Jutsu to blow away the explosive tag, thus, I can follow up with a prepared fire move to disregard your Wind Jutsu, so that it overcomes it and is sent back at you two times stronger.
By taking the upper hand, you can juggle your opponent around and have them react the way you want to, as we are all forced to make moves and survive in a battle. This is most often used in chess, where it is necessary to be able to predict several moves ahead of the opponent.

Alright, so considering the circumstance and the environment you created, how might you use this against me?
 

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I wasn't sure if you wanted me to use the illusion to my advantage so I just went with it and if I did it wrong then you can explain what you wanted me to do O_O

Well I would use a Katon jutsu and I would do this with the asumption that you would want to take advantage so you would perform a Suiton jutsu because it is strong against Katon and because you would have a huge water source at your disposal(the ocean) but in reality I would actually be using a Doton jutsu to easily counter your Suiton jutsu and head straight for you
 
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Naw, that was absolutely perfect! Now, if you were to utilize this strategy in an actual fight, be sure to be descriptive and reasonable when doing so. A lot of people forget how useful this jutsu actually is.
( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.
Now, turn your attention on the topic of handseals. They're really important in battle but a lot of people miss out on them.
Let's say you had one jutsu that required only one handseal, but your opponent had one that required five.
How would you take advantage of this?
 

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I definitely will be more descriptive because I know it can work against you if you don't describe your moves properly

Well considering he would have to perform 5 hand seals, I would try to get as close as I can before peforming my jutsu as it gives him less time to perform his technique which takes a longer period to perform. I would be much closer too him while using a jutsu which is a lot quicker to perform, he would be vulnerable, which would then cloud his judgment and force him to make a mistake by reacting even second too late, which could cost him his life.
 

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Eh, that's a good tactic, but reread my question.
Let's say you had one jutsu that required only one handseal, but your opponent had one that required five.
How does this affect timing in battle and why is it important?
 

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I'm assuming you mean time frame so I will try to answer it but I wasn't sure if you meant how I would take advantage in an illusion by making him think I'm doing a different hand seal or something :sweat:

Your jutsu would already be heading towards your opponent while he is doing the hand seals so you could probably use a follow up jutsu while he is still in the process of using his jutsu

I'm sorry if this isn't right but I honestly don't understand what exactly you mean by taking advantage of him having to perform more hand seals other than what i did
 

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Naw, that was a good response. ^^ My point here is that if your opponent has five handseals to go through and your jutsu only has one, yours' would be faster to activate, correct? So your jutsu could strike first. It pays a lot to notice things like that during fights. Small attention to important things can really make a huge difference.
So this next jutsu has five handseals.
I want you to focus your chakra into me once more and make it appear that you've dissolved into many petals. Actually, cherry blossom petals... Then, make those cherry blossoms around me and make sure you obscure my vision.
Then describe what purpose this serves in a battle.
 
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