[Discussion] Garp the Coward
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Well here is the thing. Ace is/was suppose to be executed by the law. Sakazuki is not the Law. He serves the Law. I do not believe Akainu killed ace because he was suppose to be beheaded, he killed him because he wanted to. If ace was suppose to just be killed he could have just got wreck faced by Megellan.
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Coward definitely isn't the word you're looking for and you gotta see the bigger picture about if Garp was to try and help Ace. As a hero of the marines, him saving Ace would have made them not only lose massive face, but the pride that Garp takes in his job and the people who look up to him would have ceased. It's an action that would have very well changed the marines over the timeskip I believe. Ace made his decision as a pirate, one that Garp was never about. IMO, Garp had no right to interfere with his job a Marine.
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The law really, the people who were going to execute him worked according to what the law said and they had there chance. Ace escaped and Akainu (who also works according to what the law says) got to him. Garp had no right to get angry as a fellow marine killed him. Garp was just going to let ace get executed before.
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Him getting angry over which marine killed Ace was stupid as he was going to get killed by a Marine anyway
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OP did you make this thread immediately after reading that chapter?
If you let it sink in some more then I'm sure you'll have a change of heart.
If you let it sink in some more then I'm sure you'll have a change of heart.
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He was devastated when Ace died, he let couldn't fight luffy and he would've killed akainu if sengoku didn't stop him, what are you talking about??!
Garp is a Marine.If he did something he wouldn't be a Marine anymore.He wanted to fight Luffy but he just couldn't.
I love him.And he ain't a coward.He was the rival of Roger.Roger thought highly of him and left him Ace afterall.
I love him.And he ain't a coward.He was the rival of Roger.Roger thought highly of him and left him Ace afterall.
Ace is to blame for his own death. Ace is to blame for Whitebeard's Death as well. Ace is to blame for BB's strength right now.
-WB told him not to go after Teach knowing he'd get his ass kicked. He still did. This caused a war.
after all that bloodshed thanks to his selfishness,all he had to do was escape MF. Nope once again he was selfish.
-Marco tells him to ignore Akainu, he falls for taunts like a grade school kid. Gets himself killed. Wastes his brothers, and his entire crew's and friends efforts, lives etc.
I guess he suits his DF, hot headed and doesn't think before he acts.
-WB told him not to go after Teach knowing he'd get his ass kicked. He still did. This caused a war.
after all that bloodshed thanks to his selfishness,all he had to do was escape MF. Nope once again he was selfish.
-Marco tells him to ignore Akainu, he falls for taunts like a grade school kid. Gets himself killed. Wastes his brothers, and his entire crew's and friends efforts, lives etc.
I guess he suits his DF, hot headed and doesn't think before he acts.
lol yea i kinda wonder what he would have done if the execution got carried out. Go after the executioners lol?
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It's not like Garp didn't tell them to not become pirates.
Oh wait, he did, for 10 years and now one of them pays the price and you expect him to throw away his life because Ace is a stubborn ***** who could've ran at two moments to save his life.
Like others said. there is a difference between a clean execution as a penalty and a magma fist through the back.
Luffy said once that the ultimate freedom is to do whatever you want, but that also means the consequences are for you. Therefore Luffy can't be mad at Ace, Garp or Blackbeard. They all lived according to his motto and fulfilled their roles. The only one to blame for Ace's violent death is Akainu.
Besides Garp let himself get punched in the face when Luffy ran up with the key taking a dive. Sengoku even commented on it.
Oh wait, he did, for 10 years and now one of them pays the price and you expect him to throw away his life because Ace is a stubborn ***** who could've ran at two moments to save his life.
Like others said. there is a difference between a clean execution as a penalty and a magma fist through the back.
Luffy said once that the ultimate freedom is to do whatever you want, but that also means the consequences are for you. Therefore Luffy can't be mad at Ace, Garp or Blackbeard. They all lived according to his motto and fulfilled their roles. The only one to blame for Ace's violent death is Akainu.
Besides Garp let himself get punched in the face when Luffy ran up with the key taking a dive. Sengoku even commented on it.
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I love Garp. Not matter what he does or did, I'll love him. The only time Garp wanted to go after Akainu was because he wanted to kill Luffy which wasn't part of the plan. He knew Ace was going to sad die anyways but Luffy wasn't on the menu So it pissed him off
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Garp wants an honored end if necessary for Ace. To be taken by righteous hands of laws and order. Sakazuki is marine, but killing a marine soldier who can't fight against pirates is not anyone's decision to make. Yet Sakazuki killed a marine soldier. The point is, there very few in marines not acknowledging Sakazuki's methods and view of justice, and they'll never agree with. But we respect a character who sticks to his beliefs regardless of what others may think, but it's not for Sakazuki to take Ace's life. Not something Garp wants to see. Because Sakazuki is merciless to both marine and non-marine. Sakazuki's ways will never work, and we don't know how things will end between Sakazuki and Fujitora. It's only a matter of time until perhaps conflict will rise between marine. Some will fight Sakazuki maybe.
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We can't put it all on Garp, he raised Ace and Luffy how he could yet they still made their choice. He's not responsible for Ace's death, Ace is. He was already free when he completely defied Whitebeards last wish and attacked Akainu in anger instead of leaving Marineford with everyone, that wasn't Garp's fault.
See, this where everyone starts to stream line ideology. Yes the two soldiers that were to behead ace served the law, but they were given explicit permission to execute ace. There is a way for things to get done, and their law has a procedure. If the Law wanted Akainu to execute Ace, if any of the higher up wanted ace to be executed by an Admiral or anyone other than those two soldier they would have done so. When the original guards were knocked out any of the higher ups including garp could have executed Ace, both Garp and Sengoku were not but 1 minute away from the execution stand. Its about the principle and the ideology. The portrayal should be that the Law caught Ace and executed him for his wrong doings. Not that X soldier (Admiral, Captian, Vice Admiral, Fleet Admiral, Etc..) caught and executed Ace. He was suppose to be executed in a certain way, that why governments have certain procedures and its usually not okay to execute on sight, unless given that specific order. Notice Issho was suppose to capture Luffy, until his order was changed to specifically bring his head back. Yes Akainu and the Execution soldiers both serve the law, but the soldiers were given EXPLICIT instructions to behead Ace, Akainu was given no such order. But he (Akainu) was not wrong in his actions as his job is to protect the Government and its Ideology. Garp was mad that Ace was killed by Akainu and thats fine that the FATHER in him was upset, but the marine in him did hold him back, cuz tbh with all the commotion that was going on once sengoku got involved he could have decided to fight and possibly kill/seriously injure Akainu.