Gaiden ch 1 mistranslated (Sasu/Sara 12yrs apart)

[YamatoWho]

OrganicDinosaur explaination via NF and her translation of the line:

「…私は…パパと…ものごころついた時から会ったことがない…」

" ...Papa and I.....We've never/haven't met since as far back as I can really remember."

The 物心/ものごころ means like 'ever since I've been aware of things' or like 'since I've been able to understand the things around me'.

= So the meaning is like she personally has no recollection of Papasuke while she was growing up.

^ Going to be the best translation unless TakL shows up to throw his words in.

OD has a thread on NF to ask her about any mistranslations on reddit right now.

 

[Endles Waltz]

This makes the whole photo controversy even more fishy, if he was there till she was a later toddler, how does he not have any photo with Sakura or Sarada even?

It's not wedding pic.if it would make no sense to put a adult pic of herself besides a Teen Sasuke since she has a adult pic.Also Salad wouldn't have questioned their marriage in the first place as she saw all photos

This^

 

[Dannie]

Pray tell

 

[lndra]

OrganicDinosaur explaination via NF and her translation of the line:



^ Going to be the best translation unless TakL shows up to throw his words in.

OD has a thread on NF to ask her about any mistranslations on reddit right now.

Thank you

 

[The Necromancer]

This makes the whole photo controversy even more fishy, if he was there till she was a later toddler, how does he not have any photo with Sakura or Sarada even?



This^

Sakura doesn't have any photos with Sarada. Why is that not fishy? The confirmation bias is real, it seems.

 

[Chie]

People usually remember things since they were 4 years of age. And in rare instances when they were 3. (Sasuke himself actually remembers an 8 yr old Itachi coming home when he himself is a 3 yr old boy playing with toy dinosaurs).

This just means that he's been gone for at least 9 years since Salad is 12 now. That's not any better and still the longest anyone has been absent from family members in this manga w/o adequate reason. And I say w/o adequate reason since people do not abhor Sasuke and he chose to leave of his own accord. No one forced him to do so. Unless Kishimoto goes back on saying that Sasuke left because he felt awkward in Konoha/to find out Kaguya's secrets and comes up with a retcon which would absolve Sasuke from the lack of communication (in an age of smart phones/laptops/web chats and Sasuke having the ability to teleport into Konoha at any time), I guess it'll stay that way.

In fact, I can't think of a single adequate excuse Kishimoto can come up with to make up for this absence. I just see Sasuke remaining an inadequate father for most of his kid's life for plot purposes. And Kisimoto will obviously give a reason, but no matter how bad it is SS/Sasuke/Sakura fans will embrace it while the rest of the fandom will roll their eyes or just not bother with it.

 

[Shruikan]

So *********** with its as far as I can remember is the most accurate one

 

[lndra]

So *********** with its as far as I can remember is the most accurate one

Yamato just gave OD's translation

 

[Shruikan]

Yamato just gave OD's translation

Yeah I know but it was kinda similar to the MS translation

Viz is coming out with the official one today.Hopefully iNoto posts it.Theres also many other things it needs to clear up

 

[Made in Heaven]

Still pretty bad tbh

 

[Power Bottom]

It's a collection. They're in separate sections of the frame. You've never seen two pictures of people next to each other that aren't the same photograph?



Dude's been gone for more than a decade. You keep and use all the pictures you have. It's not like they have extras lying around.

Those 2/3 photographs are probably the only ones of Sasuke that exist. Photos aren't so common in this timeline. At least not as common as in the real world.

In the last people took pictures of naruto with a digital camera lol. This is even more advance now. I am pretty sure photos are common.

 

[lndra]

Yeah I know but it was kinda similar to the MS translation

Viz is coming out with the official one today.Hopefully iNoto posts it.Theres also many other things it needs to clear up

Japanese raws are usually VIZ aren't they? We just wait for a real Japanese company to translate them.

 

[YamatoWho]

Yeah I know but it was kinda similar to the MS translation

Viz is coming out with the official one today.Hopefully iNoto posts it.Theres also many other things it needs to clear up

OD always says to go with MS over MP. She complained about MP getting that part wrong ever since they were the first to release lol

 

[Shruikan]

Japanese raws are usually VIZ aren't they? We just wait for a real Japanese company to translate them.

No.Viz just translates the Raws for English readers

 

[The Necromancer]

In the last people took pictures of naruto with a digital camera lol. This is eve more advance now. I am preety sure photos are common.

I haven't seen the last, so i can't comment on that one, but my point is, Sasuke has been gone for a long, long time, and it's not like they took hundreds of photos of Sasuke and Sakura together with Sarada.

So you use what you have. That just happens to be one of the pictures Sakura has, so she framed it, along side a more recent photo of herself and two pictures of a growing Sarada. Not that uncommon.

People are acting as if Sakura is trying to cover up some major scandal, or that she's somehow stalking Sasuke by covering part of his photo with her, when in reality it's nothing more than cropping a photo. It could have been a photo of Sasuke and Juugo for all she cared, and it would have been cropped just the same.

 

[Shruikan]

OD always says to go with MS over MP. She complained about MP getting that part wrong ever since they were the first to release lol

I am getting contradicting versions.Someone on the SS FC said MP is closer to the Raws and MS is adding words but yeah MS is correct at the Baby part version

 

[lndra]

No.Viz just translates the Raws for English readers

That's what I meant

 

[YamatoWho]

I am getting contradicting versions.Someone on the SS FC said MP is closer to the Raws and MS is adding words but yeah MS is correct at the Baby part version

Both MS and MP got the Sakura/Sarada feelings thing wrong according to OD. MS added extra words while MP missed it entirely.

Quote from OD on NF again:

「…パパとは気持ちがちゃんとつながってるから大丈夫！」
"...It will be okay because our/your feelings are surely connected to Papa!"

= There's not really a specified subject. But it can be refer to either both of them or Sarada herself.

 

[Power Bottom]

I haven't seen the last, so i can't comment on that one, but my point is, Sasuke has been gone for a long, long time, and it's not like they took hundreds of photos of Sasuke and Sakura together with Sarada.

So you use what you have. That just happens to be one of the pictures Sakura has, so she framed it, along side a more recent photo of herself and two pictures of a growing Sarada. Not that uncommon.

People are acting as if Sakura is trying to cover up some major scandal, or that she's somehow stalking Sasuke by covering part of his photo with her, when in reality it's nothing more than cropping a photo. It could have been a photo of Sasuke and Juugo for all she cared, and it would have been cropped just the same.

This is possible but why wouldn't she put her wedding pic in the middle. That's a pic she was actually with sasuke and happy. It just seems weird imo

 

[Made in Heaven]

People usually remember things since they were 4 years of age. And in rare instances when they were 3. (Sasuke himself actually remembers an 8 yr old Itachi coming home when he himself is a 3 yr old boy playing with toy dinosaurs).

This just means that he's been gone for at least 9 years since Salad is 12 now. That's not any better and still the longest anyone has been absent from family members in this manga w/o adequate reason. And I say w/o adequate reason since people do not abhor Sasuke and he chose to leave of his own accord. No one forced him to do so. Unless Kishimoto goes back on saying that Sasuke left because he felt awkward in Konoha/to find out Kaguya's secrets and comes up with a retcon which would absolve Sasuke from the lack of communication (in an age of smart phones/laptops/web chats and Sasuke having the ability to teleport into Konoha at any time), I guess it'll stay that way.

In fact, I can't think of a single adequate excuse Kishimoto can come up with to make up for this absence. I just see Sasuke remaining an inadequate father for most of his kid's life for plot purposes. And Kisimoto will obviously give a reason, but no matter how bad it is SS/Sasuke/Sakura fans will embrace it while the rest of the fandom will roll their eyes or just not bother with it.

That just makes things worse than actually possible . It would at least be understandable if this was before the technology and Sasuke gaining S/T abilities, but now it's just ridiculous.