Gai vs Third Raikage

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Doesn't matter his body was still in contact(Similar to the 3rd Raikage) so my statement still remains if he was Edo like the 3rd Raikage he would have gotten right back up.

Irrelevant. His body was still shredded to the point where he couldn't move. Raikage tanked FRS with nothing but superficial damage. You trying to equate the two scenarios makes zero sense, especially since KCM Naruto>Base Naruto, and Complete FRS>Half Power FRS.

Wait so the FRS that was used on the Raikage was senjutsu impowered how when it was used by KM Naruto? KM Naruto rasengans showed no superior damage/destructive capabilites to none KM.
If you can actually prove this assertion, it'd be nice. Complete FRS>Half Power FRS. Kurama enhanced FRS>>>Normal FRS. Unless we are denying that Kurama's chakra makes jutsu stronger, which is already a manga fact, and been a manga fact since VoTE in Part 1.

So wait fodders helping her jutsu is more powerful than Gaara Kankuro and Darui plus her wind tech? Stop.
Yup, because the jutsu she herself used isn't shit compared to her Cast Net, let alone her cast net plus help. You are going to need to get real feats besides listing characters as a reason why that combined attack was stronger than Cast Net.

V2 Susanoo tanked that attack with ease. Ay and Onoki damaged Madara's V2 Susanoo. FRS>Ay and Onoki's attack. Raiakge took FRS w/o his Raiton Armor, most of his durability comes from his body, meaning Raikage>V2 Susanoo in durability.

Bold is simply you not having a counter just saying.
No need to counter something that makes no sense. It's like telling me to counter 2+2=5. Lol.
 

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Irrelevant. His body was still shredded to the point where he couldn't move. Raikage tanked FRS with nothing but superficial damage. You trying to equate the two scenarios makes zero sense, especially since KCM Naruto>Base Naruto, and Complete FRS>Half Power FRS.

If you can actually prove this assertion, it'd be nice. Complete FRS>Half Power FRS. Kurama enhanced FRS>>>Normal FRS. Unless we are denying that Kurama's chakra makes jutsu stronger, which is already a manga fact, and been a manga fact since VoTE in Part 1.

V2 Susanoo tanked that attack with ease. Ay and Onoki damaged Madara's V2 Susanoo. FRS>Ay and Onoki's attack. Raiakge took FRS w/o his Raiton Armor, most of his durability comes from his body, meaning Raikage>V2 Susanoo in durability.


No need to counter something that makes no sense. It's like telling me to counter 2+2=5. Lol.
His body wasn't shredded at all they wind needles just punctured his cells simple. He was Edo if he was alive the little damage that he took would of resulted in his cells being destroyed thus him failing to fight back people constantly overlook this fact. Do you have a scan saying the rasenshuriken he used on Kakuzu was 50% of it's true power? KM Naruto rasengans or rasenshurikens have shown no superior damage or durability as i've just stated above. Example counter for bold(Kurama chakra only makes the jutsu stronger when it's purposely put inside of it seeing as Naruto had to take the time out and add Senjutsu chakra to his tbb instead of it already consisting of it when his SM was already activated) He purposely put Kurama chakra in it at vote which is the reason it turned purple do to his normal chakra(Blue) and Kurama chakra(Red) mixed. FRS also>The attack that cut the 3rd Raikage pre ration armor. Raikage took FRS pre ration armor?.( ).Nope it was clearly blown off.( ).

Also next time you quote me please do it right sir.
 

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His body wasn't shredded at all they wind needles just punctured his cells simple. He was Edo if he was alive the little damage that he took would of resulted in his cells being destroyed thus him failing to fight back people constantly overlook this fact.
Yeah, not the outside, the inside. If the inside wasn't shredded, he would've gotten up right there, so that doesn't change my point. The damage he took>>>>damage Raikage took. You are basing it off their bodies being intact, even though that comparison makes zero sense.

Do you have a scan saying the rasenshuriken he used on Kakuzu was 50% of it's true power? KM Naruto rasengans or rasenshurikens have shown no superior damage or durability as i've just stated above.


"It's only at half strength"

You are going to need to prove your claims. FRS didn't even kill Kakuzu, yet the far more durable Raikage was temporarily downed by it, and lost his Raiton Armor in the process. Claiming 50% Base Naruto FRS=KCM FRS makes zero sense.

Example counter for bold(Kurama chakra only makes the jutsu stronger when it's purposely put inside of it seeing as Naruto had to take the time out and add Senjutsu chakra to his tbb instead of it already consisting of it when his SM was already activated) He purposely put Kurama chakra in it at vote which is the reason it turned purple do to his normal chakra(Blue) and Kurama chakra(Red) mixed.
None of this proves that KCM doesn't increase Naruto's power. Senjutsu=/=Kurama's chakra, not to mention Naruto saying he'll add Senjutsu to the Bijuu Dama only means he'll use a Senjutsu Bijuu Dama. Did he have to purposely put Senjutsu in any of his attacks when using normal Sage Mode? Nope. So that little made up assertion of yours goes flying out the window.


FRS also>The attack that cut the 3rd Raikage pre ration armor.
Irrelevant. My comparison doesn't need this to be false for it to be correct.

Raikage took FRS pre ration armor?.(x).Nope it was clearly blown off.(x).
Never said he did.
 

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Yeah, not the outside, the inside. If the inside wasn't shredded, he would've gotten up right there, so that doesn't change my point. The damage he took>>>>damage Raikage took. You are basing it off their bodies being intact, even though that comparison makes zero sense.
My point the rasenshuriken he did on the 3rd gave him some damage therefore the wind needles from the Rasenshuriken would have ruined his cells just like they did Kakuzu. Im basing this off the fact that he was an Edo. If Kakuzu was edo what would have stopped him from getting back up his body was barely damaged edo's insides consist of dust and paper flakes. So the feat that the Raikage did isn't that impressive because he was an Edo simple. Also you completely ignored my argument but ok.





"It's only at half strength"

You are going to need to prove your claims. FRS didn't even kill Kakuzu, yet the far more durable Raikage was temporarily downed by it, and lost his Raiton Armor in the process. Claiming 50% Base Naruto FRS=KCM FRS makes zero sense.
Point proven; But i was saying that KM rasenshuriken is no greater to base Naruto rasenshuriken complete ofc.


None of this proves that KCM doesn't increase Naruto's power. Senjutsu=/=Kurama's chakra, not to mention Naruto saying he'll add Senjutsu to the Bijuu Dama only means he'll use a Senjutsu Bijuu Dama. Did he have to purposely put Senjutsu in any of his attacks when using normal Sage Mode? Nope. So that little made up assertion of yours goes flying out the window.



Irrelevant. My comparison doesn't need this to be false for it to be correct.


Never said he did.
Actually it does. Naruto was already in BSM so why would he even have to add Nature energy to any of his techs? Putting any in it is meaningless going by your logic since just because your in a certain form of chakra/sm it will automatically be stronger. No it isn't once again your ignoring an argument. You compared Ei and Oonoki punch that went through a skeleton Susanoo to FRS so why can't i compare Temari and fodders wind attacks that went through base 3rd Raikage to a rasenshuriken when my default argument was skeleton susanoo is equal or greater than the 3rd Raikage base which that claim still stands.
 
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