Gai vs. Amaterasu

[shelke]

Biju power chkara>>>Normal chakra

Their are different strengths of chakra, better quality mean sou rable to pull off jutsu with less chakra consumption because of the power of your chakra.

If he cant see the muscles of the opponent then he can't predict. I fail to understand what your failing to grasp here. If you knew your stuff on the sharingan you would know that the only way they can possibly predict the next move is through muscle movement.


Last point?? i wasnt talking in riddles, Sasuke had his sharingan activated throughout the entire Kage fight

Doesn't matter. Bijuu Chakra is about Quantity here. Come on man? It's clear as day what she meant.

Not sure how else I should clarify this. All scans are rather explicit on this.

So?

 

[TheTailedSage]

Doesn't matter. Bijuu Chakra is about Quantity here. Come on man? It's clear as day what she meant.

Not sure how else I should clarify this. All scans are rather explicit on this.

So?

You implied that the quality of his chakra increased hence why i brought it up.

None of your links work and i have already proved how gates will hit sasuke and evade Amatarasu. If there is still something you dont understand then say so.

 

[Touken]

^ And I am saying that he was going to elude MS's line-of-sight which would have countered both Amaterasu and Genjutsu.

Striking Speed and Foot Speed are not same. Even in this regard his Reflex Speed shouldn't be at Ae's level - not even close:

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- Gai is outclassed on both accounts. I doubt it, as Obito was reacting and turning on his Intangibility almost to all of attacks. Unless you believe that gated Gai is faster than KCM and BM Naruto, which cannot be true.

As I said, he saw and acknowledged Amaterasu coming and still couldn't react in time:



Expecting or not expecting it, he saw it coming. Let's not deny this.

He moved after Sasuke used Amaterasu, meaning he wasn't expecting Amaterasu. If he was either expecting Genjutsu or Amaterasu then he would have been constantly on the move as you can't cast Genjutsu on someone you can't see and you can't cast Amaterasu on someone you can't follow.

Doesn't need to have his reflexes on the level of Ay. Bee in BM, which is considerably slower than when he's in his human form, managed to move a tentacle after Amaterasu was cast. If Bee managed that then Gai in Gates should definitely be able to use Morning Peacock to counter Sasuke's Amaterasu.

 

[shelke]

He moved after Sasuke used Amaterasu, meaning he wasn't expecting Amaterasu. If he was either expecting Genjutsu or Amaterasu then he would have been constantly on the move as you can't cast Genjutsu on someone you can't see and you can't cast Amaterasu on someone you can't follow.

Doesn't need to have his reflexes on the level of Ay. Bee in BM, which is considerably slower than when he's in his human form, managed to move a tentacle after Amaterasu was cast. If Bee managed that then Gai in Gates should definitely be able to use Morning Peacock to counter Sasuke's Amaterasu.

Spawn point formation of an out-of-focus vision. Sasuke couldn't even grab a glass earlier after he left the tentacle with Obito.

Sasuke focused a LOT of flames on Hachibi there and it was his first time using Amaterasu - the flames are almost Bijuu Sized. Hence the lapse in usage. You cannot use this as an example for all times.

 

[slimreaper]

He bounces off the air to hit gaara now if thats not fast movement then i dont know what the frick you call fast. And considering that was 1 tail naruto and Sasuke struggled to take naruto out, i have no idea what your on about or what it has to do with this. 1 tail naruto isn't any where near 5 gates level of speed.

He is BOUNCING off air and before he gave the final blow he was only in 4 gates

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EMS has not been shown to increase prediction ability, futhermore MS struggled to keep up with Bee kenjutsu so comparing Gates to his sharingan is laughable.

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scans to suggest the sharingan can't follow 5 gates movement?


sasuke had no trouble reading 1 tailed naruto's movements

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its when the chakra its self moved that sasuke couldn't follow.


and lee's movement doesn't match this

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its foolish that you believe that part 1 lee can match this. And its was three tomoe that sasuke was using on bee

You seem to think 5th gate lee is on the raikage's level in speed, and im here to tell you that he isn't even close.

 

[shelke]

You implied that the quality of his chakra increased hence why i brought it up.

None of your links work and i have already proved how gates will hit sasuke and evade Amatarasu. If there is still something you dont understand then say so.

No, it was about quantity:

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Karin thinks something 'Big' is coming -

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His Chakra reserves are still rising -

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Here they are 'Growing' to Bijuu level -

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- Just for V2 to dodge Amaterasu.

It was never about quality here, but quantity.

All those scans are working now:

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Bee sweating at Sasuke's speed Spike -

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Upper Hand in one-handed Sword Battle -

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Sasuke reacting and countering just fine:

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- His Sharingan is not on here.
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- His Sharingan did see through the Sword attack, but as he himself was injured, his body couldn't respond properly. Even then, he just received a tiny cut -

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As for the stabs:

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- He didn't know Bee could cancel it out with his own Raiton. That gave Bee an opening after deflecting his sword back.

Even during this time, Sasuke was quick enough to avoid any fatal attacks by moving Raiton through his own body -

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Sasuke was keeping up with Bee just fine, even without Sharingan in the first panel and had a vast upper hand in single-sword combat. Had it not been for his 'severe injuries' and Raiton attack deflecting his back, he never would have gotten stabbed.

 

[VolatileSoul]

I love how people are simply ignoring my post. Ay could dodge because he could evade Sasuke's line of sight. Sasuke could not see him. Current Sasuke can now follow speeds that make that seem like standing still. Even if we only consider this to be MS Sasuke, It took Ay's maximum speed to evade Amaterasu, and Ay was the fastest shinobi at the time. Gai who is slower simply cannot do it, unless the eighth gate gives him speed that is at least comparable to max speed Ay.

 

[shelke]

I love how people are simply ignoring my post. Ay could dodge because he could evade Sasuke's line of sight. Sasuke could not see him. Current Sasuke can now follow speeds that make that seem like standing still. Even if we only consider this to be MS Sasuke, It took Ay's maximum speed to evade Amaterasu, and Ay was the fastest shinobi at the time. Gai who is slower simply cannot do it, unless the eighth gate gives him speed that is at least comparable to max speed Ay.

They are still stuck at basics. Let's get those out of the way.

 

[Touken]

Spawn point formation of an out-of-focus vision. Sasuke couldn't even grab a glass earlier after he left the tentacle with Obito.

Sasuke focused a LOT of flames on Hachibi there and it was his first time using Amaterasu - the flames are almost Bijuu Sized. Hence the lapse in usage. You cannot use this as an example for all times.

Well then it's good that he doesn't have to use his hands to use Amaterasu. All he has to do is look at his target which is exactly what he did. There's literally nothing indicating he missed his target.

So that somehow made Amaterasu slower?

 

[shelke]

^ Are you being funny? He couldn't grab a glass and knocked it over because his vision was 'out of focus'.

Because more Flames were conjured.

 

[~Sky~]

It'd be hard to hit Gai with Amaterasu if he's on the move, since he moves rather fast. But straight up dodging it may be a bit of a stretch.

Plus, when fighting EMS Sasuke, one must worry about much much more than regular Amaterasu. Sasuke's eyes were able to track Juubito, Enton is much more dangerous for Gai. I know no one brought up Sasuke, just wanted to say that. ;_;

Itachi using Amaterasu at Gai would probably be more of a drawback for Itachi than anything.

 

[Touken]

^ Are you being funny? He couldn't grab a glass and knocked it over because his vision was 'out of focus'.

Trust me, I'm not being funny. He doesn't have to use his hands to use Amaterasu, his enemy was literally a metre away and his enemy is also much, much bigger than a glass.

Because more Flames were conjured.

Still doesn't make it slower. It doesn't change the fact that Amaterasu still spawns on the target. More flames being produced means more build-up of chakra but that doesn't affect the speed of Amaterasu in any way.

 

[shelke]

Trust me, I'm not being funny. He doesn't have to use his hands to use Amaterasu, his enemy was literally a metre away and his enemy is also much, much bigger than a glass.


Still doesn't make it slower. It doesn't change the fact that Amaterasu still spawns on the target. More flames being produced means more build-up of chakra but that doesn't affect the speed of Amaterasu in any way.

Which is why the spawn point fell short.

First time usage of a massive Amaterasu - other times, it was literally instant? You are using that one time to make a point here? You know it, I know it, Gai isn't V2 Ae or even V1 Ae.

 

[Touken]

Which is why the spawn point fell short.

First time usage of a massive Amaterasu - other times, it was literally instant? You are using that one time to make a point here? You know it, I know it, Gai isn't V2 Ae or even V1 Ae.

Considering this is getting us nowhere, lemme say that I'm absolutely positive he can dodge Amaterasu with foot speed alone in Gates. JM Madara was having serious problems keeping up with him [

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[paratise]

According to last chapter, Gai laughs at Amaterasu.

 

[xcoyote]

Lel amaterasu.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

Considering this is getting us nowhere, lemme say that I'm absolutely positive he can dodge Amaterasu with foot speed alone in Gates. JM Madara was having serious problems keeping up with him [

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what blasphemy is this he owned guy low diff

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he even cut hirudora in half like a boss

 

[Uchihareborn207]

According to last chapter, Gai laughs at Amaterasu.

Guy fanboys seem to be more dumb than he is .

 

[TheTailedSage]

Which is why the spawn point fell short.

First time usage of a massive Amaterasu - other times, it was literally instant? You are using that one time to make a point here? You know it, I know it, Gai isn't V2 Ae or even V1 Ae.

Oh would you look at that, Gai just shat on all logic against Gai

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[paratise]

Bumhurt Uchiha fanboys.